uziq
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

we have over 330 million people.  It's hard, man.
what does that have to do with anything?
DesertFox-
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

we have over 330 million people.  It's hard, man.
Not to mention all the guns.
SuperJail Warden
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Managing so many people is hard. There are bound to be bad results in many ways.

Kind of a bullshit argument though once you bring up our federal system. The country is divided into 50 smaller administration zones which are supposed to be able to provide better local results than the government in Washington. In reality, the states often make things worse for people.
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uziq
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the size of your population is irrelevant. there is such a thing as proportion or relative measurement. it has nothing to do with how your country is governed or ruled, either, let alone 'people management'. other liberal democracies do not have this level of gun crime, nor the seeming notoriety and media firestorming around the issue. the federal arrangement just makes the legal status of gun ownership and licensing a bureaucratic nightmare. it doesn't encourage actual violence.
DesertFox-
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Managing so many people is hard. There are bound to be bad results in many ways.

Kind of a bullshit argument though once you bring up our federal system. The country is divided into 50 smaller administration zones which are supposed to be able to provide better local results than the government in Washington. In reality, the states often make things worse for people.
You see the snarky bullshit comments every time there is a shooting of "Well, look at Chicago, that's a gun-free zone, HUEHUEHUE LIBERALS!" which just fails to recognize the stark contrast between the laws Illinois and Cook County have made and the fact that you can jump over the border to Illinois or Indiana and get a gun in an hour (to a lesser extent, the same goes for fireworks). That and the "2nd Amendment was made for us to overthrow the tyrannical government!" argument that has been repeated so much that the lie has become reality have really made rational arguments, or even suggesting reasonable means to limit access to firearms will be met with derision or being called a Nazi.
SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

the size of your population is irrelevant. there is such a thing as proportion or relative measurement. it has nothing to do with how your country is governed or ruled, either, let alone 'people management'. other liberal democracies do not have this level of gun crime, nor the seeming notoriety and media firestorming around the issue. the federal arrangement just makes the legal status of gun ownership and licensing a bureaucratic nightmare. it doesn't encourage actual violence.
When I was talking about the problem of federalism, I was speaking about it generally and not in relation to gun violence. I don't care for the federalist system.

Gun violence is pretty much an engrained part of our culture now that is divorced from law or government at this point.

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Jay
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uziq wrote:

the size of your population is irrelevant. there is such a thing as proportion or relative measurement. it has nothing to do with how your country is governed or ruled, either, let alone 'people management'. other liberal democracies do not have this level of gun crime, nor the seeming notoriety and media firestorming around the issue. the federal arrangement just makes the legal status of gun ownership and licensing a bureaucratic nightmare. it doesn't encourage actual violence.
How do you propose we get rid of guns? House to house searches? We do such a good job stopping the importation of drugs...
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uziq
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why use the quote tool if you are going to then immediately misattribute what someone is saying? you just quoted a short and pithy post and made out i told you to get rid of all of your guns. where in those 4 lines was that sentiment?
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War Man wrote:

Of course guns don't kill people, it's the bullet/wound that kills people.
Toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast.
Jay
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Haters gonna hate hate hate hate

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SuperJail Warden
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At least 10 killed in a college in California. My younger sister in college now. It makes me feel sick thinking that stuff like this could happen to her.
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Ty
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15 dead in a college shooting in Oregon. Just another day in the land of the free.
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coke
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

At least 10 killed in a college in California. My younger sister in college now. It makes me feel sick thinking that stuff like this could happen to her.

Ty wrote:

15 dead in a college shooting in Oregon. Just another day in the land of the free.
I've read 10 in Oregon so there is some facts in there somewhere.
RTHKI
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bbc said at least 20 wounded..so more could have died. another place said 2 died en route to the hospital.

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coke
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RTHKI wrote:

bbc said at least 20 wounded..so more could have died. another place said 2 died en route to the hospital.
It was more the discrepancy in States that was confusing.
SuperJail Warden
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Guy posted to 4chan night before.
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coke
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Guy posted to 4chan night before.
http://i.imgur.com/F90JrJW.jpg
What a fucking shitlord.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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yea i was going off of tys post
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RTHKI
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4chan is a terrible place
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SuperJail Warden
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coke wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

bbc said at least 20 wounded..so more could have died. another place said 2 died en route to the hospital.
It was more the discrepancy in States that was confusing.
CNN.com said California at first. They probably reported on it while it was happening and got the state wrong in a rush of information.
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DesertFox-
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coke wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

At least 10 killed in a college in California. My younger sister in college now. It makes me feel sick thinking that stuff like this could happen to her.

Ty wrote:

15 dead in a college shooting in Oregon. Just another day in the land of the free.
I've read 10 in Oregon so there is some facts in there somewhere.
It's also the first day marijuana is legal there. Clearly it's a pot-crazed maniac.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
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I understand this is 2015's 45th school shooting in the US.
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SuperJail Warden
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DesertFox- wrote:

coke wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

At least 10 killed in a college in California. My younger sister in college now. It makes me feel sick thinking that stuff like this could happen to her.

Ty wrote:

15 dead in a college shooting in Oregon. Just another day in the land of the free.
I've read 10 in Oregon so there is some facts in there somewhere.
It's also the first day marijuana is legal there. Clearly it's a pot-crazed maniac.
You know some stoner skipped class to smoke and inadvertently saved their life.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg

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