1.2 Killed infantry combat

2006-02-17 11:55:35

#1

armin: Member; +0|7187| Bosnia & Herzegovina

There was a time when I was a true tank person... then I found out that infantry combat is much more fun and challenging... Then I installed Patch 1.2

1. You can't work as a true medic now, by the time you prone to revive, you're dead.
2. You can't move anywhere because claymore are everywhere.
3. You'll porbably get sniped with a PKM if you reach an enemy flag.
4. When you spawn, an enemy grenade will kill you, tossed from across the map.
5. Tanks are now unchallenged by airplanes and helicopters... mmmm tank people
6. If the get into an aircraft or helicopter, you'll probably get sniped right away by the M90... From the other side of the map.

So, I'd like to thank the geniouses at EA for supporting the tank personing community, It really means a lot.

Can't wait to start spawn raping with the M1A2 at Karkand... again.

2006-02-17 11:58:53

#2

slidero: points; +31|7207

Yeah they made infantry, helis, and jets worse which leaves armor(tanks pretty much) to dominate. On karkand/mash/sharqi it's fairly easy to get at least 20 kills without dying as long as you play pretty conservative and have supply crates.

Last edited by slidero (2006-02-17 12:02:05)

2006-02-17 11:59:20

#3

DUFFKING: Insert witty comment here; +3|7189|Brixham, UK

Meanwhile, i'll just keep playing and enjoying myself. I don't give a shit about these changes, it presents a new challenge for me to try. I just adapt to how I need to play to survive now. I already never go prone to revive - crouching does the job.

Here's a tip about claymores - rather than run blindly down alleyways, try looking for them first. People only put claymores in places lots of people go. You should always expect a claymore in busy areas.

Uhm.... 3 and 6?

2006-02-17 11:59:43

#4

theDude5B: Cool member; +805|7182

right on brother!

when you go a medic i think the age of the class must go up by about 40 years. it is as if you are an 80 year old the way you move from prone to standing.

also there is a glitch which when you press aim, it will take you back out of aim straight away, so you have to press it again.

2006-02-17 12:03:43

#5

slidero: points; +31|7207

DUFFKING wrote:
Meanwhile, i'll just keep playing and enjoying myself. I don't give a shit about these changes, it presents a new challenge for me to try. I just adapt to how I need to play to survive now. I already never go prone to revive - crouching does the job.

Here's a tip about claymores - rather than run blindly down alleyways, try looking for them first. People only put claymores in places lots of people go. You should always expect a claymore in busy areas.

Uhm.... 3 and 6?

Reviving while crouched doesn't work most of the time, while going prone rarely fails.

2006-02-17 12:04:34

#6

DUFFKING: Insert witty comment here; +3|7189|Brixham, UK

Works fine for me Slidero, I find that as long as I aim for the chest, you should be fine. Heck, I sometimes revive whilst standing.

2006-02-17 12:08:06

#7

PV-Provo: Member; +-1|7102|'Nam, England

See what ya mean, except 4 and 6. Because you can't jump and throw grenades like you used to surely grenades fall shorter now - so why does 1.2 get you grenaded from across the map? and the m90 sniping a chopper pilot? thats nothing new man, that's been there from the start!

2006-02-17 12:08:25

#8

General_CoLin_Tassi: Member; +-2|7131|England, UK

this patch needs re-patching and quick.

2006-02-17 12:10:04

#9

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|7096|NT, like Mick Dundee

Heh, I love snipers... easy knife targets

PKM is too accurate, MG36 should be the hyper accurate one...

You can still throw medic bags as far/further, they increased the throwing distance on them too...

YOU SHOULD'NT BE REVIVING PEOPLE IN COMBAT/DANGEROUS AREAS, IT PISSES THEM OF TO BE REVIVED THEN KILLED.... God damned point whores...

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2006-02-17 12:10:46

#10

thurdawg: Member; +0|7171

I've never had a problem reviving when kneeling. You are only standing still for a second and not as easy of a target.

Although, if there's gunfire coming from everywhere you'll probably want to do your teammate a favor and NOT revive him in the first place. You'll probably just get both of you killed (again.)

2006-02-17 12:11:42

#11

uk.solidsnake: Member; +3|7139|England, UK

I have never ever proned to revive, unless I was already in prone mode and someone died next to me. I run-crouch-revive-run and I rarely ever miss revives.

The medic is just as good as ever with the patch, the fixed SA80 kicks major ass, and the G36E is still awesome. Coupled with the fact everyone has the stamina and jumping capacities of an 80 year old woman, if I see you down my SA80 scope, you're fucked.

2006-02-17 12:12:12

#12

Mason4Assassin444: retired; +552|7093|USA

Im having no troubles. Keep it the way it is. And check me. I am a GroundPounder. I blew 3 tanks today with c4....come against me in Karkand. I'll get you. Whatever patch they put on. Ill get you.

2006-02-17 12:13:28

#13

mjw: The All Rounder; +22|7190|Rotherham, England

duffking is right, medics dont have to go prone to revive as long as you aim for the chest region of the person your trying to revive.
To be honest i think that patch 1.2 improved infrantry combat. For example:
1.sniping is now actually worth doing and provides a service to the team effort.
2. the inaccurate weapons have now been fixed (l85, g3, m95, pkm)
3. people can no longer bunny hop and shoot at the same time therefore making it much more difficult for GL whores who spoil gamepleay.
4. jets and helo's are now not invincible to aa rockets and now have to defend themselves rather than just raping infrantry all the time.

And as for you saying that you can snipe with the PKM, come into a server with me and you take a pkm and i'll take a l96a1 and then we'll see how good the pkm is at sniping.

2006-02-17 12:16:10

#14

Raevin: Member; +0|7081

armin wrote:
There was a time when I was a true tank person... then I found out that infantry combat is much more fun and challenging... Then I installed Patch 1.2

1. You can't work as a true medic now, by the time you prone to revive, you're dead.
2. You can't move anywhere because claymore are everywhere.
3. You'll porbably get sniped with a PKM if you reach an enemy flag.
4. When you spawn, an enemy grenade will kill you, tossed from across the map.
5. Tanks are now unchallenged by airplanes and helicopters... mmmm tank people
6. If the get into an aircraft or helicopter, you'll probably get sniped right away by the M90... From the other side of the map.

1) You should, if at all possible, remove the enemy threat before reviving. Nothing is more irritating than to get killed by an MG (or, w/e) then be revived by a medic that didn't shoot the MG'er and then be killed by the MG'er then revived, killed, revived, and so forth. For the love of God! Let me die in peace and stop destroying what K/D ratio I have for that game! Or, take a couple of seconds and eliminate the threat first.

2) This is where teamwork comes into play...if you're not on a squad, join one. The squad leader should never be the first one up a ladder or into an alley, just in case there's a claymore...especially if no medic is around. That way, if you die, you can respawn on your squad leader and continue on now that the claymore has been neutralized.

3) Ensure the area is secure before attempting to capture the objective. Don't just blindly run into a CP.

4) If possible, pick a new spawn...if not, just hope for the best and run your a$$ off as soon as you spawn.

5) Two or three decent AT soldiers can eliminate most tanks within a matter of seconds.

6) C'mon...it's not THAT bad. I've had my AA sights on choppers that were just out of range, but, I had a clear view of.

2006-02-17 12:22:59

#15

Mantlsman: Member; +1|7077

medic is the best and easiest, i got between 44 and 88 on medic at karkand, call me a stat whore but i revive when i feel I have a chance and the man im reviving has a chance.

2006-02-17 12:33:49

#16

Noriveia: Member; +0|7198

Let me die in peace and stop destroying what K/D ratio I have for that game!????

What are you talking about i hear this alot ! do people not know that being killed does NOT COUNT AS A DEATH ---RESPAWNING ON A SPAWN POINT COUNTS AS A DEATH! sooo...

A medic keeps reviving you.. you do NOT get DEATHS unless you respawn on a spawn point
-or-
you get shot and can't respawn before round resets.. you dont get a death

Being a sniper who watchs his death count very carefull i know this for sure.

SO IF A MEDIC KEEPS REVIVING YOU AND YOU KEEP GETTING SHOT SOOO WHAT! MAYBE YOU'LL GET AWAY THE THIRD TIME AND AVOID GETTING A DEATH ALL TOGETHER.

PS I AM NOT A MEDIC BUT I SURE DO ENJOY HAVING EM AROUND!!

2006-02-17 12:39:21

#17

AlbertWesker[RE]: Not Human Anymore; +144|7075|Seattle, WA

God thank you, I just registered JUST to say that, no death unless you respawn. , keep fighting!!!

2006-02-17 13:15:25

#18

Esker: Member; +1|7158

Is it me or have they shortened the active distance for the shock paddles?

2006-02-17 13:21:52

#19

Poofy: Member; +0|7104|Pennsylvania

My only complaint is the PKM be somewhat overpowered in all circumstances. Other than that, I enjoy the patch as it has made some of my favorite weapons (G3, SAW) more useful.

2006-02-17 13:39:27

#20

M730A2: Member; +45|7126

Enemy boat spotted

2006-02-17 13:57:50

#21

GotMex?: $623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt; +193|7194

armin wrote:
1. You can't work as a true medic now, by the time you prone to revive, you're dead.

You don't have to prone to revive people. Just stand over them and aim at their chest with paddles.

2006-02-17 14:06:10

#22

Poofy: Member; +0|7104|Pennsylvania

You shouldn't be reviving people anyways if the victum is in an area where the added split second of going prone will get you killed. Medics shouldn't be reviving people in every hot spot they come across a downed man on, you'll just give the other team 3 kills instead of just the original one...

Last edited by Poofy (2006-02-17 14:06:33)

2006-02-17 14:24:26

#23

Rakasan: Member; +7|7268|California, USA

I think it's funny how you can easily kill ppl using a PKM standing up.

2006-02-17 14:27:25

#24

airborne916: Member; +24|7096

Poofy wrote:
You shouldn't be reviving people anyways if the victum is in an area where the added split second of going prone will get you killed. Medics shouldn't be reviving people in every hot spot they come across a downed man on, you'll just give the other team 3 kills instead of just the original one...

but us medics dont care, we are getting out point and the shooter is getting his. i have revived a guy 5 times.

Last edited by airborne916 (2006-02-17 14:28:52)

2006-02-17 14:33:38

#25

Digital Aura: Git R Dun; +18|7092|Ontario, Canada

So what is it? Do you guys just need a reason to complain? CAN YOU THROW MEDPACKS or CANT YOU!?
Depending on who is complaining, its a different story about this patch!
I wont be updating anytime soon, but sheesh...it only proves that some of you complain without even knowing what you're talking about!

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