BF2S Forums Spec Ops class SUCKS now!! (Thanks to the 1.2 patch)

jonnykill wrote:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm

"Even shooting the explosive with a rifle won't trigger the reaction. Only a detonator, or blasting cap will do the job properly. "

Now would you all please just simply STFU and be happy that your bitching and griping fucked up such a great game ? Thank you , that is all .

How the hell does the detonator work without the blasting cap?

thank god my explosives stats were uber-1337 b4 teh new patch...


seriously, i know only 1 person w/better #'s...

http://bf2s.com/player/wagon_attack/

usmarine2005 wrote:

WaGoN_aTTacK wrote:

seriously, i know only 1 person w/better #'s...

http://bf2s.com/player/wagon_attack/

My internet penis is huge.

well mine's not, although i DO feel proud of my accomplishments, u know, improving my skills, making kids cry, etc...

ur right, marine.  i guess a little modesty would suit me better

<--checks self

usmarine2005 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm

"Even shooting the explosive with a rifle won't trigger the reaction. Only a detonator, or blasting cap will do the job properly. "

Now would you all please just simply STFU and be happy that your bitching and griping fucked up such a great game ? Thank you , that is all .

How the hell does the detonator work without the blasting cap?

Sigh , where do I begin ? First off the detonator IS the blasting cap - get it ?
There's different WAYS to set off the detonator in RL . One is by remote control . This isn't really used much
because if the soldier who placed it dies then there is risk the C4 won't go off at all .
To avoid this a timing device is used . Plant the C4 , set the timer , run away and find cover . Boom .
Another method is by a clacker much like the claymore uses . This is pretty much for opening doors .
The C4 is rolled out like a string and placed on the door near the hinges . You manually clack the detonator , remove the door aand assault .
Next is a suicide belt . Fill your jecket with C4 and blow yourself up including the people around you .

Now there was some member hear who claims that C4 needs to be glued or held onto an object with tape . WRONG . C4 is PLIABLE ! Meaning its like silly puddy . Now to a certain extent tossing C4 at a tank might not really work in RL . As well as sticking to a wall . But for sure you could walk up to a wall and simply press it onto the wall . Granted the wall might be covered in dust making it harder to stick to thus applying some pressure will sponge up some of that dust and push it aside and letting some of the inner C4 that is fresh start doing it's job of sticking . C4 from what I believe is slightly tacky . Perhaps not "sticky" but it will stick to things . With that said lets move on back to tossing it . There is no dout in my mind this tactic could be used in RL . To some extent it already has . What is the difference of tossing a molotov cocktail inside the open hatch of a tank or APC and blowint up all the people inside it ? This was done in mass in WW2 in France against zee Germans .
Now as far as tossing C4 at troops and being able to detonate it within twenty feet killing the guy and not yourself - can't be done . But this is a game . Like I said earlier I've only really encountered someone killing me in this fashion about ten times . I really don't see what the big deal is . And as far as people saying shit like " you should be stealthy , not killing troops and tanks " WTF are you even talking about ? That's like saying " I keep getting shot by the Anti tank unit guy with his anti tank unit weapon - that's bullshit , he should only use it on tanks ! " . It also never ends . Check this out . I have NEVER used C4 in this manner . I don't toss it at troops and I toss it at tanks . I PLACE it on tanks if the opportuninty is there . My main purpose is to destroy the enemy assests . That's ALL I do . I like taking everything out , killing pilots when they are waiting for aircraft . I steel vehicles and use them against the enemy . I play passive as well . I call for a suplly drop far away from the artillery and stuff to avoid the enemy UAV . I reup and observe the ENG fixing all the stuff and move in for more points blowing it all up again . In no way do I have to change my tactics with this latest patch but it sure seems to suck judging the way everydoby is bitching about it . In short bunny hoppers - use grenades . Dolphine divers - use grenades . C4 tossers - toss grenades . Done .

jonnykill wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm

"Even shooting the explosive with a rifle won't trigger the reaction. Only a detonator, or blasting cap will do the job properly. "

Now would you all please just simply STFU and be happy that your bitching and griping fucked up such a great game ? Thank you , that is all .

How the hell does the detonator work without the blasting cap?

Sigh , where do I begin ? First off the detonator IS the blasting cap - get it ?
There's different WAYS to set off the detonator in RL . One is by remote control . This isn't really used much
because if the soldier who placed it dies then there is risk the C4 won't go off at all .
To avoid this a timing device is used . Plant the C4 , set the timer , run away and find cover . Boom .
Another method is by a clacker much like the claymore uses . This is pretty much for opening doors .
The C4 is rolled out like a string and placed on the door near the hinges . You manually clack the detonator , remove the door aand assault .
Next is a suicide belt . Fill your jecket with C4 and blow yourself up including the people around you .

Now there was some member hear who claims that C4 needs to be glued or held onto an object with tape . WRONG . C4 is PLIABLE ! Meaning its like silly puddy . Now to a certain extent tossing C4 at a tank might not really work in RL . As well as sticking to a wall . But for sure you could walk up to a wall and simply press it onto the wall . Granted the wall might be covered in dust making it harder to stick to thus applying some pressure will sponge up some of that dust and push it aside and letting some of the inner C4 that is fresh start doing it's job of sticking . C4 from what I believe is slightly tacky . Perhaps not "sticky" but it will stick to things . With that said lets move on back to tossing it . There is no dout in my mind this tactic could be used in RL . To some extent it already has . What is the difference of tossing a molotov cocktail inside the open hatch of a tank or APC and blowint up all the people inside it ? This was done in mass in WW2 in France against zee Germans .
Now as far as tossing C4 at troops and being able to detonate it within twenty feet killing the guy and not yourself - can't be done . But this is a game . Like I said earlier I've only really encountered someone killing me in this fashion about ten times . I really don't see what the big deal is . And as far as people saying shit like " you should be stealthy , not killing troops and tanks " WTF are you even talking about ? That's like saying " I keep getting shot by the Anti tank unit guy with his anti tank unit weapon - that's bullshit , he should only use it on tanks ! " . It also never ends . Check this out . I have NEVER used C4 in this manner . I don't toss it at troops and I toss it at tanks . I PLACE it on tanks if the opportuninty is there . My main purpose is to destroy the enemy assests . That's ALL I do . I like taking everything out , killing pilots when they are waiting for aircraft . I steel vehicles and use them against the enemy . I play passive as well . I call for a suplly drop far away from the artillery and stuff to avoid the enemy UAV . I reup and observe the ENG fixing all the stuff and move in for more points blowing it all up again . In no way do I have to change my tactics with this latest patch but it sure seems to suck judging the way everydoby is bitching about it . In short bunny hoppers - use grenades . Dolphine divers - use grenades . C4 tossers - toss grenades . Done .

So what's your point? You weren't a C4 chucker so why do you care? Ok so theoretically you can both throw and make it stick to stuff. Ok, fine, whatever since you people are so stubborn I'll give you that too. But now that puts us to the meat of the argument and thats the instant detonation with no damage to the thrower. Yes it takes skill. I DON'T CARE. Lots of things "take skill", but they aren't nearly as overpowering as C4 throwing.  Not even a nube toob can cause so much damage to a group of people AND/OR vehicles that fast. So pre patch the Spec Ops was the ultimate kit. THAT'S why everyone played it. And you obviously don't play on too many servers, because lemme tell you it was OUT OF CONTROL in some of them. You got people getting 40-50 kills in a short amount of time. No other kit let you do that kind of damage pre patch. So it's FIXED NOW. END THIS STUPID POINTLESS DEBATE. Spec Ops is just as good as they were before the stupid C4 chucking started anyways so SHUT IT.

Last edited by warco3 (2006-02-18 14:37:34)

My point is this . I've played the game for 7 months solid . I don't use the favorites tag . Every server I pick is differnet . I simply play on any server with a good ping . So don't tell me I haven't been on a lot of servers . Anyhow like I said I only got killed by bunnyhopping C4 tossing idiots about 10 times in that 7 months . Wow a whole 10 times - bloddy fucking murder ! Here is what I have a problem with - the only area this is generally a " out of control problem " is Karkand . I find it absolutly frigging retarded that lil noobs like you complained soooooooooooooooooo much that EA and DICE had to cater to your complaining lil ass and make a new patch . For one area on one map . LoL . Probably cost like $80,000  to make that patch LoL .

dankassasin42o wrote:

C4 is a pastic explosive, used to destory something large, or gain entry to something, theses charges HAVE TO be placed on what you plan on exploding, then you have to set them, get outta the way an blow it.   You cant chuck c4 in RL.  And if you were trained how to use it, you wouldnt dare consider throwing it..  stupid fucking noobs, learn to play.   Quit whinning b'cuz you suck.    its not the kits, its the user

Im with you man all of you c4 chuckers don't have the skills to actualy sneek up on some one and place the c4 on there tank or apc.  I have never been a C4 chuker and been successful all along, i still blow people up every day and don't get shot you just have to know what your doing.  If you have to throw your C4 from a distance like a chicken shit bitch to be successful then your a noob and don't realy know how to play spec ops. so shut the fuck up and go learn how it is really done.  Oh and if anyone has anything to say about my spelling or punctuation go fuck yourselves, this is a battlefield 2 forum, not Websters Dictonary help .com

theDude5B wrote:

the new patch sucks in my oppinion. u can no longer throw medic packs to near by team mates, and u have to walk right up to the tank or apc to stick on the c4.

the reason for the patch is because of all the idiots who complain that the game is bad because of these things.

gg

bf2 could take a leaf from bf42...
spec ops & engineer are same class.