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uziq
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it’s much better when industry is ran by a circle of crooks and cronies.

america needs more oligarchs!
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Also "Hey you guys, I need you to work your asses off for no extra money and onboard this shit so I can fire your friends and collect my bonus!" is rarely an effective motivator.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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that’s happened at my place this year, though my position and niche within the department is safe (i’m the language and style guide guru). we’ve been bringing in a lot of newfangled tech, as any academic publisher basically must, and at times it has been like getting assistant editors to dig their own graves. i mean not even subtle, either. ‘here is your new supplier team in india with whom you will be working and managing, going forward. please show them how you proofread. oh, i’m afraid we no longer need you to proofread this journal from now on’.

very glad i spent a few years doing the glamour-poverty thing in books publishing as it has afforded me a strange status in the incredibly over-engineered tech-fetishising academic publishing world. everyone’s job gets totally reworked every 3-4 years according to the latest craze.

Last edited by uziq (2020-10-17 02:32:10)

unnamednewbie13
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Shahter wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

The last acquisition meeting I was at, ~~etcetc
capitalizom.
I'm not sure that's the right lament. Human obstruction can be an issue in anything from a feudal lordship to a communist dictatorship.
uziq
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nope, capitalism is the root of all problems.
Larssen
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uziq wrote:

that’s happened at my place this year, though my position and niche within the department is safe (i’m the language and style guide guru). we’ve been bringing in a lot of newfangled tech, as any academic publisher basically must, and at times it has been like getting assistant editors to dig their own graves. i mean not even subtle, either. ‘here is your new supplier team in india with whom you will be working and managing, going forward. please show them how you proofread. oh, i’m afraid we no longer need you to proofread this journal from now on’.

very glad i spent a few years doing the glamour-poverty thing in books publishing as it has afforded me a strange status in the incredibly over-engineered tech-fetishising academic publishing world. everyone’s job gets totally reworked every 3-4 years according to the latest craze.
The digging your own grave thing is recognisable. People need to be more aware of this. The consultancy I worked for also increasingly shifted to an outsourcing model. If you notice the overall organisational strategy doesn't include you/your department, it's really time to start looking elsewhere.
uziq
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outsourcing in publishing began almost immediately that desktop publishing became a thing, moving away assets/power from large printing presses. the 90s were a terrible time to be a typesetter in the UK, because anyone with a computer and the same specialist software (or, increasingly, adobe suites) could skill up and do your job. most typesetting is now done in india for 1/3rd the price of a high-quality english outfit. that's not altogether an unhappy development, as now tonnes of medium and small-sized presses are a thing, lots of translated literature comes across from niche markets, etc. in the old model, the publishing houses and presses had enormous power. they were quite literally cultural gatekeepers. in the 1990s you'd need about £300k (unadjusted for inflation) to even think of starting a publishing house and bringing your first book to market -- not to mention immense connections, and very much being 'in' the network. nowadays you find publishers ran out of people's living rooms in east anglia that get nominated for international prizes.

outsourcing pressure and that sort of thing is going to be the only consequence so long as amazon and major retailers squash the price of books down to the sub £10 market.

the story in academic publishing is a bit different and too boring to even get into it. it's majorly beholden to fads in supplier management/onboarding new technology, like 'online proofing tools' as opposed to tried-and-tested PDFs/hand. the situation there is one of huge world-straddling conglomerates like Elsevier, who control like most of the market, leading and the rest following like lemmings. there's a helluva lot of money sloshing around in academic publishing so you get a parasitical project management class who spend all their time leading the charge and taking departments through these pointless faddish changes.

i do know that a few years ago Wiley, one of the giants, outsourced all of their production to suppliers in india. a huge project that saw many staff reduced basically to email coordinators and front-facing author managers. 5 years later and there's been such a hit to quality and reputation that Wiley are now deploying huge resources to bring it all back in-house, and making a song and dance about it. who really benefited from it all? the project managers taking their yearly appraisal bonuses, of course.

Last edited by uziq (2020-10-17 03:34:48)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
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Why do you have to bump the 50 students up to 70s?
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
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You must be a patient and compassionate man. This is good news.
uziq
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are you on salvia?
Superior Mind
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Mac deleted his posts which gave my previous two context.
uziq
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ooooooh.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Nah you are on drugs

1:25
I was in my room and I was just like staring at the wall
Thinking about everything
But then again I was thinking about nothing
And then my mom came in and I didn't even know she was there
She called my name and I didn't even hear it
And then she started screaming, 'Mike, Mike'
And I go, 'What, what's the matter"
And she goes, 'What's the matter with you"
I go, 'There's nothing wrong, mom'
And she goes, 'Don't tell me that, you're on drugs'
I go, 'No, mom, I'm not on drugs, I'm okay
I was just thinking you know, why don't you get me a Pepsi'
And she goes, 'No, you're on drugs
I go, 'Mom, I'm okay, I'm just thinking'
She goes, 'No you're not thinking, you're on drugs
Normal people don't act that way'
I go, 'Mom just give me a Pepsi, please'
All I want is a Pepsi and she wouldn't give it to me
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi
And she wouldn't give it to me, just a Pepsi
unnamednewbie13
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nah

https://i.imgur.com/2ArM48h.jpg
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Mod abuse.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Stop gaslighting second macbeth.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,753|5417
Lol.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Dilbert_X wrote:

One of my colleagues had a day of 5S Lean manufacturing training on the Friday and quit on the Monday.

His unique skillset is definitely not replaceable in Australia, its pretty well unique to this company and has taken decades to develop, will be fun to watch the several million dollars of annual revenue with the the fattest gross margin in the place go out of the door.
Overheard the new manager asking "Could you, uh, like note down your like 20 years specialist experience and how you, uh, do your, uh, job on a one-pager so, uh, someone else could maybe pick it up after you've, uh, gone, yeah, uh, thanks."

Also the electrical apprentice is both mimicking and mocking me now. He's Russian and looks like teenage Putin so gets no mercy.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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you deserve it. a ginger in australia! the sun must play havoc with your bonce. colleagues must use your over-boiled egg of a head as a red beacon during summer months.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,702|4830|eXtreme to the maX
Actually I'm a rock of stability and maturity wherever I go. Pretty well everyone looks to me for guidance, and they get it whether or not they ask.
Also I'm not ginger, there are no ginger genes amongst the Normans. If I read my history books correctly they did their damnedest to exterminate the ginger gene from Europe.

My poor colleague trying to keep a straight face though, an image which will live with me forever.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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lots of normans were ginger, lmao. they were literally norse-people who went south. ginger hair (in whites) comes precisely from celts and norse-people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_the_Red

the founder of normandy, rollo, was likely red-headed.

https://norwaytoday.info/culture/dna-hu … normandie/

Last edited by uziq (2020-10-28 02:48:34)

Dilbert_X
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OK but after that they did their best to eradicate the ginger gene.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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is that your excuse for your toxic interest in eugenics and genocide?
Dilbert_X
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Its a duty more than an interest.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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i bet your aussie mates and colleagues love you talking about 'your norman roots' after the 3rd shandy.

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