Uzique The Lesser
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the original context of my post was clearly 'esteem' and 'respect' within the professional discipline. i think "fame" is pretty relative, no? leading literary academics achieve 'fame' within their fields, and are employed to visit different institutions all over the world, to hold forth on their specialism(s). the nature of the profession is very public - either as an orator/lecturer, or as a published author, with potential to have your books read/translated all over the world. i'd say there is a potential for 'fame', of a sort there. which is clearly what i was talking about when i mentioned that a well-paying job with a network of esteem and professional conduct is perfectly desirable. certain literary scholars/critics of the highest rank will be known by name to undergraduates all over the world, because of their frequent referencing on most basic reading lists/curricula, etc.etc. i'd say there's clearly a potential path to 'fame' or at least 'recognition' within the academic career ladder. the very basic form of production in the career is writing and publishing, you are essentially putting yourself out there to be read, cited, discussed etc. every single day.

my comment's meaning was fairly clear. only you would be anal enough to pick up on it and 'aha!' me because "academics are not world-famous" in the 'justin bieber is world famous' sense. you're being smarmy about a contradiction in terms here. do you know how stupid you look? you're asking that an academic - by definition someone scholarly, a person whose life-work is erudition - to be 'famous' in the sense that a pop star is. scholarship. popularity. erudition. populism. right. they really mix. it would be a terrible judgement of an academic to gauge his 'populist' success.

and yeah, sure, again, i really meant that academics "plan their entire life and career" around being around 18-25 year olds. it was a facetious point. i'm not sure anyone goes through 8+ years of training to enter a hideously competitive job-market for the slim 'possibility of being around young coeds'. if someone was a pervert or lusted after young women, i'm pretty sure there are hundreds of other professions that don't carry a 120,000 word PhD thesis as an entry point. you fucking moron. "plan their entire life and career around having ready access to 18 year olds". i cannot believe what i am fucking reading. that's REALLY the reason an academic commits themselves to researching extremely difficult intellectual content at the fringes of their field, for a whole lifetime... 95% of the academics i know are married, with children, by the time they settled into a post or their career in the main, at age 40'ish. how are you doing on that front, pervert-catcher?

on the contrary, i would say what you elect do in your spare time - e.g. posting in pervy soft-core porn threads - is far more indicting. what a sad little twerp.

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Facetious point? You've made it multiple times though, thats the thing.

If you're serious about a career in academia I'd think about cleaning up your electronic trail at least, if its as competitive as you say.

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Uzique The Lesser
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i am completely fine making the point that academia, as a public profession, in front of people, presenting work, being published etc. has a lot of room for 'recognition'. it's a highly-esteemed profession (by most people who aren't you), and obviously has a potential for international recognition, or the ability to have your work read by many scholars/undergraduate students. that's sort of the whole nature of it, you know: you produce research essays/articles/books/lectures, which are then delivered to a network of other scholars, for review, and a body of students, who will use it for their own instruction and guidance. hence 'recognition'. the potential is directly there. far more than many other professions, i.e. pencil pushing office jobs. not much chance to be recognized outside of your own business/organization in a cubicle job. never have i claimed that academia carries a "fame" of the lindsay lohan or kim kardashian sort. why would i ever make that argument? if you can't read the simple meanings of my statements, that is your obstinacy at fault, not mine. i am not a retard. nor would i make tendentious claims for complete non-achievements such as 'pop culture fame'.

Definition of fame
noun
[mass noun]

    the state of being known by many people:the song’s success rocketed him to stardom and fame

Phrases

of —— fame
    having a particular famous association; famous for having or being ——:
and my career in academia is progressing perfectly well, thanks. my academic superiors check me on the quality of my written work/thought, not on posts i make on internet forums. several of them even follow me on twitter, actually, where i talk about plenty of non-academic stuff. my personal website(s), too. not sure why/how any of them would ever find bf2s. or why they'd spend their time that way. they are typically well-functioning 40 year olds. the concept may confuse you.

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Macbeth
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feeling like a Greek right now. I am selling my time by writing papers for teenagers.
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Uzique The Lesser
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how much do you get paid? i got offered pretty good rates for personal tuition/essay help, but it's a ballache over here having to keep tabs and do all the tax paperwork for it. they've really started coming down hard on 'personal tutors' and suchlike recently.
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I'm not doing serious academic assignments though I was offered once. I'm doing high school work. I'm getting paid in eighths of pot and LSD. The papers only take a few hours and I use wikipedia for them. After writing the papers using wikipedia I go over to google books and find a book on the subject. I look at the table of contents and find a chapter that relates to what I wrote and plug it in as a source. The grades have all been coming back high so the system works. I wouldn't do academic assignments at my school since I would be worried about getting in trouble. Other colleges I would though since they can't touch me.
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I should post a notice at one of the community of or lesser states colleges for papers since I seem to have this down.
Uzique The Lesser
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yeah man, it's always been a temptation of mine. being paid in pot or drugs is like something from a bad american teen movie. hahaha.

in DFW's biography you read about how he made loads of money doing undergraduate work for rich preppie kids at amherst. made loads of money. it's definitely lucrative. i was tempted to start doing work for an 'essay writing' agency, b/c they ask for people with first-class degrees (summa cum laude's), and recruit pretty much indiscriminately. if you can deliver, they pay. but it's really ethically shady, and i think it would basically destroy my soul and passion if i had to write identikit papers for little shits.

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continuing my job search.
I understand that Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. has a commitment to maintain an alcohol/drug-free workplace and that Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., unless prohibited by state law, requires a drug screening test as a part of its selection and hiring process. I understand that such drug screening will consist of the testing of a urine sample or other medically recognized test designed to detect traceable amounts of a controlled substance in my body. If after a second confirmatory test reviewed by a Medical Review Officer, it is determined my specimen contains a prohibited controlled substance or was altered or substituted, I will be disqualified from consideration for employment and any offer of employment will be withdrawn. I further understand and agree that if I am employed, I may be required to submit to alcohol/drug-testing under certain circumstances during my employment.
err should I even bother applying since I know I can't pass a drug test?
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you should have joined the military. then you would have been guaranteed a job at walmart!
Macbeth
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they would have paid my tuition to military college too so i could be an engineer. i cloud have been a real self made man. i would have nicknamed myself john galt
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macbeth i'm going to seriously look for a job for you. the pay at walmart blows. i know this bouncer who told me there was a spot as a busboy where he works. there is a bit of abuse but the pay is better than walmart.
Macbeth
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I would take it if I could. Thank you for the offer. I appreciate it though I don't want you to burden yourself.
Uzique The Lesser
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Macbeth wrote:

they would have paid my tuition to military college too so i could be an engineer. i cloud have been a real self made man. i would have nicknamed myself john galt
and won your sweetheart
Macbeth
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would have been in the 1% after our wedding
Cybargs
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I have too many people from my school that went to NYU.
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Uzique The Lesser
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Cybargs wrote:

I have too many people from my school that went to NYU.
popular first choice for asian jewry?
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

I have too many people from my school that went to NYU.
popular first choice for asian jewry?
Naw they all got rejected from ivy league schools and they want to be in new york coz apparently its the center of the universe. All of the people who went were girls lol.
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Uzique The Lesser
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it still amazes me how many 'world top' american universities have acceptance rates like 30% (NYU's). that's crazy. especially considering you can apply to how many you want. the UK's system is fucking terrible compared to that. 5 choices per year and all the top 20/30 - of which maybe only half are in the world top 100/250 - are like 5-15% entry.
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I hope they had a wonderful time angelic beauties they must be.
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It would be nice to apply for some place that didn't require drug screening. Do they do that in the U.K. and Aus?
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Macbeth wrote:

It would be nice to apply for some place that didn't require drug screening. Do they do that in the U.K. and Aus?
drug screening for unis? LOL WTF

zique: Ivies have like 5-10% acceptance entry as well. Lot's of those numbers are inflated by the sheer number of people who apply to universities and as you said, apply to as many places as they want. Costs money though, 60-100 dollar per application and 10 dollars per SAT scores sent. I know people who spent 1000+ in application alone. fucking nuts.
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Macbeth
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For jobs. Did you read the title of this thread?
Uzique The Lesser
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Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

It would be nice to apply for some place that didn't require drug screening. Do they do that in the U.K. and Aus?
drug screening for unis? LOL WTF

zique: Ivies have like 5-10% acceptance entry as well. Lot's of those numbers are inflated by the sheer number of people who apply to universities and as you said, apply to as many places as they want. Costs money though, 60-100 dollar per application and 10 dollars per SAT scores sent. I know people who spent 1000+ in application alone. fucking nuts.
i'd prefer the ability to pay to apply to 10+ 'top-tier' schools than to be limited to 4/5 and then have to run the luck lottery on a handful of extremely selective schools. it's nice to be able to spread your options, i guess. having a total limit feels kind of arbitrary - it's just an organization and ease-of-convenience thing for the central body here (UCAS) tbh. nothing more.

and no, you typically are not screened for job interviews or university applications here. they can however do background checks on you, requesting a sort of criminal rapsheet/warning record from the police. but not quite the same thing.
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Macbeth wrote:

For jobs. Did you read the title of this thread?
ah sorry thought we were still talking about college.

naw usually they don't do a drug screen unless it's a government job. employers can give less of a fuck tbh.

edit: for universities in QLD, ACT and NSW you get 9 "preferences" for specific degree/school you want to go to, if you get rejected by top preference, they see if you get accepted in your second and so on and so forth.

US system does allow kids with more money to apply to more places. but being limited to 5 uni's is pretty absurd tbh.

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