I don't think either candidate is gonna do anything great, or really even good, for you guys. Better luck next time around?
Last edited by -Whiteroom- (2012-09-20 09:57:43)
better luck? i am fine. i control my life not these guys. at least i am not in spain, greece, or italy so im good. thank you for your concern though. we value feedback from foreigners.-Whiteroom- wrote:
I don't think either candidate is gonna do anything great, or really even good, for you guys. Better luck next time around?
What are you looking at dicknose
oh franky.
We don't know that, but if he wins, I doubt we'll see much of a difference.Frank Reynolds wrote:
he is bad but still way better than nobama.
Why is this even a thread anymore?
We all know that Romney has torpedoed his campaign.
We all know that Romney has torpedoed his campaign.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Rmoney acted as though he didn't really want it, tbh. i think he's trolling the neocons.
\WHEN Mitt Romney was governor of liberal Massachusetts, he supported abortion, gun control, tackling climate change and a requirement that everyone should buy health insurance, backed up with generous subsidies for those who could not afford it. Now, as he prepares to fly to Tampa to accept the Republican Party’s nomination for president on August 30th, he opposes all those things. A year ago he favoured keeping income taxes at their current levels; now he wants to slash them for everybody, with the rate falling from 35% to 28% for the richest Americans.
All politicians flip-flop from time to time; but Mr Romney could win an Olympic medal in it (see article). And that is a pity, because this newspaper finds much to like in the history of this uncharismatic but dogged man, from his obvious business acumen to the way he worked across the political aisle as governor to get health reform passed and the state budget deficit down. We share many of his views about the excessive growth of regulation and of the state in general in America, and the effect that this has on investment, productivity and growth.
full TE article; http://www.economist.com/node/21560864? … 9fd9577f0e
Going by his history I don't think he could ever genuinely push whatever agenda has been handed to him.
Last edited by Shocking (2012-09-20 15:36:31)
inane little opines
He's the anti-idealogue. He'll say whatever it takes to get elected and never make the mistake of presenting substantive ideas of his own that he wouldn't be able to abandon if found unpopular.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay wrote:
You truly believe that the Republicans in Congress are blocking his legislation from passing because he is black? You honestly believe that? They're politicians, they would spit on their own mother if she was of the wrong political party.Varegg wrote:
You guys are such twats ... I didn't say he got elected by a landslide because he is black or that he is being blocked solely because he is black, but then again you can't really dismiss the fact that he is black has somewhat to do with it ...
So racism is a problem but not in politics? ... what an amazingly ignorant observation ...
The only people who accuse the opposition of racism are the zealots that can't understand how anyone could possibly have a different viewpoint from their own. Racism is the easy rationalization for these types of people. Why else wouldn't everyone want 'free healthcare', 'free education' etc.
Besides, for every white person that voted against the guy because he was black, just as many people voted him into office precisely because he was black. White guilt, black people wanting one of their own in office etc. It's a retarded argument.
You blame zealots for not understanding a different viewpoint while you two seconds later call an argumented retarded because you don't agree ... good going Jay ;-)
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Pretty much. If he wins from here I will be utterly amazed.UnkleRukus wrote:
Why is this even a thread anymore?
We all know that Romney has torpedoed his campaign.
Obama still leads by only three points. Not great for an incumbent, especially after his supposed "bump." I'm fairly positive that he'll still win, though, but don't really have any strong feelings about it whichever way it goes.UnkleRukus wrote:
Why is this even a thread anymore?
We all know that Romney has torpedoed his campaign.
Giant douche, turd sandwich.
Obama barely beat McCain-Palin, that by itself is incredible.
This election could go either way.
This election could go either way.
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RCP has him up by 56 in the electoral college count. Romney would need to win the majority of the current toss-ups to win. With Romney polling behind by 3ish points, I doubt that will happen.
Much like one of the most beloved Presidents of recent memory: Bill Clinton.Jay wrote:
He's the anti-idealogue. He'll say whatever it takes to get elected and never make the mistake of presenting substantive ideas of his own that he wouldn't be able to abandon if found unpopular.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Obama had a huge landslide victory electoral college wise.Dilbert_X wrote:
Obama barely beat McCain-Palin, that by itself is incredible.
This election could go either way.
and a congress.Cybargs wrote:
Obama had a huge landslide victory electoral college wise.Dilbert_X wrote:
Obama barely beat McCain-Palin, that by itself is incredible.
This election could go either way.
nigga found a roadblock when the 2010 elections happened, and the republicants found a new use for the filibuster.
God forbid we exercise the system of checks and balances. What a fucking horror show.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
oh yes Mr. FEOS, congress is using it's constitutional given power - in the house to not bring bills to vote, and in the senate to filibuster. the congress is not acting partisan at all, our countries credit downgrade and the sequestration are natural events that just happened, we don't have a farm bill for the first time, and the esteemed Senator from Kentucky didn't proclaim that it's the republicants goal to see Mr. Obama serve only one term.FEOS wrote:
God forbid we exercise the system of checks and balances. What a fucking horror show.
you seem to think this is a partisan issue when i'm seeing it as a governance issue - the republicants are boo-hooing because they aren't in the white house and the demicants are crying because they don't have access to the purse strings of congress. there's plenty of blame to go around but what America does not have is time. while both sides are crying, nothing gets done and business of governance goes undone. i hope the fiscal cliff wakes up voters of every party, and i hope one day America has the backbone to enact term limits and campaign reform.
Regarding the farm bill... thank christ. Government sponsored cartels are bad mmmkay?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I never said it was a partisan issue. Only one of us is laying blame at the feet of either/both party(ies).13urnzz wrote:
oh yes Mr. FEOS, congress is using it's constitutional given power - in the house to not bring bills to vote, and in the senate to filibuster. the congress is not acting partisan at all, our countries credit downgrade and the sequestration are natural events that just happened, we don't have a farm bill for the first time, and the esteemed Senator from Kentucky didn't proclaim that it's the republicants goal to see Mr. Obama serve only one term.FEOS wrote:
God forbid we exercise the system of checks and balances. What a fucking horror show.
you seem to think this is a partisan issue when i'm seeing it as a governance issue - the republicants are boo-hooing because they aren't in the white house and the demicants are crying because they don't have access to the purse strings of congress. there's plenty of blame to go around but what America does not have is time. while both sides are crying, nothing gets done and business of governance goes undone. i hope the fiscal cliff wakes up voters of every party, and i hope one day America has the backbone to enact term limits and campaign reform.
Congress doesn't exist to rubberstamp Executive branch initiatives. Nor does the Judicial branch. Filibuster is an accepted (though not necessarily acceptable) part of the debate process, and is used by both parties extensively. The House has attempted budgetary fixes, but the Senate either doesn't allow a vote on them or votes them down...and the President would veto any House budget initiative, anyway.
The House blocking White House spending initiatives are their attempt to get the government to reign in spending--as well as an attempt to parade around what they see as the Administration's shortcomings in fiscal policy.
There will be no "budget showdown" until after the election; Congress passed a funding bill right before they left session.
I'd much rather have gridlock than rubberstamping--regardless of the parties involved. It means Congress is at least attempting to do their job...and apparently nobody in either branch has heard of the phrase, "First, do no harm."
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
There was already a budget showdown, and the result was a lowered credit rating.
It's all well and good to have checks and balances, but this House has been one of record filibusters and zero jobs bills.
The GOP stance was to make the "Obama" economy look as bad as possible by passing nothing that would improve it.
But what can you expect from the party that says “Our number one priority is making Obama a one-term president.” ?
It's all well and good to have checks and balances, but this House has been one of record filibusters and zero jobs bills.
The GOP stance was to make the "Obama" economy look as bad as possible by passing nothing that would improve it.
But what can you expect from the party that says “Our number one priority is making Obama a one-term president.” ?
What a short memory you have, AR. What's it like for history to have started in 2010?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
You'd love it, since you don't have to mention George Bush at all.
Which is kind of the Republican motto these days, anyway.
Which is kind of the Republican motto these days, anyway.
George who?
Its Obama's fault the economy is in the shit and Aghanistan isn't a plutocracy yet.
Its Obama's fault the economy is in the shit and Aghanistan isn't a plutocracy yet.
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obama did a great job as a community leader in chicago with 57 homicides in august alone.
What are you looking at dicknose