Government forces the doctors to sleep together in crowded "break rooms" after 18 hour shifts of checking patients.
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.Jay wrote:
The public hospitals in the US are run by the VA and are horrific. I've dealt with public hospitals and would not wish to inflict that on our civilian population. Thanks.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 times in this thread, you can still have a PRIVATE system on top of an NHS. Are there no public hospitals in the USA? I would highly doubt doctors are going to go into strikes because their paychecks switched from a private source to a public source.Jay wrote:
No, because they grew up in the system and knew what they were getting into. Current practicing doctors in the US did not. Telling them 'Hey, you work for the government now'? Fuck no. Never. They didn't sign up for that.
http://www.apha.org.au/
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.Jay wrote:
The public hospitals in the US are run by the VA and are horrific. I've dealt with public hospitals and would not wish to inflict that on our civilian population. Thanks.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 times in this thread, you can still have a PRIVATE system on top of an NHS. Are there no public hospitals in the USA? I would highly doubt doctors are going to go into strikes because their paychecks switched from a private source to a public source.
http://www.apha.org.au/
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
We need your women. I need your women.
I mean hey, better to spend twice as much on healthcare compared to what everyone else is spending right?Jay wrote:
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.Jay wrote:
The public hospitals in the US are run by the VA and are horrific. I've dealt with public hospitals and would not wish to inflict that on our civilian population. Thanks.
http://www.apha.org.au/
oh fuck off i've wasted at least three lab hours looking for fucking imperial unit screws because the idiot company that makes supposedly high-precision scientific equipment doesn't use goddamn metricJay wrote:
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.Jay wrote:
The public hospitals in the US are run by the VA and are horrific. I've dealt with public hospitals and would not wish to inflict that on our civilian population. Thanks.
http://www.apha.org.au/
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Spark wrote:
oh fuck off i've wasted at least three lab hours looking for fucking imperial unit screws because the idiot company that makes supposedly high-precision scientific equipment doesn't use goddamn metricJay wrote:
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.
http://www.apha.org.au/
I'm just saying that saying something is 125 mL is really no different than saying something is 1/8 of a gallon, yet people get all worked up about the superiority of their own system. Silly.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i use imperial when it comes to height. saying 6 feet is a lot better than "180cm lel." food is the same, a 14 ounce steak is better than "xxx" gram steakJay wrote:
Spark wrote:
oh fuck off i've wasted at least three lab hours looking for fucking imperial unit screws because the idiot company that makes supposedly high-precision scientific equipment doesn't use goddamn metricJay wrote:
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.
I'm just saying that saying something is 125 mL is really no different than saying something is 1/8 of a gallon, yet people get all worked up about the superiority of their own system. Silly.
but metric for everything else.
My science classes were all in SI units. My engineering courses were a mix of both, so I had to learn both well. Newtons and kips and meters and inches and whatever, it's all the same.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Yeah I actually use imperial more often for "everyday" stuff, but SI when I'm actually trying to work out anything. I can't multiply feet and inches in my head.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Pulled randomly from my old Strengths text:
Consecutive pages, two sets of units
Consecutive pages, two sets of units
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You don't have to You convert when you're done.Spark wrote:
Yeah I actually use imperial more often for "everyday" stuff, but SI when I'm actually trying to work out anything. I can't multiply feet and inches in my head.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
americans are silly.
More on topic: As always, I go for the pragmatic approach - what gives the best outcome is what you should go for. Certainly I've had no issues with the public hospital system here.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Sheeeeit, we got the same book. Mechanics of Materials by Beer.Jay wrote:
Pulled randomly from my old Strengths text:
Consecutive pages, two sets of units
It was a good one My prof sucked so I taught myself out of that book.Doctor Strangelove wrote:
Sheeeeit, we got the same book. Mechanics of Materials by Beer.Jay wrote:
Pulled randomly from my old Strengths text:
Consecutive pages, two sets of units
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Same.
me too
Tu Stultus Es
For some reason I picture Jays world as streets filled with stinking corpses. They can't pay for themselves to be shipped off to the morgue, so fuck em. Also, we can't make anyone pick it up, that'd be slavery.
Fine, have fun paying twice as much as anyone else pays.Jay wrote:
And for the 20 millionth time, we don't need your system, just like we don't need metric.Cybargs wrote:
As I said 20 million times, you can have a private system on top of a public system. doctors can choose to go private.Jay wrote:
The public hospitals in the US are run by the VA and are horrific. I've dealt with public hospitals and would not wish to inflict that on our civilian population. Thanks.
http://www.apha.org.au/
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
Interesting how the SCOTUS reviewing the legality of the law immediately turned into a thread on the practical effects of socialized medicine!
What do you think?
Does this law go too far in compelling people to buy healthcare? Do you think this is part of the "slippery slope" toward a limitless government, or do you think this is just a pragmatic step to address a unique situation?
What do you think?
Does this law go too far in compelling people to buy healthcare? Do you think this is part of the "slippery slope" toward a limitless government, or do you think this is just a pragmatic step to address a unique situation?
Wah wah big government arguments from the right are so stupid when put into context of their thoughts on the military policing the rest of the world and controlling other governments.
Corruption is criminal.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think they are "out to get me". I think they care more about themselves than they care about doing the right thing/best thing for country. Not every person goes out and does criminal things (what the fuck kind of analogy this is I don't know) but everyone is self motivated to a serious degree especially people in positions of power.
Debate team. Join a debate team and you will learn how to do exactly that.
You're painfully naive.
ditto & you are paranoid.
All politicians are power hungry and do not actually care about the issues they represent. Gotcha.
inane little opines
Compelling people to buy overpriced healthcare sucks ass, and may well be too far in US law.RAIMIUS wrote:
Interesting how the SCOTUS reviewing the legality of the law immediately turned into a thread on the practical effects of socialized medicine!
What do you think?
Does this law go too far in compelling people to buy healthcare? Do you think this is part of the "slippery slope" toward a limitless government, or do you think this is just a pragmatic step to address a unique situation?
The smart thing would have been to create a state-backed competitor to commercial healthcare, at a much lower rate and providing basic services.
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
The latter ofc but I'm yet to actually hear any legal arguments either way over the constitutionality of this.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman