FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Macbeth wrote:

FEOS wrote:

but you still shouldn't call people fucking morons for that.
okay dad
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Spearhead
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

I don't want that to happen, but I acknowledge that the U.S. has the capacity to do so if desired. How many B2s do we have anyway? 21 IIRC. Get 21 of those babies flying over Iran at one time and dropping JDAMs and bunker-busters on desired targets and their government wouldn't exist in no-time.
Good luck on implementing the next "Marshall plan" then...

You know, that little reason WW2 was not a complete clusterfuck
Cybargs
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

I don't want that to happen, but I acknowledge that the U.S. has the capacity to do so if desired. How many B2s do we have anyway? 21 IIRC. Get 21 of those babies flying over Iran at one time and dropping JDAMs and bunker-busters on desired targets and their government wouldn't exist in no-time.
Have fun patrolling Tehran.
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globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6581|Graz, Austria

-Sh1fty- wrote:

(during good weather)
Yeah, weather can be a bitch. Ask Napoleon and Hitler about it.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

If Iran doesn't have any roads, factories, bridges, etc. how are they going to right a war? We can also take out their head government buildings, communications, etc. and they'll have no way too coordinate. Hell after doing all that via B2s I wouldn't even bother sending in ground forces since they couldn't do anything.
Don't you think that the government and military would be hiding in bunkers and coordinate from there?
All you'd achieve with "bombing the fuck out" would be massive collateral damage and a population filled with anger against "the evil USA".
Unless you plan to continuously bomb Iran for all eternity (the industrial-military complex would jizz their pants) until every last building and human is destroyed and killed, you won't have another choice than to invade, occupy and install a new, obedient government.

Although, if you define the goal of the war as "bombing the shit out", you surely can "win" it and hang up those 'Mission Accomplished' banners.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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As long as we take down another of Israel's enemies for no cost to them and no benefit to ourselves - thats whats important.
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6668|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

As long as we take down another of Israel's enemies for no cost to them and no benefit to ourselves - thats whats important.
They're talking about Israel doing it themselves. How exactly is that "us doing it for them at no cost to them and no benefit for us"?

Too bad reality--once again--confounds your conspiracy theories.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

As long as we take down another of Israel's enemies for no cost to them and no benefit to ourselves - thats whats important.
They're talking about Israel doing it themselves. How exactly is that "us doing it for them at no cost to them and no benefit for us"?

Too bad reality--once again--confounds your conspiracy theories.

OP wrote:

If the US decided to fight Iran, would Iran's military have a chance?

Sh1fty wrote:

We can also take out their head government buildings, communications, etc. and they'll have no way too coordinate.
Important bits bolded for you, I don't see any mention of Israel doing any fighting.

(I do hope you're not the one analysing intel or aerial photos )

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2012-02-21 04:16:26)

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Macbeth
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globefish23 wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

(during good weather)
Yeah, weather can be a bitch. Ask Napoleon and Hitler about it.
Napoleon lost most of his troops on the way to Moscow in the summer and fall. It's a complete myth that his army was wiped out by winter.
jord
Member
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if the iranian army is comprised of mostly 18th century british musketmen then how would they fare if the US just sent in 100 of their best marines?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6757|so randum
idk but lets say the iranians were 100 sas and the us were 10000 marines who would win jord?
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jord
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depends on the details ted, i mean can the SAS recruit. train and fight alongside an indiginous force or is their number just the 100
Macbeth
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Do the SAS have air support or tanks?
globefish23
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Thread successfully derailed redirected.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6757|so randum

jord wrote:

depends on the details ted, i mean can the SAS recruit. train and fight alongside an indiginous force or is their number just the 100
hmm i don't know. how about a wild 100 royal marines appear to support the SAS?
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AussieReaper
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FatherTed wrote:

jord wrote:

depends on the details ted, i mean can the SAS recruit. train and fight alongside an indiginous force or is their number just the 100
hmm i don't know. how about a wild 100 royal marines appear to support the SAS?
depends on the details ted, i mean can the royal marines recruit. train and fight alongside an indiginous force or is their number just the 100
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6668|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

As long as we take down another of Israel's enemies for no cost to them and no benefit to ourselves - thats whats important.
They're talking about Israel doing it themselves. How exactly is that "us doing it for them at no cost to them and no benefit for us"?

Too bad reality--once again--confounds your conspiracy theories.

OP wrote:

If the US decided to fight Iran, would Iran's military have a chance?

Sh1fty wrote:

We can also take out their head government buildings, communications, etc. and they'll have no way too coordinate.
Important bits bolded for you, I don't see any mention of Israel doing any fighting.

(I do hope you're not the one analysing intel or aerial photos )
Nah...just watching the news. You should try it sometime.
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FEOS wrote:

Nah...just watching the news. You should try it sometime.
Ah OK, I was referring to the discussion in this thread.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

Macbeth wrote:

globefish23 wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

(during good weather)
Yeah, weather can be a bitch. Ask Napoleon and Hitler about it.
Napoleon lost most of his troops on the way to Moscow in the summer and fall. It's a complete myth that his army was wiped out by winter.
This. Even in retreat the weather was mostly above freezing.
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
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I knew he lost the vast majority of his troops but not the causes. I heard it was the freezing weather, but you guys seem to disagree. What about malnutrition and whatnot? I never understood how battles in times past had thousands or hundreds of thousands fighting each other. The logistics are mind boggling, where do they get all the food and water for these men when they're not ploughing fields?
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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just for you Shifty http://www.dclab.com/logistics.asp
In those days they relied heavily on the land. But the Russians took care of that themselves (Scorched earth policy not weather). It was Napoleon who blamed the weather.. easier to swallow than blaming himself I guess.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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If Napoleon had had Tiger Tanks and the Russians had T34s the Russians would still have won because they used thinner oils which didn't freeze and also the weather was really bad which didn't help so invading Russia would be a really bad idea right now.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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actually I posted the wrong link I was looking for Shifty..lol
http://entomology.montana.edu/historybu … russia.htm

Perhaps most importantly, Napoleon's reputation of invincibility was shattered (Chandler 1966). Napoleon attempted to make the best of a horrific circumstance. He blamed his misfortune on the Russian winter. On 20 December, he reported to the Senate, "My army had had some losses, but this was due to the premature rigors of the season." Chandler (1966) stated, "From these words...a celebrated historical myth has emerged." At the time, his supporters believed him. Madame Junot, wife of General Junot, wrote in her memoirs (1901), "Muscovite vanity was reluctant to acknowledge that THE WEATHER had had a large share of the victory; though it was a general remark among the common people in Russia that it was not General Kutusov, but General FROST, who had destroyed the French army." Cartwright (1972) stated that "...this is the accepted opinion but, to make the picture complete, we should add the name of General Typhus and General Napoleon."
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Kmar wrote:

actually I posted the wrong link I was looking for Shifty..lol
http://entomology.montana.edu/historybu … russia.htm

Perhaps most importantly, Napoleon's reputation of invincibility was shattered (Chandler 1966). Napoleon attempted to make the best of a horrific circumstance. He blamed his misfortune on the Russian winter. On 20 December, he reported to the Senate, "My army had had some losses, but this was due to the premature rigors of the season." Chandler (1966) stated, "From these words...a celebrated historical myth has emerged." At the time, his supporters believed him. Madame Junot, wife of General Junot, wrote in her memoirs (1901), "Muscovite vanity was reluctant to acknowledge that THE WEATHER had had a large share of the victory; though it was a general remark among the common people in Russia that it was not General Kutusov, but General FROST, who had destroyed the French army." Cartwright (1972) stated that "...this is the accepted opinion but, to make the picture complete, we should add the name of General Typhus and General Napoleon."
well didn't in all wars before like WWII (or was it I?) more soldiers died from disease than from combat?
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
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Its one of the main reasons we lost the 100 year war with France...English kings were more interested in the cheap / profitable raping and pilaging as it was far more difficult to maintain a sustained presence (not that it didnt happen on occasion :p ).

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