but there is. Swap God out for Kim Jong-il, and Jesus out for yung-un, and youve pretty much realised what they believe. Jong-il is a diety in their eyes, plain and simple. They were taught to worship him from day one, you've been taught to worship god from day one. It is very similar.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I love the Bible and it's only made my life better. Irony isn't the case here, but good try.Adams_BJ wrote:
-Sh1fty- wrote:
Even if they're under so much propoganda, how did Kim get away with having them treated like shit? Wouldn't they think, ya know, my life sucks because of all these rules he made, so he's not that amazing. But I guess I'm underestimating the influence of being raised from day 1 to love this wonderful leader and whatnot. I guess you can't want something you don't know exists.
kim jon-il basically was a deity and north korea was, to all practical purposes, a theocracy.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I love the Bible and it's only made my life better. Irony isn't the case here, but good try.Adams_BJ wrote:
-Sh1fty- wrote:
Even if they're under so much propoganda, how did Kim get away with having them treated like shit? Wouldn't they think, ya know, my life sucks because of all these rules he made, so he's not that amazing. But I guess I'm underestimating the influence of being raised from day 1 to love this wonderful leader and whatnot. I guess you can't want something you don't know exists.
it was a state with a living god as its head and they were all in the church.
that is why they don't miss anything outside. do you wonder what life is like at the synagogue?
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The fact that you don't realise the similarities between the two shifty sort of shows how strong this conditioning can be.
this is very true. for example we laugh at the mythology created around kim jong-il, like the stuff about an albino sea cucumber or whatever or seeing a rainbow when he was born... but then christians take deadly seriously the mythology about jesus walking on water or moses seeing the burning bush. what's the difference? for both people we know that the 'feats' and miracles are physically impossible. only we laugh at kim jong-il cause we're watching from outside, but you take that shit about jesus turning those 5 loaves and 2 fish into a thousand super seriously.
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I think only the "fundementalists" take those parts of the bible seriously and literallyUzique wrote:
this is very true. for example we laugh at the mythology created around kim jong-il, like the stuff about an albino sea cucumber or whatever or seeing a rainbow when he was born... but then christians take deadly seriously the mythology about jesus walking on water or moses seeing the burning bush. what's the difference? for both people we know that the 'feats' and miracles are physically impossible. only we laugh at kim jong-il cause we're watching from outside, but you take that shit about jesus turning those 5 loaves and 2 fish into a thousand super seriously.
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except im actually encouraged to challenge and question my religionAdams_BJ wrote:
but there is. Swap God out for Kim Jong-il, and Jesus out for yung-un, and youve pretty much realised what they believe. Jong-il is a diety in their eyes, plain and simple. They were taught to worship him from day one, you've been taught to worship god from day one. It is very similar.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I love the Bible and it's only made my life better. Irony isn't the case here, but good try.Adams_BJ wrote:
unless my name is shifty
Catholicism vs Protestantism ITT please
it's still a mythology that adds to the aura of jesus. whether or not people take individual tales seriously, they perceive him to be an exemplary individual because of this mythology of 'deeds' and 'miracles' performed by him. all evidenced only in a book, may we add. there's no difference between estimating christ as a great figure and praising kim jong-il. both are apocryphal figures.
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im celebrating the winter solstice and coca-cola's santa claus, thanks
I know what it's like to not be Christian. I have non-Christian friends, and I also spent the first half of my life non-Christian.Adams_BJ wrote:
The fact that you don't realise the similarities between the two shifty sort of shows how strong this conditioning can be.
These people however, have spent their entire lives under this one guy. They know nothing else.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
well then you sorta just answered your own question, didncha there pal?-Sh1fty- wrote:
I know what it's like to not be Christian. I have non-Christian friends, and I also spent the first half of my life non-Christian.Adams_BJ wrote:
The fact that you don't realise the similarities between the two shifty sort of shows how strong this conditioning can be.
These people however, have spent their entire lives under this one guy. They know nothing else.
looks like it's not taken long for the crazy to come out.
boys, could you at least try to make it convincing?
never mind that us nukes in sth korean soil makes zero sense, never mind that "nukes in sth korea" is as good a provocation you're gonna getNorth Korea wants US to remove purported nuclear weapons from South Korean territory - Reuters
BreakingNews: More: North Korea warns Monday's missile test was a warning but will not conduct nuclear test unless provoked - Reuters
boys, could you at least try to make it convincing?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Why are n koreans dumb?
It's from the viewpoint of a Christian. Sarcasm dude.
Would have thought that was obvious. Why not question "the greatest people on the planet"?
6 pages to a brutal dictator is better than God. Par for the course for D&ST, tbh.RTHKI wrote:
wtf is this shit
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
"brutal" dictator? lol. are you forgetting the great flood? sodom and gomorrah? lol god has a way better killstreak than kim. be real dude.
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Dont forget the "If you dont do exactly as I say you go to hell forever" part.
ITT atheists debate a topic they know nothing about
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