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normal to make profit on the physical and mental wellbeing of actual humans?

lol ok

FatherTed wrote:

so like you see some dude bleeding out in the street and well 'he should have made better choices in life' or 'shoulda got better cover buddy!'

Umm, ok. That has anything to do with this conversation? No.

FatherTed wrote:

normal to make profit on the physical and mental wellbeing of actual humans?

lol ok

Can you farm? Can you raise chickens or cows or pigs? Can you plant a field of wheat or corn? Can you make cheese? I can't. I must pay a farmer to produce these products for me so that I can eat. I must eat to live. I can't perform open heart surgery on myself either. I must pay a doctor to perform this surgery on me. I definitely need the former to live. I might need the latter to live. Yet somehow, you begrudge the doctor the ability to earn a profit but have no such issue with the farmer. Too funny.

yes they can.

Uzique wrote:

yes they can.

No motherfucker, they can not. Now shut the fuck up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_ … _Labor_Act

lol 1986. also define emergency, their discretion?

Uzique wrote:

lol 1986. also define emergency, their discretion?

Nope. Walk into any emergency room and you'll be treated. Sniffles? Treated. Arm hanging off? Treated. Yes, they will attempt to charge you a la the schizophrenic kid in the OP. But, since you don't need any proof of identification you can just falsify your information. This is part of the reason our insurance rates are so high. Hospitals pass on the cost of non-payment to the rest of us.

Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. [2]

EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals." The statute defines "participating hospitals" as those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program.[3]

From the first few lines of your link retard. Someone quote me.

Jay wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. [2]

EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals." The statute defines "participating hospitals" as those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program.[3]However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals.

From the first few lines of your link retard. Someone quote me.

Learn to read child.

You unblocked me? Good to know.

A full quote of that line is better.

EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals." The statute defines "participating hospitals" as those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program.[3] However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals.[citation needed]

I left out the unsourced bit and left in the sourced bit. You know the difference between sourced and confirmed things and unsourced and unconfirmed things right?

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

One was for schizophrenia, not suicide. The mental hospital stay from the suicide attempt was forced, not voluntary. Did you read the OP?

I have Macbeth blocked.

You said you didn't read the OP because I was blocked earlier in the thread. So either you really didn't read the OP or you were lying to cover up your own bullshit sooo

Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

One was for schizophrenia, not suicide. The mental hospital stay from the suicide attempt was forced, not voluntary. Did you read the OP?

I have Macbeth blocked.

You said you didn't read the OP because I was blocked earlier in the thread. So either you really didn't read the OP or you were lying to cover up your own bullshit sooo

I did read the OP, I was just hoping that over time you would get that I don't want to talk to you, don't want to read what you write, and don't want any contact with you. I don't need an ignore feature to skip your posts. So please, go about your life as if I don't exist. Don't talk about me, don't think about me, certainly don't address me, I don't like you.

Health insurance plans rarely cover any and all health-related expenses, so even if you think you're covered there's a good chance you won't be.

What happens when you can't cover the costs based on your insurance? You end up in debt on top of any lost income already incured from your illness.

I don't think throwing another expense at someone who has already likely lost income is a good idea.

AussieReaper wrote:

Health insurance plans rarely cover any and all health-related expenses, so even if you think you're covered there's a good chance you won't be.

What happens when you can't cover the costs based on your insurance? You end up in debt on top of any lost income already incured from your illness.

I don't think throwing another expense at someone who has already likely lost income is a good idea.

It's not like they are asked to pay a lump sum payment. I talked to one guy on another forum, and he had racked up $200,000 in debt because he'd lost his job, and his health coverage, and was diagnosed with cancer six months later. He called up the hospital, claimed hardship, and set up a payment plan. He pays $200/month