Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great. keeps your senses awake when you're walking around, adds a bit of excitement. my uni has a super-modern building right next to a chateau. walking from one to the other is great. are you advocating traditionalism and monotony, shocking?
That's nice and all, but old, almost monumental, buildings shouldn't be a victim of modern (even ugly in our case) architecture.
Our old city centre is cramped, so you can't add new buildings to it without tearing down a few from the 1800's.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

Kampframmer wrote:

Jay wrote:

are those panels plastic?
Yes.
these don't stand the test of time very well and bright colored one's will turn bland and white one's turn green
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

Shocking wrote:

dude...
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6710

Kampframmer wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great. keeps your senses awake when you're walking around, adds a bit of excitement. my uni has a super-modern building right next to a chateau. walking from one to the other is great. are you advocating traditionalism and monotony, shocking?
That's nice and all, but old, almost monumental, buildings shouldn't be a victim of modern (even ugly in our case) architecture.
Our old city centre is cramped, so you can't add new buildings to it without tearing down a few from the 1800's.
some buildings get too old and dilapidated to repair, or become too expensive or unmanageable. lots of old buildings are outright abandoned and left to rot. i see no problem in tearing them down, then, and putting up something new. our cities would be scummy holes if we never flushed out the old and brought in the new.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6710

Shocking wrote:

uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great.
I don't.
why? reasons? justifications? i'm interested. if london was still completely victorian today, i'd be bored to tears. it would also be a dirty shithole, and all the buildings would be cold and expensive.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6740|so randum

Uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great. keeps your senses awake when you're walking around, adds a bit of excitement. my uni has a super-modern building right next to a chateau. walking from one to the other is great. are you advocating traditionalism and monotony, shocking?
^ i like this if it's done well

so like in manchester city centre there's lots of stuff like this;

https://www.aidan.co.uk/md/ManCornExch8927.jpg

and then over the road there's this;

https://www.cornerstonesguesthouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/urbis-manchester.jpg?05e8da
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6239|...

Jay wrote:

Shocking wrote:

dude...
one of the wonderful buildings on the uni campus.

as is this

https://www.abt.eu/sitemanager/images/act1_58.jpg

and this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Utrecht-Uithof,_Cambridgelaan_01.jpg
inane little opines
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6740|so randum
when it's done badly though;

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-74D22xaAnZQ/TduyURllZvI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/7oP3G0-9SaE/s1600/qub.jpg

with this on the other side of the road;

https://www.culturenorthernireland.org/images/venues/Queens%20Students%20Union.jpg
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

Uzique wrote:

Shocking wrote:

uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great.
I don't.
why? reasons? justifications? i'm interested. if london was still completely victorian today, i'd be bored to tears. it would also be a dirty shithole, and all the buildings would be cold and expensive.
Because new for the sake of new is stupid. It's childish to want to completely overturn what already exists for no other reason than excitement. I don't think he wants all new buildings to be built from the same materials and in the same style as some 17th century town hall, but to make some reasonable attempt to not be its garish antonym. The architecture style you're praising is to me nothing more than an attempt to troll the world.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

Shocking wrote:

Jay wrote:

Shocking wrote:

dude...
one of the wonderful buildings on the uni campus.

as is this



and this
Was that last one inspired by a dock crane? Wtf is wrong with you people?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Uzique wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great. keeps your senses awake when you're walking around, adds a bit of excitement. my uni has a super-modern building right next to a chateau. walking from one to the other is great. are you advocating traditionalism and monotony, shocking?
That's nice and all, but old, almost monumental, buildings shouldn't be a victim of modern (even ugly in our case) architecture.
Our old city centre is cramped, so you can't add new buildings to it without tearing down a few from the 1800's.
some buildings get too old and dilapidated to repair, or become too expensive or unmanageable. lots of old buildings are outright abandoned and left to rot. i see no problem in tearing them down, then, and putting up something new. our cities would be scummy holes if we never flushed out the old and brought in the new.
I'll give you (little) know fact that will support your argument.
99% of those old houses in our city centre are slanted, some to such a degree (but this is because of recent tunneling close to them) that they can no longer be lived in and have to held uo by wooden posts and boards. Shame really....

We really tend to keep out modern and traditional area's seperate. Right now, I wouldn't mind them putting down some new and refreshing buildings, but I'm just glad that they didn't do it in the 60's-90's.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England
This monstrosity is the new 9/11 museum:

https://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/winterkiss42/IMAG0271.jpg
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Shocking wrote:

Jay wrote:

Shocking wrote:

dude...
one of the wonderful buildings on the uni campus.

as is this



and this
Is all of that on Science Park or a different uni?
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

FatherTed wrote:

when it's done badly though;



with this on the other side of the road;
Bitch please, we would welcome that second building like a 3 quid handjob behind the bycicle shed.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6239|...

Uzique wrote:

Shocking wrote:

uzique wrote:

i think dropping ultra-modern or different buildings into a traditional space discursively is great.
I don't.
why? reasons? justifications? i'm interested. if london was still completely victorian today, i'd be bored to tears. it would also be a dirty shithole, and all the buildings would be cold and expensive.
It's the city center, as kampf said these places are near monumental and when you walk around in the cobblestone streets and look at the buildings it has a special feel to it. It's a part of the city that has barely changed in hundreds of years. It's beautiful. Dumping that blue monstrosity in the same street as aformentioned buildings is well, disrespectful.

and it's plain ugly.
inane little opines
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6239|Vortex Ring State

Shocking wrote:

mother of god

that thing's upkeep must be pretty expensive.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6239|...

Kampframmer wrote:

Shocking wrote:

Jay wrote:


dude...
one of the wonderful buildings on the uni campus.

as is this



and this
Is all of that on Science Park or a different uni?
uithof, utrecht
inane little opines
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

Trotskygrad wrote:

Shocking wrote:

mother of god

that thing's upkeep must be pretty expensive.
It looks like a block of lego's put together by someone that ran out of green and said 'fuck it' for the rest.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6740|so randum
oh this also i like

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Beatham_tower_Manchester_UK.jpg/230px-Beatham_tower_Manchester_UK.jpg

old building old building old building insane skyscraper old building old building
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5597|London, England

FatherTed wrote:

oh this also i like



old building old building old building insane skyscraper old building old building
That's actually pretty cool
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Trotskygrad wrote:

Shocking wrote:

mother of god

that thing's upkeep must be pretty expensive.
They don't bother with it.
that pic is has been taken when right after completion i reckon.
I bet it's becoming more bland and gross every day.

All they do with those po-mo buildings is hose em down with a small high-pressure hose (the one you use to clean you car you know). They can all burn (or rot most likely) to the ground as far as i'm concerned.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6239|...
Now, modern architecture in my city which I like:

https://www.archined.nl/uploads/pics/KraaijvangerUrbis_BestuurscentrumRabobank.jpg
inane little opines
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Shocking wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

Shocking wrote:


one of the wonderful buildings on the uni campus.

as is this



and this
Is all of that on Science Park or a different uni?
uithof, utrecht
strange.
I was in utrecht's uni district a few weeks ago and it looked great. The had renovated all the old building, but just large parts of the inside. keeping that traditional look on the outside, but with a modern and practical interior.

Good thing i didn't see those, that would've turned me off on that uni for sure.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6740|so randum

Jay wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

oh this also i like



old building old building old building insane skyscraper old building old building
That's actually pretty cool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetham_Tower,_Manchester
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
https://freeamsterdam.nl/news/images/museums/stedelijk.jpg
This museum in the city centre is being rennovated (not on the side shown in the pic) and it will get a new structure attached to the side.
Guess what it will look like?



Ta-Da!!
https://www.stipo.nl/documenten/940_visie_museumkwartier/02%20Uitbreiding%20Stedelijk%20Museum.jpg
there's your modern amongst the traditional Uzique.
We just can't pull it off.

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