BF2S Forums Religions of the world Thread

I'm sure there's some other explanation for NYC having five times the infection rate of Chicago.

It can't be a significant proportion of the population consistently ignoring all preventative measures, it just can't.

You don't think its strange that four months in they're still flouting all community expectations?

If muslims had been doing it there'd have been a cavalcade of teletubbies in tactical gear demanding the govt do something.

I didn't blame them for all America's infections, just the colossal bubble centred on, um, them.
Weird no?

All over the world the hasidim are flouting the law and getting infected like crazy, but I'm sure they're just keeping the virus to themselves because being so insular they couldn't have got their community infected in the first place.

I don't know, people going to parks and beaches don't seem to be spreading the virus the same way the hasidim are?

If the hasidim were integrated into the community they'd be following the laws and regulations, its pretty much the first unlock.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-04-30 06:33:16)

you have it all ass-backwards, unsurprisingly. the fact they live in isolated and confined communities is precisely why the transmission rate is so high.

for e.g., one of the main reasons that the death rates are so different between western european countries and southern european countries is because, and especially in lombardy above all, the culture there is one where families live together and elders are housed with their children and grandchildren. it is very unusual for grandparents to live with grandchildren in the west. hasidim live in different-sized family units and have a much more integrated family life. it's not hard to wrap your head around.

'spreading the virus'. can you show me the evidence pointing to the hasidim being main vectors of the disease to the regular population? all i'm seeing is stories about the hasidim being struck by the virus particularly hard. which, again, isn't surprising. it only takes 1 or 2 to become infected before it then spreads around their close-knit community like a wildfire.

weird that you think regular people hanging out in close proximity at beaches, pubs, concerts, etc are mostly going to be fine, but those infected religious folk must be spreading it to everyone! because obviously the hasidim are in much closer contact with the goys than a bunch of gammons tanning together on a beach. thankfully viruses aren't as full of ridiculous prejudices as you are and will spread amongst the secular and the christian just as handily.

let's just face it: your thinking is infected with tropes and imagery from the history of early-20th century fascism. the foreigner/other as a 'germ', as a bearer of disease, as being 'dirty' where whites are not, unhygienic where whites are not, and especially as posing some unique existential threat. it's amazing that you'll sit here and read jay going about his daily business when he's still in the infection window, and conclude that 'regular' secular americans are 'not spreading it like the hasidim'.

Last edited by uziq (2020-04-30 07:59:46)

so funny that you’ll rely on your friends, the israelis, to prop up your own quackery. don’t forget to mention a dead palestinian child and get out your mum’s fiddle again.

i’m sorry but accusing the hasidim of being the reason that NYC has a sky high infection rate is bollocks. you cannot have it both ways and accuse these groups of being ‘bad for democracy’ by not integrating and then ‘bad for public health’ by spreading diseases around.

obviously i am in full support of everyone following quarantine guidelines, and there is a valid criticism to be made of anyone who disregards the health advice. but the hasidim responsible for NYC's plague bomb? no. your rhetoric isn't all too dissimilar from jay's when he blamed 'poor people' for the plague because they are turning up in way higher numbers in the positive results and fatality numbers. because, you know, poor people work on buses and in hospitals, and live in cramped tenements or stacked together.

Last edited by uziq (2020-05-01 01:57:58)

the virus remains on surfaces and even in the air for a long time, it turns out. it's not hard to imagine how anyone contracted it. how did jay get it living in suburbia? it's clearly everywhere. their pattern of living and domestic arrangements clearly exacerbated the spread in their community, as opposed to the above suburban model. did jay give it to his entire extended family? probably not. a hasidim likely would.

this isn't complicated.

these things have nothing do with religion, outside of extreme limit cases where pastors or sects refuse the medical advice.

italy was a matter of sociology and public health policy. people live together in families. elders interact with children. they lead a 'communal' life, as do the chinese.

the chinese adopted a very different strategy of isolation and monitoring to italy.

italy in fact made a mis-step in the early stages of 'mitigation', by closing schools and universities. many young people carrying the disease with little or no symptoms returned home at once, near to their elderly parents and in many cases grandparents, which then killed them off en masse. china went the opposite way and sent people with even mild symptoms into isolation, away from their families.

Last edited by uziq (2020-05-01 06:28:34)

they probably don't, but neither evidently did jay, or any number of other groups. why are you singling them out?

'radically more infected', lol.

why aren't you happy that they're exterminating themselves?

they hardly integrate or mix with the regular community so it's, again, not like they are the main culprits of spreading it around.