i have to get up at like literally 7:30 tomorrow to drive to gatwick
whats in gatwick
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New engineers, chemists, industrial designers, and software developers are being hired up the ying yang all over here. Not just here in the States, but positions all over Asia as well. Including Australia. Just saying.
the uk doesn't have such a big industry for that. we're all services and finance. we don't really even have large-scale it anymore. great for you though if you're inclined towards the sciences and don't mind relocating, globally, in order to secure a full-time job.
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not as big as we used to be sure, but until recently BAE tied up looooads of jobs in high-tier engineering, and Astra Zeneca is still one of the worlds top pharma companies
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physics and chem grads in the uk at the moment suffer some of the highest unemployment rate. and something like 9% end up getting a job in their field, which says a lot. it alson has the highest instance of undergraduates taking MSc's or further study, because it's either too hard to find a graduate job or because seemingly the only way forward is to gain an extra level of qualification. sure the companies are there but the competition must be fierce, cause the statistics are pretty dire.
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Not to mention BP being one of the worlds largest oil companies requiring a constant influx of new engineering/science talent.FatherTed wrote:
not as big as we used to be sure, but until recently BAE tied up looooads of jobs in high-tier engineering, and Astra Zeneca is still one of the worlds top pharma companies
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i know a lot of science undergrads and bp isn't on any of their radars
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No offense uzique, but I doubt you're friendly with the types of people that actually go to work in engineering/science. Not with the way you spit on people that had to do homework instead of partying in college...
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a bunch of jerks i need to meetMutantbear wrote:
whats in gatwick
for a meeting
actually they aren't jerks they're pretty nice but i don't like mornings
ill go with you
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sigh. yeah i never did homework or put in any effort in college cause i was too busy partying all the time
i'm friends with lots of science and math undergrads. i don't stick to some clique of beret-wearing english libertines as you seem to imagine. we all mix here in the english system; we don't have that 'tribal' american high-school -> college thing going on where everyone sticks to some stupid pigeonhole. this uni has an oxford-level physics and science department and i know plenty of people doing masters in physics, chem, biochem, astrophysics, even one doing a phd in astrophysics. none of them are looking at big business graduate schemes.
i'm friends with lots of science and math undergrads. i don't stick to some clique of beret-wearing english libertines as you seem to imagine. we all mix here in the english system; we don't have that 'tribal' american high-school -> college thing going on where everyone sticks to some stupid pigeonhole. this uni has an oxford-level physics and science department and i know plenty of people doing masters in physics, chem, biochem, astrophysics, even one doing a phd in astrophysics. none of them are looking at big business graduate schemes.
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Having let industry decline, tertiary education expand to everyone, and millions of worthless imiigrants in the UK is in a fix.Uzique wrote:
come on though... i'd take a free thatcher-era university education over a fancy £600 iphone, anyday
it's not as if you missed technology and conveniences that weren't even invented yet
we however are dealing with huge loans and a lack of opportunity, knowing that our own PARENTS had a much better deal
pretty easy to be bitter
/fwp to the max
Being reliant on a fickle services 'industry', which has no industry to service, the fix is unfixable.
No wonder young Irish are emigrating like crazy.
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I have a week long Business Intelligence webinar that starts at 5:30am in January. I'm bearing it because it's damn well important for my projects.Dauntless wrote:
a bunch of jerks i need to meetMutantbear wrote:
whats in gatwick
for a meeting
actually they aren't jerks they're pretty nice but i don't like mornings
Physics and Chemistry are pretty useless, and have been for decades really.Uzique wrote:
physics and chem grads in the uk at the moment suffer some of the highest unemployment rate. and something like 9% end up getting a job in their field, which says a lot. it alson has the highest instance of undergraduates taking MSc's or further study, because it's either too hard to find a graduate job or because seemingly the only way forward is to gain an extra level of qualification. sure the companies are there but the competition must be fierce, cause the statistics are pretty dire.
Chemical Engineering is pretty handy.
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Yeah, I suspect his science friends are in it for the theory rather than the application side. Books over jobs. I have a nephew, albeit super smart, that was offered a six figure pharmaceutical job over a year before he graduated.Dilbert_X wrote:
Physics and Chemistry are pretty useless, and have been for decades really.Uzique wrote:
physics and chem grads in the uk at the moment suffer some of the highest unemployment rate. and something like 9% end up getting a job in their field, which says a lot. it alson has the highest instance of undergraduates taking MSc's or further study, because it's either too hard to find a graduate job or because seemingly the only way forward is to gain an extra level of qualification. sure the companies are there but the competition must be fierce, cause the statistics are pretty dire.
Chemical Engineering is pretty handy.
On my new 1900x1200 24" Ultrasharp monitor I can now see that most pornstars have quite bad skin.
I don't whether to cry for them or take off my glasses.
I don't whether to cry for them or take off my glasses.
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Maybe it's because you browse through the "mature" category?Dilbert_X wrote:
On my new 1900x1200 24" Ultrasharp monitor I can now see that most pornstars have quite bad skin.
I don't whether to cry for them or take off my glasses.
all fair criticisms, but not our generation's fault! i wholly condemn the upgrading of half-rate profession polytechnics to universities, too... but what can you do about it really? other than try to play a flawed system as best as you can.Dilbert_X wrote:
Having let industry decline, tertiary education expand to everyone, and millions of worthless imiigrants in the UK is in a fix.Uzique wrote:
come on though... i'd take a free thatcher-era university education over a fancy £600 iphone, anyday
it's not as if you missed technology and conveniences that weren't even invented yet
we however are dealing with huge loans and a lack of opportunity, knowing that our own PARENTS had a much better deal
pretty easy to be bitter
/fwp to the max
Being reliant on a fickle services 'industry', which has no industry to service, the fix is unfixable.
No wonder young Irish are emigrating like crazy.
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Seems to be across all categories, I can see they're covering it with makeup when before I couldn'tAR wrote:
Maybe it's because you browse through the "mature" category?
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The bane of IPS panels.Dilbert_X wrote:
Seems to be across all categories, I can see they're covering it with makeup when before I couldn'tAR wrote:
Maybe it's because you browse through the "mature" category?
yeah but where are you talking about, though? sounds like a drastically different job market to here in the UK. super competitive here and a 'starting' six-figure salary is pretty much unheard of in any profession. you talk as if the sciences are a global goldmine, but it really isn't.Ilocano wrote:
Yeah, I suspect his science friends are in it for the theory rather than the application side. Books over jobs. I have a nephew, albeit super smart, that was offered a six figure pharmaceutical job over a year before he graduated.Dilbert_X wrote:
Physics and Chemistry are pretty useless, and have been for decades really.Uzique wrote:
physics and chem grads in the uk at the moment suffer some of the highest unemployment rate. and something like 9% end up getting a job in their field, which says a lot. it alson has the highest instance of undergraduates taking MSc's or further study, because it's either too hard to find a graduate job or because seemingly the only way forward is to gain an extra level of qualification. sure the companies are there but the competition must be fierce, cause the statistics are pretty dire.
Chemical Engineering is pretty handy.
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i have to get up at like 7am to go to a dentist appointment at 8am to get my teeth cleaned and inspected thanks to dental insurance from my father's employer
Science has really never been good, except for a select few who are top of their game and take decades to get there, engineering and technology development are usually where the money is.
Unless you've done a ground-breaking PhD and have immense further potential you're not going to be getting a six figure starting salary.
Unless you've done a ground-breaking PhD and have immense further potential you're not going to be getting a six figure starting salary.
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