Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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And they also charge the vendor a commission.
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6730|Oxferd Ohire
I was given a very large bag of Reese's for my birthday. I'm beginning to think it's endless.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I have to send this unit in for a warranty claim. It was purchased at a Home Depot for around a hundred dollars or something. Anyway the interesting thing is that it was bought off of the fact that General Electric is a well known company who makes great products as opposed to the other no name junk on the display wall. See it has the general electric logo.
https://i.imgur.com/jwm8nCT_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
It turns out that General Electric has nothing to do with this thing. General Electric lost so much money on their banking and real estate division GE Capital that they had to sell their 115 year old GE Appliances to a Chinese company Haier in 2016. As part of the deal, Haier can stick GE's logo on anything they make until the year 2056.

Anyway this unit wasn't made by Haier either. It was made by an obscure company headquartered in Kentucky that I can't find any information about. They carry a line of GE labeled products. The unit still wasn't made in Kentucky either. The box clearly says made in China. So this company either is a masked subsidiary of China's Haier corporation or they stuck a deal to use GE's logo on a line of products whose production they then outsourced back to China.

Anyway my First World Problem: Corporate America sold us out to China.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6730|Oxferd Ohire
looks like it cost $5 to make
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unnamednewbie13
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From 2016

It's official: GE Appliances belongs to Haier
www.cnet.com/news/its-official-ge-appli … -to-haier/

There's been talk of GE selling its appliance division for at least eight years. Sweden-based Electrolux came close to buying GE Appliances for $3.3 billion in 2014, but the US Department of Justice objected to the deal last year on the grounds that a merger of two leading manufacturers of cooktops, ranges and wall ovens would reduce competition and options for consumers. GE quickly rebounded with the announcement that it would sell to Haier in January.
l o freaking l
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I have to send this unit in for a warranty claim. It was purchased at a Home Depot for around a hundred dollars or something. Anyway the interesting thing is that it was bought off of the fact that General Electric is a well known company who makes great products as opposed to the other no name junk on the display wall. See it has the general electric logo.

It turns out that General Electric has nothing to do with this thing. General Electric lost so much money on their banking and real estate division GE Capital that they had to sell their 115 year old GE Appliances to a Chinese company Haier in 2016. As part of the deal, Haier can stick GE's logo on anything they make until the year 2056.

Anyway this unit wasn't made by Haier either. It was made by an obscure company headquartered in Kentucky that I can't find any information about. They carry a line of GE labeled products. The unit still wasn't made in Kentucky either. The box clearly says made in China. So this company either is a masked subsidiary of China's Haier corporation or they stuck a deal to use GE's logo on a line of products whose production they then outsourced back to China.

Anyway my First World Problem: Corporate America sold us out to China.
what is the company in Kentucky? I can tell you who made those
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+635|3712

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

I have to send this unit in for a warranty claim. It was purchased at a Home Depot for around a hundred dollars or something. Anyway the interesting thing is that it was bought off of the fact that General Electric is a well known company who makes great products as opposed to the other no name junk on the display wall. See it has the general electric logo.

It turns out that General Electric has nothing to do with this thing. General Electric lost so much money on their banking and real estate division GE Capital that they had to sell their 115 year old GE Appliances to a Chinese company Haier in 2016. As part of the deal, Haier can stick GE's logo on anything they make until the year 2056.

Anyway this unit wasn't made by Haier either. It was made by an obscure company headquartered in Kentucky that I can't find any information about. They carry a line of GE labeled products. The unit still wasn't made in Kentucky either. The box clearly says made in China. So this company either is a masked subsidiary of China's Haier corporation or they stuck a deal to use GE's logo on a line of products whose production they then outsourced back to China.

Anyway my First World Problem: Corporate America sold us out to China.
what is the company in Kentucky? I can tell you who made those
Jasco

https://byjasco.com/
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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So there's only about 5-7 large manufacturers of IoT home devices, but those manufacturers produce white box solutions for many companies, including jasco. Jasco is who you need to bother. No company punts product issues to the manufacturer unless there are recalls or epidemic failures.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

Do you know if the device uses zigbee, zwave or regular wifi? You can search the first 6 digits of a Mac address to trace back to the original manufacturer, since mac addresses are registered by the manufacturer in most cases.

E: I just realized that isn't even a smart device. Why did you pay $100 for a motion light?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

So there's only about 5-7 large manufacturers of IoT home devices, but those manufacturers produce white box solutions for many companies, including jasco. Jasco is who you need to bother. No company punts product issues to the manufacturer unless there are recalls or epidemic failures.
Thank you checking.

I already emailed Jasco regarding the warranty. I am more interested if Jasco is an independent company or someone's subsidiary. I went through their website looking for the info and it is all vague "we help the community" stuff about them. Their Bloomberg and Business Wire articles contradict info on their "About Us".

Still the whole think is sketchy regarding Jasco using the GE name for their stuff. This unit's failure ruined GE Appliances for me and the people must know.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

E: I just realized that isn't even a smart device. Why did you pay $100 for a motion light?
My dad bought it. He probably saw it on the wall and thought since it was more expensive it must be higher quality than the cheaper ones. It does come with a 15 year warranty which none of the other ones I see for cheaper on Amazon have.

My parents have had home surveillance system since 2002 that he keeps adding to and upgrading. When we Zoom someday I will show you the video of my pool exploding that I edited together from 4 different cameras.
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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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why not show it now
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

I already saw your pool explode on your YouTube channel
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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RTHKI wrote:

why not show it now
I have a very distinct looking house. I posted the video to a local facebook group and the next day the UPS man told me sorry about my pool exploding.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
Why? I pay $30/yr to Ring. Seems like a good deal to me.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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This is Ken's most listened to song by the way.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
We don't use a home monitoring service. He brought a large recording and camera monitoring unit from a surveillance company. The unit is then plugged into our router. He can then log in through an app by connecting over IP.

Let me know if you can find it on Google.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

This is Ken's most listened to song by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo92iIPOYY4
you've linked your YouTube accounts here you dork
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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That doesn't give you the right to keep cyber bullying me. You are ruining my life.
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
Why? I pay $30/yr to Ring. Seems like a good deal to me.
Thats for a camera. Hardly the same thing as a smart home monitoring system. Ring has their own faults related to data privacy, but i wasn't including them in my statement.

The reality is that your video data is not as secure as you think it is. I'm not exactly sure how ring walls off customer data, but anyone that pays for cloud storage should operate under the assumption that the data is not private.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6625|949

SuperJail Warden wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
We don't use a home monitoring service. He brought a large recording and camera monitoring unit from a surveillance company. The unit is then plugged into our router. He can then log in through an app by connecting over IP.

Let me know if you can find it on Google.
I thought they had the arlo? Did they replace that? Or was that for your grandma or something?
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+635|3712

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
We don't use a home monitoring service. He brought a large recording and camera monitoring unit from a surveillance company. The unit is then plugged into our router. He can then log in through an app by connecting over IP.

Let me know if you can find it on Google.
I thought they had the arlo? Did they replace that? Or was that for your grandma or something?
I had to Google what the ARLO is. We never had that.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5351|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

smart home monitoring is a fucking sham. Never sign up for it
Why? I pay $30/yr to Ring. Seems like a good deal to me.
Thats for a camera. Hardly the same thing as a smart home monitoring system. Ring has their own faults related to data privacy, but i wasn't including them in my statement.

The reality is that your video data is not as secure as you think it is. I'm not exactly sure how ring walls off customer data, but anyone that pays for cloud storage should operate under the assumption that the data is not private.
I don't assume it's private at all, and I know Ring shares video with the police.

Smart homes in general are stupid, imo. Oh cool, I can control a light bulb with an app. I can set the temperature of my refrigerator with an app, and see the inventory that I manually scanned into the fucking computer. I have smart thermostats, but that's as far as I will likely go.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
unnamednewbie13
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Is the Smart Home a Dumb Choice in the End?
https://observer.com/2019/07/smart-home-dumb-choice/

excerpt wrote:

And then there are the creepy moments from the security camera. One cool, quiet Brooklyn night last fall, I was up late in the study chasing a deadline. Everyone in the house had been asleep for hours when my phone buzzed me out my writing zone.

“Alert: Person spotted in Living Room,” it read.

From where I sat at my computer, the aforementioned living room was directly behind me. Whatever my camera had spotted was, by my calculations, standing right behind me, silent. I scanned the video feed on my phone, looking for figures in the night-vision, seeing nothing. Had the “person” already made it behind me and out of the camera’s vision? Had my wife gone for a midnight glass of water? No, it couldn’t be that, I would have heard her.

What was behind me?

Nothing. It turned out to be a false alarm. This terrifying scenario has played out multiple times now. Sometimes, it happens while I’m traveling and I think my home is being robbed. Other times, it happens while I’m home like a “the call is coming from inside the house” chilling moment. Either way, whatever my camera thinks it sees, it has never picked up on a real intruder.
Also fun and spooky for employees or managers who have to go play rent-a-cop when the business alarm goes off in the middle of the night so the boss doesn't have to pay someone to do it. Of course you could say no, but then you wouldn't be a team player!

On the other hand, I do hope I get to someday do that other part mentioned where I can just tell my replicator to print some tea like Captain Picard.

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