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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

actually plenty of people 'want' to work with their hands. it may be hard labour - to some - but to others the idea of sitting in an office all day is torture. some people are not inclined to be literary or mathematical. some people are practical; they like to effect change through a satisfying day's graft. there isn't this rigid hierarchy of misery->pleasure where the comfy white-collar office jobs are higher on a scale of self-fulfillment. i know a few people that have opted to go into an art/craft, or take up carpentry, or even work manual labour on building sites and the like. i actually have a friend who graduated from university (with a biochem degree), but then took an artisan brick-making/laying/adornment type course afterwards. he's now in australia working in construction. he likes working with his hands and enjoys seeing tangible progress. what's wrong with that?

you guys are terrible faux-snobs. you're snobby without even having anything proper to be snobby about. not all people working in trades or in jobs involving labour are serving some sort of penury, like dumb beasts with nothing better to do. you just tell yourself that to feel better about the yawning chasm that is corporate work (cause it's fucking boring 99% of the time, let's face it).

Macbeth wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

actually plenty of people 'want' to work with their hands. it may be hard labour - to some - but to others the idea of sitting in an office all day is torture. some people are not inclined to be literary or mathematical. some people are practical; they like to effect change through a satisfying day's graft. there isn't this rigid hierarchy of misery->pleasure where the comfy white-collar office jobs are higher on a scale of self-fulfillment. i know a few people that have opted to go into an art/craft, or take up carpentry, or even work manual labour on building sites and the like. i actually have a friend who graduated from university (with a biochem degree), but then took an artisan brick-making/laying/adornment type course afterwards. he's now in australia working in construction. he likes working with his hands and enjoys seeing tangible progress. what's wrong with that?

you guys are terrible faux-snobs. you're snobby without even having anything proper to be snobby about. not all people working in trades or in jobs involving labour are serving some sort of penury, like dumb beasts with nothing better to do. you just tell yourself that to feel better about the yawning chasm that is corporate work (cause it's fucking boring 99% of the time, let's face it).

How am I being a snob when I said I have worked the trades after high school? I wasn't saying that people who go into trades are dumb. I am saying a ton go there because  they don't have the means to go the college route. That is why Jay's condensation is so wrong. Basically he is trying to make it sound like "they took the easy way out".

Jay wrote:

This is true. Many of my wife's family friends gave up jobs as stock brokers and the like because they didn't receive any fulfillment from it. One of my FIL's friends worked for twenty years as a broker and decided to give up one day and become a high-end carpenter. The stuff he creates is beautiful, and because of those twenty years, he's still got more money than he knows what to do with. Sitting in an office all day and dealing with peoples bullshit gets old.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jay wrote:

This is true. Many of my wife's family friends gave up jobs as stock brokers and the like because they didn't receive any fulfillment from it. One of my FIL's friends worked for twenty years as a broker and decided to give up one day and become a high-end carpenter. The stuff he creates is beautiful, and because of those twenty years, he's still got more money than he knows what to do with. Sitting in an office all day and dealing with peoples bullshit gets old.

Working on site gets old pretty quickly.
I've done both, I'm good with my hands and I'd really like to keep them uninjured.

Encyclopedia Dramatica wrote:

Typical Hipster

• The typical hipster is generally an unemployed, angry, self-loathing faggot in his late teens to early twenties. May openly claim to be trying to "discover his place in life."
• Many will claim to have lots of enemies and no close friends due to being "misunderstood." Be warned, this is merely a ploy to gain sympathy.
• Those not familiar with the culture will come to discover very quickly that most don't particularly enjoy the company of your typical hipster because he is an angst-ridden, narcissistic douchebag who bitches and moans about as much as your 13-year old sister.
• It will insist that you are a conformist for any variety of reasons. It will go as far to insinuate every living being on the planet is a conformist, the exception being himself.
• It may openly claim to dislike the hippie culture. This is hilariously ironic, as hippies are incredibly dirty and your typical hipster dresses like a homeless person, frequently carries an STD and rarely showers.
• It will have gone through several fads in high school before having settled on hipster. These may include, but are not limited to punk, scene, emo and goth.
• It does not have a concentrated attention span, and its interests are evenly distributed in the avant-garde, hip art, music, fashion, etc.
• It may carry an appreciation for European culture.
• It holds an odd fascination for really bad, cult indie films. Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" is no exception, ever. Seriously, this movie is like the Napoleon Dynamite of the hipster culture. Every fucking hipster and their grandmother quotes this shit endlessly.
• It may dress decadently, but not as overly indulgent and gay as the avant garde hipster.
• It will only listen to bands you've never heard of. If non-hipsters ever adopt this music, they will quickly lose interest
• It enjoys art and literature, but doesn't know fuck all about how to create either.
• It may claim to be an anarchist, nihilist or existentialist, but knows little to fuck all regarding the ideals behind any of aforementioned movements.
• Loafers are the designated footwear of hipster fashion. The loafers indicate that the hipster has successfully courted and stolen from an elderly man, retrieving their loafers as a prize.
• It must use aviator or Ray Ban knockoffs and other massive glasses to block out the sun
• It rides a "fixie" bike, i.e. a bike that can't coast and has no brakes, because conventional bikes and cars are too mainstream. May endlessly attempt to pound the notion into others that "he had a fixie before they were cool."
• It may express a sense of "ironic" enjoyment for bad '80s bands and unfashionable clothing, but it secretly actually likes some of that shit.
• If by some miracle it managed to get accepted into a university, it will most likely be found studying English, Philosophy, History, A Foreign Language, Graphic Design and various other concentrations in Art.
• It will always own an iPhone and other various Apple products. In fact, the majority of people who work in Mac Stores or for Apple tech support are in fact, hipsters.
• It is essentially a walking stereotype and due to this will carry with it no trace of a genuine personality or intellect outside of aforesaid traits.
• As a new trend of 2011, Hipsters of all kind just have to have a sort of fascination with the Galaxy/Space. But sadly enough, Hipsters don't have enough knowledge on why they like it. They only do because they like for its pretty colors, its oh-so-originality, and to try to hide the fact that they are all the same damn stereo-type.
• It always have to associate itself with its obsession with TRIANGLES. Probably from playing The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess way too often.
• After smoking pot, hipsters beat up 70 year olds for their loafers.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2013-02-06 01:06:05)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jay wrote:

This is true. Many of my wife's family friends gave up jobs as stock brokers and the like because they didn't receive any fulfillment from it. One of my FIL's friends worked for twenty years as a broker and decided to give up one day and become a high-end carpenter. The stuff he creates is beautiful, and because of those twenty years, he's still got more money than he knows what to do with. Sitting in an office all day and dealing with peoples bullshit gets old.

Working on site gets old pretty quickly.
I've done both, I'm good with my hands and I'd really like to keep them uninjured.

Then wear gloves and don't drop shit on them. Poor personal safety is what pissed off my grandpa and I about my dad. He's good about earplugs, but spotty about eye/face protection, doesn't wear steel toes and hardly ever wears leather work gloves even when he has them scattered all over the office, warehouse and trucks. Wore out his knees skiing but won't wear braces and wonders why they hurt when he hops out of the back of vehicles.

Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Working on site gets old pretty quickly.
I've done both, I'm good with my hands and I'd really like to keep them uninjured.

Then wear gloves and don't drop shit on them. Poor personal safety is what pissed off my grandpa and I about my dad. He's good about earplugs, but spotty about eye/face protection, doesn't wear steel toes and hardly ever wears leather work gloves even when he has them scattered all over the office, warehouse and trucks. Wore out his knees skiing but won't wear braces and wonders why they hurt when he hops out of the back of vehicles.

Brilliant, I never thought of that, I'll re-write the company H+S policy to read "Don't have any accidents or do anything strenuous or tiring".
Genius.

_j5689_ wrote:

You can't just store them on the phone memory and then move them when you get a new card?