BF2S Forums how to get a good night's sleep?

Exercise before you sleep. Works for me every time. Even if you just jog a mile or do something like 50 pushups/50 crunches.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Nic wrote:

Used to use it a bit, it is a little addictive, in that after I took it for a bit, I would need it to get to sleep quick. I've heard depressed people shouldn't take it either.

It occurs naturally in your body.

We've been over it repeatedly with my kid's doctors. It is completely safe. The worst thing that can happen is you can start building up a tolerance to it, and start requiring higher levels for effectiveness. But if you stop taking it, you don't experience withdrawal or anything (hence not addictive).

I suppose it could create a chemical dependency wherein your body manufactures less of a chemical that you're taking from external sources.

I asked my son's doctors that question specifically.

They said no.

FEOS wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

It occurs naturally in your body.

We've been over it repeatedly with my kid's doctors. It is completely safe. The worst thing that can happen is you can start building up a tolerance to it, and start requiring higher levels for effectiveness. But if you stop taking it, you don't experience withdrawal or anything (hence not addictive).

I suppose it could create a chemical dependency wherein your body manufactures less of a chemical that you're taking from external sources.

I asked my son's doctors that question specifically.

They said no.

Really? Sounded plausible enough not to be urban legend. Used to be nobody thought shock therapy was harmful, either. A doc wanted to prescribe me Prozac when I was a kid. Took one pill and called it quits.

e: From a site that actually supports it -

"The only possible problem that could be loosely considered a melatonin addiction would be if you are taking Melatonin for Sleep and you stop taking it, you could again have difficulty sleeping."

- http://www.easy-immune-health.com/melat … ction.html

Sounds like a dependency of some level to me.

e2: I'd say the best bet would be to improve the environment you sleep in before you resort to supplements.

The one on the right has melatonin as it's primary sleep inducer.. the other is some other bullshit homeopathic approach.

They're both fucking jokes.

Try Tylenol pm or unisom if you're going to medicate yourself. You're looking for Diphenhydramine HCL. If that doesn't work talk to the doc about Ambien (Zolpidem) or Lunesta. Lunesta doesn't do shit for me but make me dizzy and give me tunnel vision.. but everyone is biochemically different.

i have no trouble falling asleep, but i am a super light sleeper after i have been asleep for a few hrs. any way to fix that? i cant sleep in either. if i pass out at 5am, i am still always up by 9

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Regulate your sleep schedule and don't stay awake so late on purpose. Fix your diet and exercise. Do something passive before bed like reading something that isn't a monitor.

Conversely a workout before bed can help me slip into a state of complete exhaustion and slumber.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Sometimes I have trouble falling asleep, and when I do, I have some tea, it helps me relax for some reason.

Just a thought for you

Tea has caffeine in.

Diazepam.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I suppose it could create a chemical dependency wherein your body manufactures less of a chemical that you're taking from external sources.

I asked my son's doctors that question specifically.

They said no.

Really? Sounded plausible enough not to be urban legend. Used to be nobody thought shock therapy was harmful, either. A doc wanted to prescribe me Prozac when I was a kid. Took one pill and called it quits.

e: From a site that actually supports it -

"The only possible problem that could be loosely considered a melatonin addiction would be if you are taking Melatonin for Sleep and you stop taking it, you could again have difficulty sleeping."

- http://www.easy-immune-health.com/melat … ction.html

Sounds like a dependency of some level to me.

e2: I'd say the best bet would be to improve the environment you sleep in before you resort to supplements.

Read what it says.

You have difficulty sleeping beforehand. You start taking melatonin because of that. You start sleeping better. You stop taking melatonin. You start having difficulty sleeping again.

That's not dependence. Not in any way, shape, or form.

I agree that you should try everything else short of taking supplements beforehand. But if all else fails, melatonin is a far better option than sleeping pills--which are addictive.

I always have trouble sleeping in college. It's a terrible combination of an uncomfortable bed, noise in my suite, my roommate thinking I am able to sleep when he has his desklight (and then refusing to turn it off because it is "also (his) room"), and an inordinate amount of stress. Once the semester ends and I go home, I suddenly start sleeping well again. If you are mostly afflicted by racing thoughts, you should probably focus on ways to reduce those as the long term solution, rather than melatonin or other supplements.

FEOS wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I asked my son's doctors that question specifically.

They said no.

Really? Sounded plausible enough not to be urban legend. Used to be nobody thought shock therapy was harmful, either. A doc wanted to prescribe me Prozac when I was a kid. Took one pill and called it quits.

e: From a site that actually supports it -

"The only possible problem that could be loosely considered a melatonin addiction would be if you are taking Melatonin for Sleep and you stop taking it, you could again have difficulty sleeping."

- http://www.easy-immune-health.com/melat … ction.html

Sounds like a dependency of some level to me.

e2: I'd say the best bet would be to improve the environment you sleep in before you resort to supplements.

Read what it says.

You have difficulty sleeping beforehand. You start taking melatonin because of that. You start sleeping better. You stop taking melatonin. You start having difficulty sleeping again.

That's not dependence. Not in any way, shape, or form.

I agree that you should try everything else short of taking supplements beforehand. But if all else fails, melatonin is a far better option than sleeping pills--which are addictive.

I used to take it when I was doing lots of shift work, eventually it got to the point where I was regulating my sleep by taking melatonin when I wanted to sleep and coffee when I wanted to wake up. Even after weeks on the same schedule I found I would have to take it to sleep unless I was totally exhausted. The mental dependancy was laying there wondering if I was gonna need it to get to sleep, and that thinking would keep me awake.

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

I want to sleep in space.