Rick Perry, Republican Presidential candidate

2011-11-25 20:11:57

#251

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:
Kmar wrote:
He isn't saying that we're currently now inferior to China in terms of Naval supremacy. There is nothing funny or false about what he said. China is building it's influence in the Pacific. That is a fact. .. and he's saying that we can't afford to be tooling around.
His sabre rattling to drum up feelings of patriotism. Simple as.

You must have missed that part where he said we can't do it.. and the insinuations that we need to pull back (actually he said flat out that we need to pull back and take care of our country). He even mocked the tempation to "stick our fingers in the chest of the Chinese and tell them what a bunch of baddass's we are". You've obviously got a predetermined opinion. That's the only way your replies make any sense.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-11-25 20:12:11

#252

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6969|Purplicious Wisconsin

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:
I'm just wondering when the day will come when China and USA finally have a fucking war with eachother.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Developed nations just don't go to war with each other these days. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also more importantly they already did. In 1950.

Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2011-11-25 20:18:21

#253

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6724

War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:
I'm just wondering when the day will come when China and USA finally have a fucking war with eachother.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Developed nations just don't go to war with each other these days. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also more importantly they already did. In 1950.
Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.

Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.

2011-11-25 20:22:07

#254

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6969|Purplicious Wisconsin

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Developed nations just don't go to war with each other these days. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also more importantly they already did. In 1950.
Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.
Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.

They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2011-11-25 20:22:25

#255

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6408|what

Kmar wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Kmar wrote:
He isn't saying that we're currently now inferior to China in terms of Naval supremacy. There is nothing funny or false about what he said. China is building it's influence in the Pacific. That is a fact. .. and he's saying that we can't afford to be tooling around.
His sabre rattling to drum up feelings of patriotism. Simple as.
You must have missed that part where he said we can't do it.. and the insinuations that we need to pull back (actually he said flat out that we need to pull back and take care of our country). He even mocked the tempation to "stick our fingers in the chest of the Chinese and tell them what a bunch of baddass's we are". You've obviously got a predetermined opinion. That's the only way your replies make any sense.

His argument as to why "We can't do it anymore" is that the country is broke. There was no argument from him saying that telling the Chinese what basasses you are lead to the problem. Or that that sort of action should be the norm.

If we weren't broke we'd be able to tell the Chinese we're not to be messed with, like we used to - that was his argument from what I took.

2011-11-25 20:25:00

#256

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6972

War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:

Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.
Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.
They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.

I think warman will one day be an excellent general on fighting the chinese.

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2011-11-25 20:27:44

#257

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6969|Purplicious Wisconsin

Cybargs wrote:
War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.
They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.
I think warman will one day be an excellent general on fighting the chinese.

Funny sarcasm.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2011-11-25 20:30:39

#258

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:
Kmar wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
His sabre rattling to drum up feelings of patriotism. Simple as.
You must have missed that part where he said we can't do it.. and the insinuations that we need to pull back (actually he said flat out that we need to pull back and take care of our country). He even mocked the tempation to "stick our fingers in the chest of the Chinese and tell them what a bunch of baddass's we are". You've obviously got a predetermined opinion. That's the only way your replies make any sense.
His argument as to why "We can't do it anymore" is that the country is broke. There was no argument from him saying that telling the Chinese what basasses you are lead to the problem. Or that that sort of action should be the norm.

If we weren't broke we'd be able to tell the Chinese we're not to be messed with, like we used to - that was his argument from what I took.

The why is very important in his point. Our financial distress is a sobering fact that Americans need to realize. He made no specific mention of what we should have been doing in the past, although it reasonable to think that he's being critical of past spending with his "we're flat on our ass broke" remark. And like I said, couple that with his mocking of our in-your-face attitude, I really don't see how he's sabre rattling. Can we not make any mention of improving our country without being accused of unneeded patriotism now?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-11-25 20:39:04

#259

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6408|what

By all means improve the country. But using the argument that we can't even stand up to the Chinese like we used to, is looking at it from the wrong direction, imo.

Compare the education standards, public works, employment etc

2011-11-25 20:44:30

#260

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6972

AussieReaper wrote:
By all means improve the country. But using the argument that we can't even stand up to the Chinese like we used to, is looking at it from the wrong direction, imo.

Compare the education standards, public works, employment etc

lol china and standards

2011-11-25 20:46:06

#261

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:
By all means improve the country. But using the argument that we can't even stand up to the Chinese like we used to, is looking at it from the wrong direction, imo.

Compare the education standards, public works, employment etc

That was but a minute or two example of what we should not be doing. Again, I don't understand how saying we can't do it and that we need to pull back and take care of our country, which I assumed meant focusing on other goals (ie standards, public works, employment etc ), is somehow construed as sabre rattling.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-11-25 20:49:59

#262

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

Cybargs wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
By all means improve the country. But using the argument that we can't even stand up to the Chinese like we used to, is looking at it from the wrong direction, imo.

Compare the education standards, public works, employment etc
lol china and standards

I didn't know china had a minimum wage until recently. I don't know why I assumed otherwise. I guess my thinking and image of Chinese sweatshops/poor working conditions was inclusive to not have a min wage. I recently read an article about how much it has increased over the last few years.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-11-25 21:09:09

#263

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6255|Vortex Ring State

War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:

Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.
Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.
They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.

I am totally qualified to speak on this subject, my grandfather served in Korea, in the PLA.

China's troops had poor morale in general, very poor equipment, and suffered casualties due to the cold.

Human wave attacks were the only logical decision for the PLA. They lacked the communication and logistics to coordinate attacks more effectively. Combined with the large size of their army, it's the logical tactical choice to make.

2011-11-25 21:32:51

#264

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6970|US

Trotskygrad wrote:
War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Holy shit, the Korean War was a fucking stalemate. The PRC was barely a year old when it happened, had hardly any industry and was suffering from food shortages. They were armed with shit that the Germans sold them during the 19 fucking 20s and they still managed to fight to a stalemate. Fuck you.
They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.
I am totally qualified to speak on this subject, my grandfather served in Korea, in the PLA.

China's troops had poor morale in general, very poor equipment, and suffered casualties due to the cold.

Human wave attacks were the only logical decision for the PLA. They lacked the communication and logistics to coordinate attacks more effectively. Combined with the large size of their army, it's the logical tactical choice to make.

The US's logical choice was to destroy their manpower with our firepower. Thus, the popularity of the "Van Fleet Load."

2011-11-25 21:45:32

#265

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6255|Vortex Ring State

RAIMIUS wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
War Man wrote:

They also had a big fucking army to make up for it and blindly charged all together like a bunch of morons while our artillery blew them to bits. Only was a real stalemate due to a pussy ass president.
I am totally qualified to speak on this subject, my grandfather served in Korea, in the PLA.

China's troops had poor morale in general, very poor equipment, and suffered casualties due to the cold.

Human wave attacks were the only logical decision for the PLA. They lacked the communication and logistics to coordinate attacks more effectively. Combined with the large size of their army, it's the logical tactical choice to make.
The US's logical choice was to destroy their manpower with our firepower. Thus, the popularity of the "Van Fleet Load."

exactly, hence the situation war man posed... It's not because the PLA was idiots.

2011-11-26 05:23:25

#266

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6666|'Murka

AussieReaper wrote:
Kmar wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
lol @ 2.26 forward
http://news.businessweek.com/article.as … Q6T524VL1C
Better spend more on the Navy. China has subs too!

Pretty sure you're already well ahead in terms of Naval supremacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_ … _worldwide

There's 11 aircraft carriers to China's 1, for example.

Article is about countering Chinese sub buildup with more anti-sub capabilities.

And you bring up aircraft carriers?

Derp.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-11-26 06:09:33

#267

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6408|what

I said naval supremacy.

Reading comprehension ftw.

2011-11-26 06:10:19

#268

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6361|eXtreme to the maX

Aren't aircraft carriers the most capable anti-submarine part of the average fleet with their submarine-hunting helicopters?

Used to be the case for the British Navy.

Fuck Israel

2011-11-26 21:28:29

#269

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6666|'Murka

AussieReaper wrote:
I said naval supremacy.

Reading comprehension ftw.

Reading comprehension would be realizing the point of the article.

@ Dilbert: best anti-submarine capability is another sub.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-11-26 23:49:18

#270

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6361|eXtreme to the maX

Really? I thought the most cost-effective anti-sub capability was a carrier with helicopters dropping sonobuoys all over.

Fuck Israel

2011-11-27 05:43:23

#271

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5613|London, England

War Man wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
War Man wrote:
I'm just wondering when the day will come when China and USA finally have a fucking war with eachother.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Developed nations just don't go to war with each other these days. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also more importantly they already did. In 1950.
Well aware of the Korean war and the massive casualties we inflicted on them with our firepower. Just wondering when the fucking present day war will happen, as for developed nations not going to war with eachother these days, that can change.

Why would you want it to, moron? You do understand that the reason developed nations don't go to war with each other is because we all have nukes pointed at each other, yes? Stop being retarded.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-11-27 08:49:02

#272

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6666|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
Really? I thought the most cost-effective anti-sub capability was a carrier with helicopters dropping sonobuoys all over.

Well, you've shown your in-depth expertise at all things military before...

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-12-09 23:00:32

#273

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

Rick Perry’s New anti-Gay Ad Is Now The Most Disliked Video On Youtube

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-12-10 03:57:05

#274

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6361|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Really? I thought the most cost-effective anti-sub capability was a carrier with helicopters dropping sonobuoys all over.
Well, you've shown your in-depth expertise at all things military before...

Wrong countries invaded by me: 0

Fuck Israel

2011-12-10 05:43:00

#275

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7027|PNW

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