You sure that's what you mean?Cybargs wrote:
don't Norwegian jails make American jails look like hotels?Varegg wrote:
A quick death for this guy is a reward, spending the rest of his life in prison is much worse ...Cybargs wrote:
thought you guys were vikings lel
Don't know the quality of US jails but even if, would you be comfortable living the rest of your life in a very small hotel room?Cybargs wrote:
don't Norwegian jails make American jails look like hotels?Varegg wrote:
A quick death for this guy is a reward, spending the rest of his life in prison is much worse ...Cybargs wrote:
thought you guys were vikings lel
This.Varegg wrote:
Don't know the quality of US jails but even if, would you be comfortable living the rest of your life in a very small hotel room?Cybargs wrote:
don't Norwegian jails make American jails look like hotels?Varegg wrote:
A quick death for this guy is a reward, spending the rest of his life in prison is much worse ...
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idk afaik dont they have internet access, xbox's and all sorts of shit too? unless hes in max security solitary confinement for the rest of his life then yeah sure.Jenspm wrote:
This.Varegg wrote:
Don't know the quality of US jails but even if, would you be comfortable living the rest of your life in a very small hotel room?Cybargs wrote:
don't Norwegian jails make American jails look like hotels?
TVs, internet access etc etc are perks you can get after good behaviour, you can also loose those perks if you don't behave ... you can apply for education and all sort of stuff in addition to this but it all comes down to behaviour ...Cybargs wrote:
idk afaik dont they have internet access, xbox's and all sorts of shit too? unless hes in max security solitary confinement for the rest of his life then yeah sure.Jenspm wrote:
This.Varegg wrote:
Don't know the quality of US jails but even if, would you be comfortable living the rest of your life in a very small hotel room?
but there is a difference in not executing a man for a worst punishment compared to giving a life sentence because executions are considered inhumane
Have you accepted that this guy is Norwegian yet?lowing wrote:
back it up a bit junior, I asked twice for you to tell me what I had down played, you refuse to answer it. Nothin I can do about that, I figure you will tell me when you come up with something.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Hard to answer someone if they keep asking for clarification each time you clarify, then accuse you of not having an answer when you get tired of repeating yourself.
I guess I could that in mind next time you create a thread.
The judge can normally over rule this by obeying the spirit of the law rather than the letter. Used a lot for cases that happened 20+ years ago where the sentencing guidelines were vastly different.Jenspm wrote:
Because he committed the crime before thatmenzo wrote:
i dont think he is convicted before that, so why cant they?Jenspm wrote:
Nope, that sentence will be put in place 1/1/2012, so he can't be punished under it.
Not sure I want to keep answering this tbhFEOS wrote:
When did 21 years = the rest of one's life for a 32 year old?
nvm...just saw Varegg's post clarifying that law.Jenspm wrote:
Not sure I want to keep answering this tbhFEOS wrote:
When did 21 years = the rest of one's life for a 32 year old?
since I have never made any claims that he wasn't Norwegian, and specifically stated that this guy did this attack because he was pissed off about immigration polices and that he wanted to keep Norway Norwegian, I think I have shown that I understand he wasn't Muslim.Dilbert_X wrote:
Have you accepted that this guy is Norwegian yet?lowing wrote:
back it up a bit junior, I asked twice for you to tell me what I had down played, you refuse to answer it. Nothin I can do about that, I figure you will tell me when you come up with something.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Hard to answer someone if they keep asking for clarification each time you clarify, then accuse you of not having an answer when you get tired of repeating yourself.
I guess I could that in mind next time you create a thread.
Or do we have to provide proof he's not a muslim in a rubber white-man suit?
YOu are the one twisting facts in your attempt to paint this a religious attack. It wasn't.Dilbert_X wrote:
You've managed to take the fact that he wanted to keep Norway christian and was against muslim immigration and remove the key parts of it and turned it around so he's just a regular secular norwegian who doesn't like immigration, muslim or otherwise.
Why not twist the facts so he becomes a muslim who hates christians?
It would an equally valid logical deduction from the available information.
actually I didn't tell you that. the terrorist told you that. Here is a news flash. You don't have to be religious to be prejudice against a race, or a religion, or anything for that matter, and just because he believes in god does not mean he did this in the name of god, he clearly stated he did this because Norway was loosing its identity, and that is not a religious motive.Shocking wrote:
In his manifest he states he wants a new crusade to re-conquer Europe with christian values and to drive out the muslims. He lists the pope as one of his great examples and sees himself as a martyr for the justicar knights templar order or some shit like that. The cover of his manifest has the cross of the Knight Templars on it, which was the most powerful christian military order during the crusades. He wants to reunite the protestant and catholic churches through very conservative christian values.
And you tell me there's no christian motives or reasoning? You're either joking or blatantly lying. Usually you don't even need proof to brand a muslim as motivated by Islam whenever they do something bad but somehow here all that is "irrelevant"? He's probably as religious as they come in Europe.
translation....give a minute a gotta think about that one. lolDilbert_X wrote:
You're mad.
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How about you just address the post and explain away what the terrorists said his motives were, a politcal attck against his own govt. over immigration polices..Dilbert_X wrote:
There's nothing to think about, you're prejudiced and delusional well beyond any normal scale, sorry.
Have you thought about starting your own religion?
He wanted to renew the medieval crusades against muslims and firmly rooted his ideology in christian thought & history. If that's not advocating a religious war the muslim terrorists who shout allah akbar certainly aren't religiously motivated either.lowing wrote:
actually I didn't tell you that. the terrorist told you that. Here is a news flash. You don't have to be religious to be prejudice against a race, or a religion, or anything for that matter, and just because he believes in god does not mean he did this in the name of god, he clearly stated he did this because Norway was loosing its identity, and that is not a religious motive.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 3#p3475263DrunkFace wrote:
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=3475233#p3475233
What he WANTED to do and what he did are different. He acted alone here, this wasn't the crusade he was referring to. He clearly stated that this attack had nothing to do with Christianity. Period.Shocking wrote:
He wanted to renew the medieval crusades against muslims and firmly rooted his ideology in christian thought & history. If that's not advocating a religious war the muslim terrorists who shout allah akbar certainly aren't religiously motivated either.lowing wrote:
actually I didn't tell you that. the terrorist told you that. Here is a news flash. You don't have to be religious to be prejudice against a race, or a religion, or anything for that matter, and just because he believes in god does not mean he did this in the name of god, he clearly stated he did this because Norway was loosing its identity, and that is not a religious motive.
