Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6378|...
I give up.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7054|Canberra, AUS
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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Shocking wrote:

I give up.
It is what it is, an attack against his own govt. regarding immigration policy, not a fuckin Christian jihad against Islam and the ME. No need to to paint it as anything more in order to turn the blow torch away from Islamic terrorism.

Last edited by lowing (2011-07-25 06:16:26)

Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5558|Sydney

Shocking wrote:

I give up.
Something to lighten the mood - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p3175338
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Heading into town this evening to do the rose march, should be good. They are expecting somewhere between 50 000 and 100 000 people to show up, which is pretty impressive in a city of 500 000.

The city center this morning:

https://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/25/1311590578332_27.jpg
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Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6378|...

lowing wrote:

Shocking wrote:

I give up.
It is what it is, an attack against his own govt. regarding immigration policy, not a fuckin Christian jihad against Islam and the ME. No need to to paint it as anything more in order to turn the blow torch away from Islamic terrorism.
I'm not blowing the torch anywhere. I've been trying to state that there are striking similarities in both forms of terrorists and thus I feel it's illogical to brand one as being solely 'religious' and the other as 'political'.

Meh, I'm done.
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lowing
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Shocking wrote:

lowing wrote:

Shocking wrote:

I give up.
It is what it is, an attack against his own govt. regarding immigration policy, not a fuckin Christian jihad against Islam and the ME. No need to to paint it as anything more in order to turn the blow torch away from Islamic terrorism.
I'm not blowing the torch anywhere. I've been trying to state that there are striking similarities in both forms of terrorists and thus I feel it's illogical to brand one as being solely 'religious' and the other as 'political'.

Meh, I'm done.
THen why the snap judgements in the beginning of this thread claiming it was religious, he was religious, SEE SEE Islam isn't the only ones doing terrorism?

People want this to be a religiously motivated attack so bad they can taste it, and for what, so they can cite something other than a 1000 year old crusade to defend Islam.

Sorry, not this time. as I said this was an attack on his govt. over immigration policy of his country, not a holy war against Muslims and the the ME.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
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Wasn't doing that, don't know. I was actually defending the Al Qaeda speculation.

Personally, I see little difference in between him and a young Osama, apart from the facts that the latter was much more intelligent, charismatic and so on.
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lowing
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Shocking wrote:

Wasn't doing that, don't know. I was actually defending the Al Qaeda speculation.

Personally, I see little difference in between him and a young Osama, apart from the facts that the latter was much more intelligent, charismatic and so on.
but you do know the posts I was talking about? Even started cussing me at the mere suggestion we wait until we know his reasoning for doing what he did.

I see plenty of difference, one hates his own govt. the other hates everyone else non Islamic.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Osama started out by hating his own government too.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
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+1,662|7031|USA

Spark wrote:

Osama started out by hating his own government too.
Look if you guys wanna paint this guy out to be a Christian OBL fine go for it,  I can't really blame you, at least then you can have some form of argument in your defense of Islam other than the crusades. I only wish for your argument sake, he had state sponsored funding, and Christian leader support as well as people dancing in the streets for what he did, but he doesn't, so you will just have to take what you can get I suppose.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Ruling: Berivik in custody for 8 weeks, with complete isolation (no contact or media of any sort) for 4 of them.
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Shocking
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Complete isolation for 4 of them? Who?
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Four of the weeks, I mean
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Shocking
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So he will get media attention after 4 weeks? oh boy
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Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6378|...
oh wait no I misunderstood. Got it. No media at all & 4 weeks complete isolation.

Does that mean he'll be walking with the normal prison population after the first 4 weeks? Here's hoping someone will off him.
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Can't keep someone isolated forever, y'know..
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Besides, he's isolated for the sake of the investigation, not because of his views.
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

Also, it was made clear that his motivation was not at all based on Christianity, but Anti-Islam. His religion wasn't a topic at all, it seems.

He did it to save Norway from the Labour government that has ruined the country (by allowing muslims freely into the country - shock, horror!), his goal was to punish them as hard as possible to stop recruitment.
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Shocking
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That's surprising considering what his manifesto looks like.
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ghostinvisiblex7
Mr Southbeach.
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damn psychotic people in this world.. its soo sad that there is more evil in this world, and very little good!
im not trying to be a preacher / goody two shoes christian here but this is a pain in the ass to see crap like this on CNN or ABC news.
someone once said to me: every person has a choice?

bring good to this world or bring evil!!!!!!
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Jaekus
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ghostinvisiblex7 wrote:

damn psychotic people in this world.. its soo sad that there is more evil in this world, and very little good!
im not trying to be a preacher / goody two shoes christian here but this is a pain in the ass to see crap like this on CNN or ABC news.
someone once said to me: every person has a choice?

bring good to this world or bring evil!!!!!!
Look up what being psychotic actually means before posting please.
As someone who works in psychiatric disability I feel the need to point out there is a VAST difference between someone who is psychotic and someone who is a psychopath.
lowing
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Jenspm wrote:

Also, it was made clear that his motivation was not at all based on Christianity, but Anti-Islam. His religion wasn't a topic at all, it seems.

He did it to save Norway from the Labour government that has ruined the country (by allowing muslims freely into the country - shock, horror!), his goal was to punish them as hard as possible to stop recruitment.
ya don't say. boy  I bet you guys are hatin' that.

Last edited by lowing (2011-07-25 08:08:23)

Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7111|St. Andrews / Oslo

lowing wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Also, it was made clear that his motivation was not at all based on Christianity, but Anti-Islam. His religion wasn't a topic at all, it seems.

He did it to save Norway from the Labour government that has ruined the country (by allowing muslims freely into the country - shock, horror!), his goal was to punish them as hard as possible to stop recruitment.
ya don't say. boy  I bet you guys are hatin' that.
Hatin' in an impressively peaceful way, I'd say.

To quote a German newspaper: "Even in their deepest sorrow the norwegians don't get hysterical. They resist the hate. It is amazing to see how politicians and the whole country reacts. They are sad to the deepest thread of their souls. They cry in dignity. But nobody swears to take revenge. Instead they want even more humanity and democracy. That is one of the most remarkable strengths of that little country."
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