Dilbert_X
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13rin wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

13rin wrote:

Why on earth would I ever what to go there?
Dunno, to learn English?
I type faster than you think.
No, you type faster than you think.

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SEREMAKER wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Why even bother to consider merging the Army and the Air Force? The administrative overhead just wouldn't be worth it.
yeah it would be, the DOD budget wouldn't be the gigantic $ as it is


take a 100& of the airforce, shave 50% off and divide the other 50% between Army and Navy .... sounds easy doesn't, well it is

Army re-establishes the Army Airforce, they expand the airwing division to accommodate an influx of new personal and planes

Navy expands their branch to absorb new personal and take over airforce bases that are along the seaboard both stateside and overseas

close down all other Airforce Bases - Airforce Academy stays but now is Army/Navy Academy

Air National Guard stays but is listed under Army


of course all personal would not be transferring over to either branch


would it be a hair pulling experience, yes but thats life
Not that simple, dude.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Why even bother to consider merging the Army and the Air Force? The administrative overhead just wouldn't be worth it.
yeah it would be, the DOD budget wouldn't be the gigantic $ as it is


take a 100& of the airforce, shave 50% off and divide the other 50% between Army and Navy .... sounds easy doesn't, well it is

Army re-establishes the Army Airforce, they expand the airwing division to accommodate an influx of new personal and planes

Navy expands their branch to absorb new personal and take over airforce bases that are along the seaboard both stateside and overseas

close down all other Airforce Bases - Airforce Academy stays but now is Army/Navy Academy

Air National Guard stays but is listed under Army


of course all personal would not be transferring over to either branch


would it be a hair pulling experience, yes but thats life
Not that simple, dude.
figure of speech, of course its not like flipping a switch

they handled opening a new branch just fine when they left the Army




I really don't get why so many people have to be a negative nancy
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Dilbert_X
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Air supremacy is entirely different to ground support, rolling ground support back into the Army would make sense, they don't need hypersonic radar-radar invisible flying saucers made of gold for that so it would be a cost saver too.
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How about we stop paying 19 year old bitches on their 3rd kid money and tell 'em to go fk themselves?

Welfare = shit, this isn't Europe, capitalism, or gtfo
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

How about we stop paying 19 year old bitches on their 3rd kid money and tell 'em to go fk themselves?

Welfare = shit, this isn't Europe, capitalism, or gtfo
Dilbert_X
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Not sure how cutting the social welfare budget to support the military social welfare budget makes sense but there you go.

At least 19 year old bitches are productive.
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Support military social welfare? Since when is paying a soldier for his service considered welfare? So now every service man is living off of welfare? Let me remind you that they're being paid to be productive. They work, and get paid, just like you do.
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They're only 'productive' when fighting wars, and wars aren't exactly productive.
Outside wartime the military is as productive as a ghetto full of pregnant crack-whores on welfare.
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SEREMAKER wrote:

I really don't get why so many people have to be a negative nancy
I'm not being negative. I just don't see how it would be a good idea. By the time the brass got done ripping one another's throats, the bases were reconfigured, budgeting was reworked out and all the nightmarish red tape that would go along with merging the two branches, you might as well not have done it at all. So no, I don't think that's worth doing. There are plenty of other ways to streamline military budget.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

They're only 'productive' when fighting wars, and wars aren't exactly productive.
Outside wartime the military is as productive as a ghetto full of pregnant crack-whores on welfare.
Outside of the warzone they are training for war, which is productive; they are doing details, and keeping the base in shape, which is productive; they are keeping themselves in shape, which is necessary for service men to do in order to be more productive, and that's productive ; etc...
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Maybe you're using some definition of productive I'm unaware of.

Are they producing or consuming?

If I hired a bunch of guys to run in circles around a building full of mothballed moon-lander equipment for a year would that be productive?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Maybe you're using some definition of productive I'm unaware of.

Are they producing or consuming?

If I hired a bunch of guys to run in circles around a building full of mothballed moon-lander equipment for a year would that be productive?
Your definition is fucked. You wiped the entire service industry out of your equation. Only factory workers are productive eh? Idiot.
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Dilbert_X
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Service industry services productive industries so is part of the system.

Who does the military service?

No-one.
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Jay
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Service industry services productive industries so is part of the system.

Who does the military service?

No-one.
Protects private property and human lives just like cops and firefighters.
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Shocking
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They help in any national disaster be it man made or natural (see Japan quake, over 100,000 Japanese soldiers helped in the relief, as did a US carrier group). Forest fires etc, not to mention to provide security and fight a war if need be.

Furthermore, if you want to fight a war properly constant training and revision of the tactics / gear used is necessary. If it's peacetime the military doesn't just sit on its behind.

You have to be trolling, this is by far one of the dumbest things you've ever stated on the forum.
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As I mentioned in the other thread, the majority - or at least a very large proportion - of R&D work in the West is done by the military. That alone is pretty important.
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Jay
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Shocking wrote:

They help in any national disaster be it man made or natural (see Japan quake, over 100,000 Japanese soldiers helped in the relief, as did a US carrier group). Forest fires etc, not to mention to provide security and fight a war if need be.

Furthermore, if you want to fight a war properly constant training and revision of the tactics / gear used is necessary. If it's peacetime the military doesn't just sit on its behind.

You have to be trolling, this is by far one of the dumbest things you've ever stated on the forum.
He is trolling, yes.
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Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Service industry services productive industries so is part of the system.

Who does the military service?

No-one.
Protects private property and human lives just like cops and firefighters.
They aren't really productive either, any more than insurance salesmen, they're a necessary evil.

A huge bloated military is not.

Its pretty rare for the military to get involved in natural disaster either, and doesn't justify having them sitting on their bums waiting for the Russians to fire ICBMs.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-07-10 06:00:57)

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its not rare at all for the military to be used for natural disasters.
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get rid of the USMC, call em naval infantry.  keep the airforce.  get rid of the coast guard.  get rid of the dept of homeland security.
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Shocking
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I don't really understand the USMC, it's like a miniature army. Very different from what we call marines.
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unnamednewbie13
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Shocking wrote:

I don't really understand the USMC, it's like a miniature army.
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Shocking
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What? They've got all sorts of heavy equipment which you don't usually expect in an amphibious/fast deployment unit. Tanks, very large arty installations, their own aircraft etc. The USMC can fight a conventional war on its own.
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