were you "resting your case" again?Jaekus wrote:
Of course once again this is the situation:Uzique wrote:
present to you, LOWINGFerrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.
I just did on once more
eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
ok just checkin'Jaekus wrote:
I just did on once more
eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
Don't make me go all red wine on you.Jaekus wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I like beer too.
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
Fuck Israel
He likes to acknowledge the stats he likes and ignore the others he doesn't.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
No Dilbert,I have acknowledged the points made about the USA's fallen status in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
But you have a greater risk of being a victim than I do because in my country I am allowed to defend myself.
Something you really gotta get over, most of us will never be a victim of crime, and we will live our entire lives without having any run in with the judicial system or criminals. I just go to work, come home to my 3000 sq ft home with 4 bedrooms a theater room, 2 full kitchens ( gotta have a kitchen next to my theater room, screw walking all the way back upstairs for a snack) in my acre country mountain setting. On week ends we might go shooting or rc plane flying, maybe take a weekend trip to some historical town ( we love staying in hotels as well) Talk about a quality life. What a "bizarre" way to live.
Tell me, how hard is it to turn around in one of those "flats" or living right below someone else?
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You have never posted any stats that put rehab in a favorable light, you do know that right?Jaekus wrote:
He likes to acknowledge the stats he likes and ignore the others he doesn't.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
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Of course I didlowing wrote:
You have never posted any stats that put rehab in a favorable light, you do know that right?Jaekus wrote:
He likes to acknowledge the stats he likes and ignore the others he doesn't.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
Once again you've proven my point, and I rest my case
Yeah you are right, I forgot a 36% failure rate is a success in your line of work. Or what was it, a 64% of "evidence of positive treatment"? Fuck, you can't even say success without lying, you gotta call it "evidence of positive treatment" lolJaekus wrote:
Of course I didlowing wrote:
You have never posted any stats that put rehab in a favorable light, you do know that right?Jaekus wrote:
He likes to acknowledge the stats he likes and ignore the others he doesn't.
Once again you've proven my point, and I rest my case
how many times can you really "rest your case", I always thought it was once.
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lol again I dunno why you think I work in rehab old man.lowing wrote:
Yeah you are right, I forgot a 36% failure rate is a success in your line of work. Or what was it, a 64% of "evidence of positive treatment"? Fuck, you can't even say success without lying, you gotta call it "evidence of positive treatment" lolJaekus wrote:
Of course I didlowing wrote:
You have never posted any stats that put rehab in a favorable light, you do know that right?
Once again you've proven my point, and I rest my case
how many times can you really "rest your case", I always thought it was once.
The experts are all agreeing it works and is improving to be more effective as time goes on and methods are tweaked and improved. But yeah, you can't admit that one either. Kinda like how I pulled out stats in that other thread about gay marriage and you dismissed, denied and then ran away with your tail between your legs when you couldn't find any rebuttal.
Which is:
eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
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lol, you didn't deny the "evidence of positive treatment" bullshit, but you did acknowledge it was directed toward rehab and it was the "experts" who are claiming "it works". Man, you are right again, in your line of work, you are free from any measurable productivity or success. I forgot that.Jaekus wrote:
lol again I dunno why you think I work in rehab old man.lowing wrote:
Yeah you are right, I forgot a 36% failure rate is a success in your line of work. Or what was it, a 64% of "evidence of positive treatment"? Fuck, you can't even say success without lying, you gotta call it "evidence of positive treatment" lolJaekus wrote:
Of course I did
Once again you've proven my point, and I rest my case
how many times can you really "rest your case", I always thought it was once.
The experts are all agreeing it works and is improving to be more effective as time goes on and methods are tweaked and improved. But yeah, you can't admit that one either. Kinda like how I pulled out stats in that other thread about gay marriage and you dismissed, denied and then ran away with your tail between your legs when you couldn't find any rebuttal.
Which is:eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
Not sure what stats you are talking about in the gay marriage thread, but I promise you if anything you said was ignored, much like eleven bravo's posts, it wasn't worth responding to. I might have missed it though. I do not run from a debate. If you wanna go back and repost whatever "evidence of positive treatment" , you have regarding gay marriage, I will address it.
So really what you are saying is ignorance is bliss? You have no experience of crime or the prison system therefore it must be fine.lowing wrote:
No Dilbert,I have acknowledged the points made about the USA's fallen status in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
But you have a greater risk of being a victim than I do because in my country I am allowed to defend myself.
Something you really gotta get over, most of us will never be a victim of crime, and we will live our entire lives without having any run in with the judicial system or criminals. I just go to work, come home to my 3000 sq ft home with 4 bedrooms a theater room, 2 full kitchens ( gotta have a kitchen next to my theater room, screw walking all the way back upstairs for a snack) in my acre country mountain setting. On week ends we might go shooting or rc plane flying, maybe take a weekend trip to some historical town ( we love staying in hotels as well) Talk about a quality life. What a "bizarre" way to live.
Tell me, how hard is it to turn around in one of those "flats" or living right below someone else?
Wooo you live in a house, while we are being gay I am currently building a £5m house next to a forest with a swimming pool in their double basement, 7 bedrooms, helipad, 120k kitchen, cinema room, panic room, tennis court, 4 car garage etc etc. I fail to see your point?
I wouldnt know, flats arent very popular in this country and I have never lived in one. Infact fewer people live in flats in UK than live in prison in US
Dunno how many times I have to repeat myself but I don't work in rehab.lowing wrote:
lol, you didn't deny the "evidence of positive treatment" bullshit, but you did acknowledge it was directed toward rehab and it was the "experts" who are claiming "it works". Man, you are right again, in your line of work, you are free from any measurable productivity or success. I forgot that.Jaekus wrote:
lol again I dunno why you think I work in rehab old man.lowing wrote:
Yeah you are right, I forgot a 36% failure rate is a success in your line of work. Or what was it, a 64% of "evidence of positive treatment"? Fuck, you can't even say success without lying, you gotta call it "evidence of positive treatment" lol
how many times can you really "rest your case", I always thought it was once.
The experts are all agreeing it works and is improving to be more effective as time goes on and methods are tweaked and improved. But yeah, you can't admit that one either. Kinda like how I pulled out stats in that other thread about gay marriage and you dismissed, denied and then ran away with your tail between your legs when you couldn't find any rebuttal.
Which is:eleven bravo wrote:
classic lowing
Not sure what stats you are talking about in the gay marriage thread, but I promise you if anything you said was ignored, much like eleven bravo's posts, it wasn't worth responding to. I might have missed it though. I do not run from a debate. If you wanna go back and repost whatever "evidence of positive treatment" , you have regarding gay marriage, I will address it.
You have to be the densest person I've encountered online. It's kinda funny.
WRONGlowing wrote:
No Dilbert,I have acknowledged the points made about the USA's fallen status in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
But you have a greater risk of being a victim than I do because in my country I am allowed to defend myself.
All the statistical trends indicate this is not the case.
WRONGlowing wrote:
Something you really gotta get over, most of us will never be a victim of crime, and we will live our entire lives without having any run in with the judicial system or criminals.
The vast majority of people will be the victim of some form of crime at some point in their lives.
I just go to work, come home to my 750 sq ft home situated 1 minutes walk from the local supermarket and tube station, with bars, clubs and pubs 2-5 minutes walk away - tell me, how many local ammenities can you walk to? On weekends I might hop across the channel to relax in the country in my 8000 sq ft house in France in 4 acre country setting, maybe take a trip to a historical town (one with actual history, more than about 50 years old) or to a vinyard or nice restaurant - or just sit outside and have a barbecue.lowing wrote:
I just go to work, come home to my 3000 sq ft home with 4 bedrooms a theater room, 2 full kitchens ( gotta have a kitchen next to my theater room, screw walking all the way back upstairs for a snack) in my acre country mountain setting. On week ends we might go shooting or rc plane flying, maybe take a weekend trip to some historical town ( we love staying in hotels as well) Talk about a quality life. What a "bizarre" way to live.
Tell me, how hard is it to turn around in one of those "flats" or living right below someone else?
But of course the US is the only place in which one can have a high quality of life and of course the quality of life elsewhere cannot compare - because lowing says so.
I know you told me, but as I said you are not denying the carefully worded conclusions made by your "experts" as they assert their stats of "evidence of positive treatment". All I know is you get paid to pretend to care about people in need of help, I have asked and you flatly refuse to tell me exactly what it is you pretend to care about. I can't help that, nor do I care. The issue is rehab and you have not shown shit that it works.Jaekus wrote:
Dunno how many times I have to repeat myself but I don't work in rehab.lowing wrote:
lol, you didn't deny the "evidence of positive treatment" bullshit, but you did acknowledge it was directed toward rehab and it was the "experts" who are claiming "it works". Man, you are right again, in your line of work, you are free from any measurable productivity or success. I forgot that.Jaekus wrote:
lol again I dunno why you think I work in rehab old man.
The experts are all agreeing it works and is improving to be more effective as time goes on and methods are tweaked and improved. But yeah, you can't admit that one either. Kinda like how I pulled out stats in that other thread about gay marriage and you dismissed, denied and then ran away with your tail between your legs when you couldn't find any rebuttal.
Which is:
Not sure what stats you are talking about in the gay marriage thread, but I promise you if anything you said was ignored, much like eleven bravo's posts, it wasn't worth responding to. I might have missed it though. I do not run from a debate. If you wanna go back and repost whatever "evidence of positive treatment" , you have regarding gay marriage, I will address it.
You have to be the densest person I've encountered online. It's kinda funny.
The best you got is "evidence of positive treatment" as I said, not even your "experts" can call it success.
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ummm what stats? If you do not have the means of self defense, ( I don't really cite calling a cop and hope he shows up) a means of self defense.Bertster7 wrote:
WRONGlowing wrote:
No Dilbert,I have acknowledged the points made about the USA's fallen status in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
So basically lowing thinks the USA is number one on all metrics even though it clearly isn't.
And the crime rate and risk of personally being a victim of crime doesn't matter just so long as the offender gets punished afterwards.
USA = Bizarroworld then.
But you have a greater risk of being a victim than I do because in my country I am allowed to defend myself.
All the statistical trends indicate this is not the case.WRONGlowing wrote:
Something you really gotta get over, most of us will never be a victim of crime, and we will live our entire lives without having any run in with the judicial system or criminals.
The vast majority of people will be the victim of some form of crime at some point in their lives.I just go to work, come home to my 750 sq ft home situated 1 minutes walk from the local supermarket and tube station, with bars, clubs and pubs 2-5 minutes walk away - tell me, how many local ammenities can you walk to? On weekends I might hop across the channel to relax in the country in my 8000 sq ft house in France in 4 acre country setting, maybe take a trip to a historical town (one with actual history, more than about 50 years old) or to a vinyard or nice restaurant - or just sit outside and have a barbecue.lowing wrote:
I just go to work, come home to my 3000 sq ft home with 4 bedrooms a theater room, 2 full kitchens ( gotta have a kitchen next to my theater room, screw walking all the way back upstairs for a snack) in my acre country mountain setting. On week ends we might go shooting or rc plane flying, maybe take a weekend trip to some historical town ( we love staying in hotels as well) Talk about a quality life. What a "bizarre" way to live.
Tell me, how hard is it to turn around in one of those "flats" or living right below someone else?
But of course the US is the only place in which one can have a high quality of life and of course the quality of life elsewhere cannot compare - because lowing says so.
Was kinda sorta talking about some sort of violent crime, sorry.
I can not walk to any amenities, except our pool in our sub-dvision, and wouldn't have it any other way. I am not rich, hence my point, MOST Americans have homes ( not flats) and a piece of land with a great deal of them more than 8 acres. Tell me, how rich do you have to be to own a home on 8 acres in France? Here in the states, it is middle class and quite common place. This is where my quality of life comes into play.
I will say, I do envy the history that surrounds you, but hey, I can not help our mere 250 year old history, which was last week compared to what you enjoy.
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Jesus Christ you are using the size of houses as an argument about quality of life. Literally retarded.
Nope, I am using elbow room and tranquility and comparative luxury with very little concern for the rest of you as my yard stick. Sorry, shoulda been more clear.Macbeth wrote:
Jesus Christ you are using the size of houses as an argument about quality of life. Literally retarded.
So you are using purely subjective taste as a measure. Still retarded.
You wouldnt need self defence if you didnt have such a high crime rate.
Again you are happy to deal with the event after it has happened whereas the rest of us would like to prevent it happening in the first place.
And again you have more people in prison than we have in flats. Therefore we can assert that all of America lives in jail same as all of UK lives in flats amirite?
Again you are happy to deal with the event after it has happened whereas the rest of us would like to prevent it happening in the first place.
And again you have more people in prison than we have in flats. Therefore we can assert that all of America lives in jail same as all of UK lives in flats amirite?
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Oh I didn't know most of you over the pond had a choice but to live on top of each other, over here we do, I choose elbow room over banging on the ceiling to shut my "mates" up. Well let me tell ya, if you have the means like bertster, I suggest buying a large home on some acreage because I think you will agree with me, you will change your opinion on your quality of life. MOST of you DO have the means to buy a large home in the country right?Macbeth wrote:
So you are using purely subjective taste as a measure. Still retarded.