Hurricane2k9
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Washington Post wrote:

Sweden was far from immune to the global downturn of 2008-09. But unlike other countries, it is bouncing back. Its 5.5 percent growth rate last year trounces the 2.8 percent expansion in the United States and was stronger than any other developed nation in Europe. And compared with the United States, unemployment peaked lower (around 9 percent, compared with 10 percent) and has come down faster (it now stands near 7 percent, compared with 9 percent in the U.S.).
For the tl;dr camp:

1) Be financially responsible when times are good so that when they go bad, it doesn't hurt as much. They had a 3.6% budget surplus while we had a 3% budget deficit in 2007. Sweden's gross debt is going to be 45 percent of the size of their economy... ours is closing in on 100

2) Sweden's social welfare programs may have played a part, as they were already in place. Meanwhile, it took a while for the US to implement the stimulus bill, and several one-time programs took months to start pumping money in to the economy.

3) Aggressive monetary policy. They aggressively lowered their interest rates and actually made on rate below zero.

4) Having the value of currency be flexible. Sweden doesn't use the Euro, so they aren't really affected by the European Central Bank's decisions while their neighbor Finland is. The US was also affected in a similar way because the dollar is the global reserve currency.

5) Bankers should not be "so cushioned from the consequences of their unwise decisions as to go straight back to the old ways." Apparently Swedish banks and investors were much less willing to take risks on the housing market compared to the rest of the world.

What do you all think? I've always found Sweden and those other Nordic countries pretty admirable for their economies and standards of living, but I wonder if they're sustainable?
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Macbeth
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I agree with the first point but otherwise a more 'Swedish' system would be near impossible to implement in the U.S. Besides there is a real good chance Sweden's success is just an anomaly anyway.
Hurricane2k9
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Macbeth wrote:

I agree with the first point but otherwise a more 'Swedish' system would be near impossible to implement in the U.S. Besides there is a real good chance Sweden's success is just an anomaly anyway.
That's what I hear regarding Norway. They're a small, homogeneous population so it works. Don't quite understand the "homogeneous" argument though.
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Macbeth
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It's easier to get the population to go along with things.
DrunkFace
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You know what's better then recovering quickly from a recession?

Not having one. Australia > Sweden. Also your homogeneous bullshit wont fly here either.
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You would have to pay me and place a gun to my head to live in Australia.
Macbeth
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There are more people in NYC than Australia soooooo
DrunkFace
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Macbeth wrote:

There are more people in NYC than Australia soooooo
18 million is more then 22 million, good to know. Also what kind of retarded answer is that when you made this thread based on a country with 9 million.
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

You would have to pay me and place a gun to my head to live in Australia.
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Macbeth wrote:

I agree with the first point but otherwise a more 'Swedish' system would be near impossible to implement in the U.S. Besides there is a real good chance Sweden's success is just an anomaly anyway.
agree, like most of the nordic countries: small and non-diverse - easy to rapid change
Macbeth
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DrunkFace wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

There are more people in NYC than Australia soooooo
18 million is more then 22 million, good to know. Also what kind of retarded answer is that when you made this thread based on a country with 9 million.
19 million in  metro NY. Meh off by 3 million. Point still stands your country is still tiny in terms of people.

I didn't make this thread.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-06-25 16:00:59)

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13urnzz wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

You would have to pay me and place a gun to my head to live in Australia.
Dilbert_X
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

4) Having the value of currency be flexible. Sweden doesn't use the Euro, so they aren't really affected by the European Central Bank's decisions while their neighbor Finland is. The US was also affected in a similar way because the dollar is the global reserve currency.
Thats bollocks basically, the US currency floats like everyone elses.

Saab can't pay workers wages right now.
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Macbeth wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

There are more people in NYC than Australia soooooo
18 million is more then 22 million, good to know. Also what kind of retarded answer is that when you made this thread based on a country with 9 million.
19 million in  metro NY. Meh off by 3 million. Point still stands your country is still tiny in terms of people.

I didn't make this thread.
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Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
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11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
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11 Bravo
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nope
13urnzz
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AussieReaper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
https://i.imgur.com/BH2ua.jpg
Dilbert_X
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IIRC Its Norwegia thats doing well, Sweden not so much.

As for the US, I guess not paying black people to work was fine, paying them to not work is where you've gone wrong.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-06-25 21:26:28)

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AussieReaper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
http://i.imgur.com/8pWGC.jpg
Why do you have monopoly money?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
AussieReaper
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13urnzz wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
http://i.imgur.com/BH2ua.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/W2iJM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Dilbert_X
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Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
http://i.imgur.com/8pWGC.jpg
Why do you have monopoly money?
Its long lasting and hard to forge, unlike the loo paper you use.

Its also great for the beach, which is where we spend most of the day, and goes through the washing machine fine which is great too as we're mostly drunk when not at work.

That and the kangaroos don't eat it so you can leave some spare in their pouch while they're parked outside the pub.
Its useful for the "It can't be my round, see, I already spent all my money" blag.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-06-25 21:30:04)

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Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
http://i.imgur.com/8pWGC.jpg
Why do you have monopoly money?
because synthetic money doesn't break down in the wash and is non-flammable. the notes are different sizes so the blind can tell what the note is they are handling also.

Last edited by AussieReaper (2011-06-25 21:27:50)

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Jay
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AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


http://i.imgur.com/8pWGC.jpg
Why do you have monopoly money?
because synthetic money doesn't break down in the wash and is non-flammable. the notes are different sizes so the blind can tell what the note is they are handling also.
That's quite politically correct for a bunch of ex-rapists
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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