Jay
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ALBANY - New York made history last night as the State Senate voted "aye" on gay marriage.

Senators passed the bill 33 to 29 as the normally somnolent chambers erupted in a raucous chant of "USA! USA!"
"As I have said many times, this is a very difficult issue and it will be a vote of conscience for every member of the Senate," said GOP Majority Leader Dean Skelos (R-Nassau).

New York joined Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Iowa and Washington, D.C., in legally recognizing gay marriage.

"I'm verklempt," said a nervously optimistic Assemblyman Matthew Titone (D-S.I), one of five openly gay state lawmakers prior to the vote. "I'm still in a state of disbelief."

The Assembly passed the bill last week for the fourth time since 2007.

It was only two years ago that gay marriage was easily defeated in the then Democrat-controlled Senate. Now, the rush to the altar could begin 30 days after Gov. Cuomo, who made gay marriage a priority, signs the bill.

For gay couples, marriage means more than just swapping rings.

For the first time they qualify for the same 1,324 state marriage benefits afforded to straight couples.

Same-sex couples are not eligible for federal marriage benefits because of the Defense of Marriage Act.

Advocates on both sides of the issue have for days lined the hallways around the Senate praying, chanting and singing.

"This is one of the basic steps toward being considered first-class citizens," said Erik Ross, 30, a gay student from Albany.

Opponents vowed political retribution for GOP senators who voted in favor of the bill.

"If it passes, we feel it's going to ruin our state and our country," said Dawn Adams, a coordinator of the Norwich Tea Party Patriots.

Going into last night's vote, 31 senators, including two Republicans, were supporting the gay marriage bill - one shy of the 32 needed for passage.

All eyes were on a small group of undecided senators, particularly Stephen Saland (R-Poughkeepsie), whose wife - who is viewed as sympathetic to the cause - came to the Capitol, giving supporters hope.

Republicans agonized over the vote for weeks. Some opposed it on religious or moral grounds while others feared promised Conservative Party backlash could cost the GOP its already razor-thin majority next year.

Divided Republican senators discussed whether to bring the controversial bill to the floor for six hours behind closed doors yesterday, Sen. Kemp Hannon (R-Nassau) said.

Sources said a small group of senators led by Syracuse Republican John DeFrancisco were arguing to bypass a floor vote in favor of a public referendum.

In the end, many felt it better to clear the contentious issue off the table before next year's elections.

The decision also came after Cuomo and legislative leaders agreed on language to ensure that religious groups cannot be sued if they refuse to cater to gay couples.

It would also block the state from penalizing, discriminating against or denying benefits to religious groups. They would not be stripped of their tax-exempt status or their property tax breaks.

Even with the protections, the state's Catholic bishops, led by Archbishop Timothy Dolan vehemently opposed passage of a gay marriage bill, calling it "bad for society."

"Marriage has always been, is now, and always will be the union of one man and one woman in a lifelong, life-giving union," the bishops said in a statement. "Government does not have the authority to change this most basic of truths."

Passage of gay marriage was a huge political victory for Cuomo.

The freshman governor traveled the state trying to rally support.

He brought the major gay lobby groups together into a unified coalition - and coordinated their efforts.

And the Democrat repeatedly met with reticent GOP senators trying to allay their fears and worked personally with them on the religious exemption language.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic … z1QIAeOuWS
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England
Yay New York!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Kmar
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Hurricane2k9
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Jay wrote:

Yay New York!
You won't be smiling when He does to NY what He did to Sodom and Gomorrah.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD
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13rin
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sigh \_/.

I wonder if all the gay pride shit will go away now up there.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England

13rin wrote:

sigh \_/.

I wonder if all the gay pride shit will go away now up there.
Why does it bother you? You live in Florida.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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next they'll want to vote.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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the day after
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lul
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Jay
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+2,006|5598|London, England

Kmar wrote:

next they'll want to vote.
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-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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13rin wrote:

sigh \_/.

I wonder if all the gay pride shit will go away now up there.
Dude, let Jay have his day.
Fuck Israel
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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someone on another forum wrote:

There are only 5 verses (out of 37,000+) in the Bible that ever refer to some type of same-sex behavior. When looked at in their original language and cultural context, they do not refer to modern day homosexuality, as that concept was unknown until 1900 A.D.

Conservatives ignore context and original language and assume the English version condemns modern day gays. The original language condemns pagan prostitution and pederasty commonly found among the Caananites and Greco-Romans.

Nothing in the Bible prohibits same-sex marriage, just like nothing in the Bible discusses intersex individuals or the internet.

I'm not willing to condemn hundreds of millions of people based on a measly 5 misunderstood out of context verses of the Bible.
bullets, depleted uranium etc
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Dilbert_X
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"If a man lies with another man they shall be put to death"
I don't see anything ambiguous or hard to understand there, I think that pretty much covers gay sex, same sex marriage etc.

do not refer to modern day homosexuality, as that concept was unknown until 1900 A.D.
Yes it was
commonly found among the Caananites and Greco-Romans.
If they were familiar with the Greeks and Romans they would have known plenty about homosexuality.
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AussieReaper
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"I'm not willing to condemn hundreds of millions of people based on a measly 5 misunderstood out of context verses of the Bible."

Even the understood and incontext verses.
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War Man
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Freaks.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Dilbert_X wrote:

"If a man lies with another man they shall be put to death"
I don't see anything ambiguous or hard to understand there, I think that pretty much covers gay sex, same sex marriage etc.

do not refer to modern day homosexuality, as that concept was unknown until 1900 A.D.
Yes it was
commonly found among the Caananites and Greco-Romans.
If they were familiar with the Greeks and Romans they would have known plenty about homosexuality.
meh it's still a novel
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Dilbert_X
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And a very boring one.
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Kmar
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Christians call it the old testament for a reason.
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Jaekus
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Good one. One more step towards further separation of church and state
lowing
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I love how all of these opponents to gay marriage argue that the institution of marriage will be destroyed by the marriage of 2 people of the same sex, as if, heterosexual marriages have done wonders to promote loving, stable, caring, relationships and family life.

The last laugh will be on the homosexuals when they realize marriage can be a bigger pain in the ass, than what they are already used to .
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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lowing wrote:

The last laugh will be on the homosexuals when they realize marriage can be a bigger pain in the ass, than what they are already used to .
I think ass-pain is something they'd be used to.
Fuck Israel
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6954|Purplicious Wisconsin

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

The last laugh will be on the homosexuals when they realize marriage can be a bigger pain in the ass, than what they are already used to .
I think ass-pain is something they'd be used to.
They aren't used to sharp needles poking them.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5942|College Park, MD
Several states in the US allow marriage between cousins. The gall of these people to prate about morals when they're committing incest.

Although tbh I don't give a shit what happens between two consenting adults in their bedroom.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Like I said before, I don't think it's the job of a government to recognize any variety of marriage. It is easier to accept on a state level though.

So have a ball.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Kmar wrote:

Like I said before, I don't think it's the job of a government to recognize any variety of marriage. It is easier to accept on a state level though.

So have a ball.
I'm liking the idea of government not recognizing any form of marriage and for marriage benefits to just disappear.

But until that happens, there ought to be equality in government recognition of it.
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13rin
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Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

sigh \_/.

I wonder if all the gay pride shit will go away now up there.
Why does it bother you? You live in Florida.
Where did I say it bothered me.  My care cup is empty there. 

I'm just tired of all the 'gay pride' shit thrown in my face.  Do I drive around with some sort of 'heterosexual pride' bumper sticker on my car?  Do they even exist?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

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