jesus christ on a tricycle shifty.... there isn't a facepalm.jpg big enough for you sometimes
Go back through the thread. We have gone over a few times the reasons people don't want someone who believes men walked with dinosaurs 6,000 years ago to be POTUS.
i bet shifty and his patriotism didnt know that jefferson read the bible just to laugh at its idiocy.Jaekus wrote:
Go back through the thread. We have gone over a few times the reasons people don't want someone who believes men walked with dinosaurs 6,000 years ago to be POTUS.
don't feed the troll.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
She's only popular because of her looks. She's got the whole milf thing going on. You think anyone would give a single shit about what comes out of her mouth if she were the 300lb disgraced governor of the welfare state of alaska?
i'm pretty sure they use her as another "scarecrow" to have obama (or somebody who'd continue his bullshit) re-elected. i see no other reason, really. sure, they'll have all the shitfies voting for her, that's kinda unavoidable, but anybody with a modicum of common sense would vote anyone just to be against that crazy bitch. it's just like it was with mccain, really, only this time they obviously need a better bogeyman.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
I read through 7 pages of this shit, brick walls talking to eachother. Great 'debate' guys, rehash the same rubbish and shoot it down in 50 different ways.
And lowing, it's ridiculous how you're comparing Obama to Palin in terms of intelligence. You can't catch Obama on anything except people he associated / talked to and him mis-speaking. You're comparing this to a woman who has -personally- shown to be completely (wilfully) ignorant of history and biology (the latter indicating a huge lack of knowledge and interest on scientific fields). Furthermore, her cultural background is extremely lacking if she's trying to ban books like Brave New World and Lord of the Flies from a library, deeming them to be 'offending'.
Generally, you don't want someone who doesn't understand science, lacks even the most basic knowledge of history, isn't well-read and who likes to come across as a 'hockey mom' being anywhere near a position of actual power, let alone leading a nation. You don't want to set her across people like Hu Jintao, Putin or Sarkozy to discuss international issues, relations and other political endeavours. She doesn't even personally understand them, is quite probably ignorant of the cultural barrier and isn't articulate on any level bar the most basic forms of conversation. She embodies ignorance and idiocy. You'd see all three of the aforementioned politicians either walking out of the room before she's even started/finished talking or taking full advantage of her stupidity.
Last but not least, as Jay mentioned before, she's got her own TV show in which she has access to the editing and even there she only comes across as a blissfully ignorant woman. Only serves to reinforce the belief that Palin is an idiot, with her own consent to make matters worse.
You're comparing this to your current POTUS, a well read articulate debater, politically savvy summa cum laude Harvard graduate who has at the very least shown to be reasonable. If you can't see the enormous difference between the two then either you are blinded by some sort of hatred for Obama or you seriously need to work on what you value in a leading figure. It's not a difference of opinion, if you truly believe Palin isn't any worse, or maybe even better than Obama, there's something seriously wrong in your reasoning.
And lowing, it's ridiculous how you're comparing Obama to Palin in terms of intelligence. You can't catch Obama on anything except people he associated / talked to and him mis-speaking. You're comparing this to a woman who has -personally- shown to be completely (wilfully) ignorant of history and biology (the latter indicating a huge lack of knowledge and interest on scientific fields). Furthermore, her cultural background is extremely lacking if she's trying to ban books like Brave New World and Lord of the Flies from a library, deeming them to be 'offending'.
Generally, you don't want someone who doesn't understand science, lacks even the most basic knowledge of history, isn't well-read and who likes to come across as a 'hockey mom' being anywhere near a position of actual power, let alone leading a nation. You don't want to set her across people like Hu Jintao, Putin or Sarkozy to discuss international issues, relations and other political endeavours. She doesn't even personally understand them, is quite probably ignorant of the cultural barrier and isn't articulate on any level bar the most basic forms of conversation. She embodies ignorance and idiocy. You'd see all three of the aforementioned politicians either walking out of the room before she's even started/finished talking or taking full advantage of her stupidity.
Last but not least, as Jay mentioned before, she's got her own TV show in which she has access to the editing and even there she only comes across as a blissfully ignorant woman. Only serves to reinforce the belief that Palin is an idiot, with her own consent to make matters worse.
You're comparing this to your current POTUS, a well read articulate debater, politically savvy summa cum laude Harvard graduate who has at the very least shown to be reasonable. If you can't see the enormous difference between the two then either you are blinded by some sort of hatred for Obama or you seriously need to work on what you value in a leading figure. It's not a difference of opinion, if you truly believe Palin isn't any worse, or maybe even better than Obama, there's something seriously wrong in your reasoning.
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sorry you feel that wayShocking wrote:
I read through 7 pages of this shit, brick walls talking to eachother. Great 'debate' guys, rehash the same rubbish and shoot it down in 50 different ways.
Seriously though, at the end of the day Palin is (was) nothing more than the representation of traditional family values in the modern era. When it came to actual politics, she was left floundering. Sure, her personality has a certain charm and I'm sure she's a good person, but she has no political nouse and clearly was in over her head during the last election. I saw a debate or two between her and Biden and they were total opposites in many ways. Biden seemed to be this fairly unpersonable, typical politician whilst Palin was a charming, if not kinda ditzy, Governor of a state that is considered a bit of a backwater. She was a novelty.
At least, all that is the impression I got (and can remember at the moment).
You got a three day ban for badmouthing another member and obviously you learned little or nothing from that ... seems you have problems with separating the different facts from eachother ...Jay wrote:
Is being completely stupid a new debate tactic of yours? I called Varegg an idiot earlier this week (which earned me a three day ban), but man, you put him to shame. Dumb as a fucking fence post.
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
People call eachother idiots here all the time. I don't see a problem.
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That's the problem right there ... the true idiots are those that can't argue their opinion without calling the others idiots ...Shocking wrote:
People call eachother idiots here all the time. I don't see a problem.
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Debates always get heated, it just happens. The quarrels are part of what makes this section worthwhile.Varegg wrote:
That's the problem right there ... the true idiots are those that can't argue their opinion without calling the others idiots ...Shocking wrote:
People call eachother idiots here all the time. I don't see a problem.
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Quarels are okay, that's part of debating ... the badmouthing however is not okay ...
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Doubt she'll run, I'd vote for her though if I had to choose between Obama and Palin though. I personally wish Paul Ryan would run for president.
Evolution is not science, no matter how much you say it is.AussieReaper wrote:
She is entitled to her opinion, and I'm happy for her to express it at Church and at home. Not in the classroom of children who should be taught science, not creationism.lowing wrote:
nope, all I am saying is, with all of her exposure, the debate over creationism and evolution is your big retarded moment for Palin. Kind weak honestly. I woulda hoped you coulda come up with a real scandal or political blunder or something. She has her opinion on creationism just like everyone else. All for all, that would not be the deal breaker in the voting booth when there so much more things to worry about. In fact, if that is the only thing you got, she is way ahead of Obama already.
For me, teaching kids that the Flintsones is fact, is a deal breaker.
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
So in summary, you'd be ready to see an angry uneducated chimp in the white house, with their finger on the button, before a social democrat.lowing wrote:
but to answer your question directly, what she would have to do to lose my vote: Adopt a liberal/socialist political philosophy.
Didn't you try that?
How did it work out?
Fuck Israel
Please, just stop typing.Warman wrote:
Evolution is not science, no matter how much you say it is.
Fuck Israel
Well, I am actually gonna get some sleep so you'll get what you want. I shall return, however.Dilbert_X wrote:
Please, just stop typing.Warman wrote:
Evolution is not science, no matter how much you say it is.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Okay War Man, as you have to be very knowledgeable in the field of biology to confidently suggest that evolution is a load of unscientific bollocks, I'd like you to explain to me why it is. You obviously know a thing or two that many of the world's most influential and renowned scientists over the last couple centuries didn't get.
Oh, and they were influential and renowned for their reason, not hocus-pocus and political chit chat.
Oh, and they were influential and renowned for their reason, not hocus-pocus and political chit chat.
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Whatever, the theory of evolution has come through the scientific process and is currently the premier theory.
To say its not science is like saying speaking isn't language.
But then I wasn't homeschooled so what do I know.
To say its not science is like saying speaking isn't language.
But then I wasn't homeschooled so what do I know.
Fuck Israel
sometimes i really wish this forum had an ignore list function
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
How would you know? You've been homed schooled your whole life.War Man wrote:
Doubt she'll run, I'd vote for her though if I had to choose between Obama and Palin though. I personally wish Paul Ryan would run for president.Evolution is not science, no matter how much you say it is.AussieReaper wrote:
She is entitled to her opinion, and I'm happy for her to express it at Church and at home. Not in the classroom of children who should be taught science, not creationism.lowing wrote:
nope, all I am saying is, with all of her exposure, the debate over creationism and evolution is your big retarded moment for Palin. Kind weak honestly. I woulda hoped you coulda come up with a real scandal or political blunder or something. She has her opinion on creationism just like everyone else. All for all, that would not be the deal breaker in the voting booth when there so much more things to worry about. In fact, if that is the only thing you got, she is way ahead of Obama already.
For me, teaching kids that the Flintsones is fact, is a deal breaker.
We're still waiting for your explanation on how carbon dating is a load of crap.War Man wrote:
Doubt she'll run, I'd vote for her though if I had to choose between Obama and Palin though. I personally wish Paul Ryan would run for president.Evolution is not science, no matter how much you say it is.AussieReaper wrote:
She is entitled to her opinion, and I'm happy for her to express it at Church and at home. Not in the classroom of children who should be taught science, not creationism.lowing wrote:
nope, all I am saying is, with all of her exposure, the debate over creationism and evolution is your big retarded moment for Palin. Kind weak honestly. I woulda hoped you coulda come up with a real scandal or political blunder or something. She has her opinion on creationism just like everyone else. All for all, that would not be the deal breaker in the voting booth when there so much more things to worry about. In fact, if that is the only thing you got, she is way ahead of Obama already.
For me, teaching kids that the Flintsones is fact, is a deal breaker.
It doesn't fit with the facts in the bible -> Its crap
Fuck Israel
Unicorns.Dilbert_X wrote:
It doesn't fit with the facts in the bible -> Its crap