FEOS
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lowing wrote:

FEOS wrote:

lowing wrote:


I already gave it to you. Now, do you have anything REAL to base your opinion on?  Like how she handled being mayor, or a governor? Or is the man vs dinosaur it?
Her critical thinking IS real, lowing. There are many examples of her poor critical thinking (bridge to nowhere endorsement before not endorsing it anyone?). Choosing to quit the office the people of her state had elected her to execute. They did not elect her to do nation-wide bus tours and reality TV shows in order to "reach more people with her message." Those "real" enough for you, or will you choose to view them as "unreal" because they support someone else's argument?

Like it or not, they are indicators of poor critical thinking on her part, just as taking the position that man and dinosaurs coexisted--even though all scientific data says otherwise and the Bible doesn't say anything about it, either--is the same. She has nothing to base that position on, yet she makes a statement like that, knowing it will cause a political shitstorm beyond her own platform, but she has nothing to justify the position--scientifically or theologically. Faulty critical thinking all the way around. Multiple other decisions on her part that can be dissected similarly.
She resigned, she has more publicity and more money now than ever before, sounds like sound thinking to me. You may not like WHY she did it, but it sure as fuck looks as if she knew EXACTLY what she was doing and it is undeniable it is paying off for her

She supported the bridge to nowhere, changed her mind, kept the funding for Alaska and put it to use elsewhere, YOU may not like it, but it sure as fuck sounds like she knew what she was doing and thought the matter through, and it benefited Alaska, hardy an example of a lack of "critical thinking". So, what else you got? A boob job maybe? Or the REAL color of her hair?

She is riding a wave of popularity and wealth based on her decisions for herself, that is not a lack of 'critical thinking" or "retardation". I tis nothing more than proof that "haters gunna hate" and they will find whatever reason they can, regardless as to how lame, irrelevant, or desperate the reason may be. I can live with that actually. What I find absurd is the inconsistency of the hate, based on the person and not the opinion.
You are misdirecting your anger on this, lowing. I have nothing personal against Palin. In fact, on a personal level, I have quite an affinity for her, as a fellow parent of a special-needs child. I don't have any issues with any of the mindless things you seem to be attributing to my argument...none of which I have mentioned a single fucking time.

She's making decisions for herself. She wasn't elected governor of Palin, was she? Yes, I have an issue with her quitting before the halfway point of a term that she volunteered for and that the people of Alaska voted for her to serve in its entirety or until they remove her. To step down for such clearly selfish reasons, IMO, makes her unfit to lead. Leaders do not put themselves first. That's clearly what she did.

As to her critical thinking skills: look at the things she says. She constantly has to go back and "adjust" what she meant. If she applied true critical thought to her positions on things, she wouldn't have to do that. Or at least not nearly as much. It's not just an eloquence issue with her. When it's an issue she's well-versed on or has ownership of, she doesn't have to backtrack later. Pop-offs and off-the-cuff comments on policy issues are inappropriate for someone who is (possibly) aspiring to the Presidency.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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AussieReaper
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So lowing, why aren't you a creationist?
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lowing
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FEOS wrote:

lowing wrote:

FEOS wrote:


Her critical thinking IS real, lowing. There are many examples of her poor critical thinking (bridge to nowhere endorsement before not endorsing it anyone?). Choosing to quit the office the people of her state had elected her to execute. They did not elect her to do nation-wide bus tours and reality TV shows in order to "reach more people with her message." Those "real" enough for you, or will you choose to view them as "unreal" because they support someone else's argument?

Like it or not, they are indicators of poor critical thinking on her part, just as taking the position that man and dinosaurs coexisted--even though all scientific data says otherwise and the Bible doesn't say anything about it, either--is the same. She has nothing to base that position on, yet she makes a statement like that, knowing it will cause a political shitstorm beyond her own platform, but she has nothing to justify the position--scientifically or theologically. Faulty critical thinking all the way around. Multiple other decisions on her part that can be dissected similarly.
She resigned, she has more publicity and more money now than ever before, sounds like sound thinking to me. You may not like WHY she did it, but it sure as fuck looks as if she knew EXACTLY what she was doing and it is undeniable it is paying off for her

She supported the bridge to nowhere, changed her mind, kept the funding for Alaska and put it to use elsewhere, YOU may not like it, but it sure as fuck sounds like she knew what she was doing and thought the matter through, and it benefited Alaska, hardy an example of a lack of "critical thinking". So, what else you got? A boob job maybe? Or the REAL color of her hair?

She is riding a wave of popularity and wealth based on her decisions for herself, that is not a lack of 'critical thinking" or "retardation". I tis nothing more than proof that "haters gunna hate" and they will find whatever reason they can, regardless as to how lame, irrelevant, or desperate the reason may be. I can live with that actually. What I find absurd is the inconsistency of the hate, based on the person and not the opinion.
You are misdirecting your anger on this, lowing. I have nothing personal against Palin. In fact, on a personal level, I have quite an affinity for her, as a fellow parent of a special-needs child. I don't have any issues with any of the mindless things you seem to be attributing to my argument...none of which I have mentioned a single fucking time.

She's making decisions for herself. She wasn't elected governor of Palin, was she? Yes, I have an issue with her quitting before the halfway point of a term that she volunteered for and that the people of Alaska voted for her to serve in its entirety or until they remove her. To step down for such clearly selfish reasons, IMO, makes her unfit to lead. Leaders do not put themselves first. That's clearly what she did.

As to her critical thinking skills: look at the things she says. She constantly has to go back and "adjust" what she meant. If she applied true critical thought to her positions on things, she wouldn't have to do that. Or at least not nearly as much. It's not just an eloquence issue with her. When it's an issue she's well-versed on or has ownership of, she doesn't have to backtrack later. Pop-offs and off-the-cuff comments on policy issues are inappropriate for someone who is (possibly) aspiring to the Presidency.
You didn't say the things I addressed? you might wanna go back and re-read your own post FEOS.

AS I SAID, YOU might not like her quitting, that is fine, it is also fair for you to say she is unfit to be a leader because of it, but that does not indicate she "lacks critical thinking". On the contrary, she has benefited quit well after walking away.

She does not stand out as any more or less stupid than anyone else with a youtube hit full of spoken dumb shit in washington, really doesn't deserve that attention any more or less than any of them.
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

So lowing, why aren't you a creationist?
Why would I be?
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
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lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I'm not sure you really made a point that applied to anything I said tbh.

People agreeing with you is certainly a novelty, so I can understand why you felt the need to point it out.
might be because my argument was addressed at the board and not specifically to you. If you did not see anything in my argument that applied to you, then maybe you should have just stayed out if it.
Ooooooooooooh

So now I've called you out for the fifth time you're claiming to not have directed any of it at me, despite quoting me in every instance.

Fail troll is fail.
lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I'm not sure you really made a point that applied to anything I said tbh.

People agreeing with you is certainly a novelty, so I can understand why you felt the need to point it out.
might be because my argument was addressed at the board and not specifically to you. If you did not see anything in my argument that applied to you, then maybe you should have just stayed out if it.
Ooooooooooooh

So now I've called you out for the fifth time you're claiming to not have directed any of it at me, despite quoting me in every instance.

Fail troll is fail.
look, I have made my point, you choose to ignore it, deny it or dismiss it and I really couldn't care less.
Jaekus
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lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:


might be because my argument was addressed at the board and not specifically to you. If you did not see anything in my argument that applied to you, then maybe you should have just stayed out if it.
Ooooooooooooh

So now I've called you out for the fifth time you're claiming to not have directed any of it at me, despite quoting me in every instance.

Fail troll is fail.
look, I have made my point, you choose to ignore it, deny it or dismiss disagree with it and I really can't let that go.
fixt
lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:


Ooooooooooooh

So now I've called you out for the fifth time you're claiming to not have directed any of it at me, despite quoting me in every instance.

Fail troll is fail.
look, I have made my point, you choose to ignore it, deny it or dismiss disagree with it and I really can't let that go.
fixt
lol wow, that is some ego ya got there pal.
Jaekus
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Agree to disagree *shrugs*
eleven bravo
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lowing talking about egos
Tu Stultus Es
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

So lowing, why aren't you a creationist?
Why would I be?
I'm asking why you're not.

Do you think that it a retarded belief or something?
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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lowing wrote:

You didn't say the things I addressed? you might wanna go back and re-read your own post FEOS.
No, lowing. I didn't.

lowing wrote:

AS I SAID, YOU might not like her quitting, that is fine, it is also fair for you to say she is unfit to be a leader because of it, but that does not indicate she "lacks critical thinking". On the contrary, she has benefited quit well after walking away.

She does not stand out as any more or less stupid than anyone else with a youtube hit full of spoken dumb shit in washington, really doesn't deserve that attention any more or less than any of them.
Benefiting personally from a decision does not make the decision correct or right, lowing. Read my sig.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
lowing
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FEOS wrote:

lowing wrote:

You didn't say the things I addressed? you might wanna go back and re-read your own post FEOS.
No, lowing. I didn't.

lowing wrote:

AS I SAID, YOU might not like her quitting, that is fine, it is also fair for you to say she is unfit to be a leader because of it, but that does not indicate she "lacks critical thinking". On the contrary, she has benefited quit well after walking away.

She does not stand out as any more or less stupid than anyone else with a youtube hit full of spoken dumb shit in washington, really doesn't deserve that attention any more or less than any of them.
Benefiting personally from a decision does not make the decision correct or right, lowing. Read my sig.
Well then FEOS, you are losin' it cuz this is what you said, and what I addressed

FEOS wrote:

Her critical thinking IS real, lowing. There are many examples of her poor critical thinking (bridge to nowhere endorsement before not endorsing it anyone?). Choosing to quit the office the people of her state had elected her to execute. They did not elect her to do nation-wide bus tours and reality TV shows in order to "reach more people with her message." Those "real" enough for you.


lol, not what I said, I said your examples do not show a lack of intelligence or "critical thinking". You can be unscrupulous or unethical and still know exactly what you are doing and have thought the matter through.

Last edited by lowing (2011-06-23 14:29:22)

Jaekus
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So you basically said she planned to become Governor and resign mid-term so she can then do nation-wide bus tours and reality tv...


Oooooookaaayyyy ...
AussieReaper
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Did she even complete her bus tour?

lol
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lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

So you basically said she planned to become Governor and resign mid-term so she can then do nation-wide bus tours and reality tv...


Oooooookaaayyyy ...
Never said that, I addressed what she actually did, and the fact that it is working out for her.
I am not privy to the personal life and decisions of Sarah Palin, sorry.
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

Did she even complete her bus tour?

lol
I don't know, you gotta ask one of the obsessed media crews reporting on important issues like what she is wearing today.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

So you basically said she planned to become Governor and resign mid-term so she can then do nation-wide bus tours and reality tv...


Oooooookaaayyyy ...
Never said that, I addressed what she actually did, and the fact that it is working out for her.
I am not privy to the personal life and decisions of Sarah Palin, sorry.
Yeah you did.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

So lowing, why aren't you a creationist?
Why would I be?
I'm asking why you're not.

Do you think that it a retarded belief or something?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

So you basically said she planned to become Governor and resign mid-term so she can then do nation-wide bus tours and reality tv...


Oooooookaaayyyy ...
Never said that, I addressed what she actually did, and the fact that it is working out for her.
I am not privy to the personal life and decisions of Sarah Palin, sorry.
Yeah you did.
whatever you think.
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

So lowing, why aren't you a creationist?
Why would I be?
I'm asking why you're not.

Do you think that it a retarded belief or something?
nope. I don't care what people think, I care what people do.
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Are we there yet?
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AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:


Why would I be?
I'm asking why you're not.

Do you think that it a retarded belief or something?
nope. I don't care what people think, I care what people do.
"But why?" Is my quesiton. Why don't you believe. I'm not asking what you think of other people. Why don't you believe in Creationism as a perfectly reasonable and true source for humanities creation.
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lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


I'm asking why you're not.

Do you think that it a retarded belief or something?
nope. I don't care what people think, I care what people do.
"But why?" Is my quesiton. Why don't you believe. I'm not asking what you think of other people. Why don't you believe in Creationism as a perfectly reasonable and true source for humanities creation.
just like you, I have not read anything that supports it.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:


nope. I don't care what people think, I care what people do.
"But why?" Is my quesiton. Why don't you believe. I'm not asking what you think of other people. Why don't you believe in Creationism as a perfectly reasonable and true source for humanities creation.
just like you, I have not read anything that supports it.
Ever? Huh. Maybe Palin could share some of those sources with us. I'm sure it would convince you and I Creationism is definitely real.

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