lowing
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short version is, an ex boyfriend puts up a billboard about his ex girl friends abortion.

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/jilted-ex-bo … 42831.html


Does the guys free speech outweigh another's right to privacy?

I gotta go no, he has no right to conduct this sort of mental abuse, but where exactly is the line to be drawn?

Last edited by lowing (2011-06-07 09:55:22)

Cybargs
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he was probably a dickhead in the relationship to pull this move.
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jsnipy
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lowing wrote:

Does  free speech outweigh another's right to privacy?
?
No, unless you are a celeb
ghettoperson
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She should have taken out an injunction before she had the abortion.
Blue Herring
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jsnipy wrote:

lowing wrote:

Does  free speech outweigh another's right to privacy?
?
No, unless you are a celeb
Hmm, good point. No one bitches at a court when Paparazzi snap a pic of some celebrity in sweat pants with no make-up on, or when those magazines write long articles about every facet of stupid pointless events in their lives, I wonder why this should be treated differently.


The toughest thing you're gonna see if fighting this billboard thing is drawing a line and making you sure draw it far enough to make this apply but not far enough to destroy free speech fundamentally.
lowing
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Blue Herring wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

lowing wrote:

Does  free speech outweigh another's right to privacy?
?
No, unless you are a celeb
Hmm, good point. No one bitches at a court when Paparazzi snap a pic of some celebrity in sweat pants with no make-up on, or when those magazines write long articles about every facet of stupid pointless events in their lives, I wonder why this should be treated differently.


The toughest thing you're gonna see if fighting this billboard thing is drawing a line and making you sure draw it far enough to make this apply but not far enough to destroy free speech fundamentally.
It is different because celebrities sell their souls so to speak. They trade privacy for fame. The ex-girlfriend made no such deals. She is a private citizen and her medical history is not a public affair.
cpt.fass1
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that's fine, Mens Rights for the win. If he put her name on the billboard or his it'd be bad..
Blue Herring
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lowing wrote:

Blue Herring wrote:

jsnipy wrote:


No, unless you are a celeb
Hmm, good point. No one bitches at a court when Paparazzi snap a pic of some celebrity in sweat pants with no make-up on, or when those magazines write long articles about every facet of stupid pointless events in their lives, I wonder why this should be treated differently.


The toughest thing you're gonna see if fighting this billboard thing is drawing a line and making you sure draw it far enough to make this apply but not far enough to destroy free speech fundamentally.
It is different because celebrities sell their souls so to speak. They trade privacy for fame. The ex-girlfriend made no such deals. She is a private citizen and her medical history is not a public affair.
I wasn't aware celebrities make deals with paparazzi. I'm aware that they know it's an inevitable consequence, I'm not so sure that they explicitly give the paparazzi the right to do so, however. In which case, it's not different, simply that the celebrities were expecting it and she was not.

Let me ask something else, what if he did this online instead? Paid to have a bunch of banners on various sites, made a url, proclaiming this? What if he just posted it on a bunch of high-traffic sites with millions of viewers? Is it different then? What makes it being a billboard that makes it unique?
lowing
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Blue Herring wrote:

lowing wrote:

Blue Herring wrote:


Hmm, good point. No one bitches at a court when Paparazzi snap a pic of some celebrity in sweat pants with no make-up on, or when those magazines write long articles about every facet of stupid pointless events in their lives, I wonder why this should be treated differently.


The toughest thing you're gonna see if fighting this billboard thing is drawing a line and making you sure draw it far enough to make this apply but not far enough to destroy free speech fundamentally.
It is different because celebrities sell their souls so to speak. They trade privacy for fame. The ex-girlfriend made no such deals. She is a private citizen and her medical history is not a public affair.
I wasn't aware celebrities make deals with paparazzi. I'm aware that they know it's an inevitable consequence, I'm not so sure that they explicitly give the paparazzi the right to do so, however. In which case, it's not different, simply that the celebrities were expecting it and she was not.

Let me ask something else, what if he did this online instead? Paid to have a bunch of banners on various sites, made a url, proclaiming this? What if he just posted it on a bunch of high-traffic sites with millions of viewers? Is it different then? What makes it being a billboard that makes it unique?
celebrities feel there is no such thing as bad publicity. They know going in they are public figures and what that entails and are willing participants in it. The ex girl friend was not a willing player.

As for your question, the internet is no different. It is a loss of privacy and a gain of public humilation that is not warranted, regardless of the media avenue taken
13urnzz
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Lisa Mendoza is a cunt.
eleven bravo
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there is no debate.  what if he decided to to post a billboard up of the herpes infection she gave him?  cant do shit like that.
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13urnzz
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Delainy Iris Meddow
cpt.fass1
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eleven bravo wrote:

there is no debate.  what if he decided to to post a billboard up of the herpes infection she gave him?  cant do shit like that.
Yes you can?

Say your ex girlfriend is in a herpies commerical, doesn't have herpies, can you sue her for creating the illusion you might have herpies?
lowing
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

there is no debate.  what if he decided to to post a billboard up of the herpes infection she gave him?  cant do shit like that.
Yes you can?

Say your ex girlfriend is in a herpies commerical, doesn't have herpies, can you sue her for creating the illusion you might have herpies?
oh good god
13urnzz
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unnamednewbie13
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"As distasteful and offensive as the sign may be to some, for over 200 years in this country the First Amendment protects distasteful and offensive speech," Todd Holmes said.
If it only showed the guy and not the gal or her name, I don't really see how she can win without pulling the fem card. It may be her body, but it was also his kid.

That said, I don't know what kind of relationship they had or if it was a drug baby.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
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lowing wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

there is no debate.  what if he decided to to post a billboard up of the herpes infection she gave him?  cant do shit like that.
Yes you can?

Say your ex girlfriend is in a herpies commerical, doesn't have herpies, can you sue her for creating the illusion you might have herpies?
oh good god
excatly it's all conjecture and doesn't matter...
Jay
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It's simply another form of bullying. In this case, he should receive a massive beat down from the woman's family. If she was my sister the guy would be in the hospital right now.

I believe in free speech. I also believe in consequences.

Last edited by Jay (2011-06-07 11:02:59)

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eleven bravo
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

there is no debate.  what if he decided to to post a billboard up of the herpes infection she gave him?  cant do shit like that.
Yes you can?
no you cant.

Last edited by eleven bravo (2011-06-07 11:35:49)

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eleven bravo
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stupid shit like this is why i cant hate on the fact that we have so many lawsuits in this country
Tu Stultus Es
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Pretty clear case here.  Unless the chick was a public figure, then her right to privacy has been violated.  The ex-boyfriend is going to get his ass handed to him.

Even IF she was a public figure, this is questionable.
Spearhead
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Well, regardless of whether its legal or not, we all can agree this guy is a tool.  No wonder the woman aborted her baby.
Macbeth
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If she isn't a celeb this could be ruled harrsement.
lowing
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Jay wrote:

It's simply another form of bullying........... 

I believe in free speech. I also believe in consequences.
^^^this is exactly right. It is a form of bullying/harassment/mental abuse, and should not be protected.
Shocking
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So what makes free speech worth limiting in this case and the westboro church funeral pickets and such okay?

Last edited by Shocking (2011-06-07 12:04:29)

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