theres also plenty of instances where he brings in new major characters or where you were told from one persons perspective that a major character died, but is really still alive. it keeps you on your toesMartin Doesn't Like Killing His Characters Either
Which character was the toughest to kill off?
Without mentioning names, he says the Red Wedding was the hardest thing he's ever written, which he had to put off until the rest of the book was finished to complete.
"I wrote the other wedding where someone else dies and that one was easy and fun to write, because you know, everyone wanted to see that little shit die," he says. "Even at the moment that particular little shit does die, I tried to write it so that you would feel empathy for him in that moment of dying and bring home too that this is a human being who is scared, and terrified, and then dead."
"It's a little like killing a part of yourself or smothering one of your children, but sometimes it has to be done for the almighty god of the story," he says. "The story always comes first."
There is no one, however, Martin feels would have been more expedient not to kill. "There was a reason for all of the major character deaths," he says. "A lot of minor character dies too and sometimes I don't even remember they're dead."
i suppose thats pretty cool but i guess I just see keeping a character alive in a story like that as a sign of better writing talent than jumping at the chance to kill someone off and get giddy with the expected disappointment from the reader.Winston_Churchill wrote:
where you were told from one persons perspective that a major character died, but is really still alive. it keeps you on your toes
whould you say doing the exact opposite on a much greater degree is talent? I wouldnt. I cant truly criticize this dude because I havent read a word of his work so it would be unfair for me to do so. I would pick it up but ivce got about 7 books i promised myself id read like 4 months agoWinston_Churchill wrote:
is it though? id say most blockbuster writers are too scared to kill off major characters in big series like this one
Somebody has commitment issuesAries_37 wrote:
Yeah it's really hard to get attached to anyone knowing they could get offed at any moment.Winston_Churchill wrote:
completed all released books.
i hate how anticlimactic the deaths of most of the major characters are. he really doesnt want to leave any likeable characters left at the end of this, does he?
im also quite interested to see if arya actually ends up playing a role in this at some point.
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I just read an "event" in Book 3 that no matter how much you think you expect it, you will not. I promise you.
I swear I almost threw the book against the wall. I'm almost hesitant to keep reading rightn ow.
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his role is going to get 100x harder.
seriously though, (book 3 spoilers)
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basically everyone dies in the book. this is nuts. and if you thought eddard starks decapitation was bad... wait till rob gets backstabbed and murdered at a wedding, gets his and his wolf's heads cut off and they sew the wolfs head onto robs. grrm is seriously messed up
And it's not like line spacing changes between different editions and publications of a book.Poseidon wrote:
@WC - I'm up to page 750.
Poseidon wrote:
hey look it's aussiereaper trying to make a funny and not contributing
hi aussiereaper LoL
read what i said a while ago . not everyone who dies stays dead. way too much voodoo revival going on.Poseidon wrote:
@WC - I'm up to page 750. Afraid to read spoilers at this point
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I was talking about the Red Wedding. Fuck, I know characters die a lot in this series, but 1) I never expected Roose Bolton to betray Robb 2) I didn't expect Robb to die in THIS fashion... though I figured with the whole leech burning thing with Melisandre he was bound to die just as Balon did and 3) I always expected Catelyn to survive to at least book 5. Honestly, even though characters die so suddenly and often, it was still pretty shocking to read. And come on, Grey Wind too? And beheaded? And his head sewn on Robb's body?
I know. I accidentally spoiled myself on the Wiki of Ice And Fire site. I had a feeling after it happened with Beric multiple times.Winston_Churchill wrote:
read what i said a while ago . not everyone who dies stays dead. way too much voodoo revival going on.Poseidon wrote:
@WC - I'm up to page 750. Afraid to read spoilers at this point
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I was talking about the Red Wedding. Fuck, I know characters die a lot in this series, but 1) I never expected Roose Bolton to betray Robb 2) I didn't expect Robb to die in THIS fashion... though I figured with the whole leech burning thing with Melisandre he was bound to die just as Balon did and 3) I always expected Catelyn to survive to at least book 5. Honestly, even though characters die so suddenly and often, it was still pretty shocking to read. And come on, Grey Wind too? And beheaded? And his head sewn on Robb's body?
that said, there are very few main characters from the beginning of the novels left at the end of the 5th.
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but the red wedding was especially bad, that was probably the hardest of all the things to read