Really? Really. I'd expect to get in trouble if I maliciously vigilanted like that.
Well I would rather have a city full of guys like that pharmacist than a city full of those to criminals...How bout you?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Really? Really. I'd expect to get in trouble if I maliciously vigilanted like that.
So you're asking me if I'd rather have dangerous criminals or dangerous crazy men in my city?
g1.
g1.
Well lets see, no prior criminal record, productive member of society. Apparently the only ones that would need to worry about him being "crazy" are little fuckin assholes that pull guns on on him. Yeah I can live with that. I will take the pharmacist, again, how about you?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
So you're asking me if I'd rather have dangerous criminals or dangerous crazy men in my city?
g1.
The more we look at it with the information we have available to us the more the statement I made previously seems reasonable.
Jaekus wrote:
I'd wager the kids would never have shot him and were all full of bravado, which is why the other ran, and the pharmacist was aching for the day he could execute someone, which is why he did it.
Hence, murder one fits this case perfectly.
Hah. No prior criminal record, until now. Just like some serial killers. If he was that malevolent, who's to say he wouldn't have just gotten bored waiting for some armed robbers to do in?lowing wrote:
Well lets see, no prior criminal record, productive member of society. Apparently the only ones that would need to worry about him being "crazy" are little fuckin assholes that pull guns on on him. Yeah I can live with that. I will take the pharmacist, again, how about you?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
So you're asking me if I'd rather have dangerous criminals or dangerous crazy men in my city?
g1.
I'll take neither, thank you.
You know nothing about this guy. Only thing we know is he murdered some punk kid who tried to hold him up. For all we know he could've been dealing drugs on the side with a prostitution ring.lowing wrote:
Well lets see, no prior criminal record, productive member of society. Apparently the only ones that would need to worry about him being "crazy" are little fuckin assholes that pull guns on on him. Yeah I can live with that. I will take the pharmacist, again, how about you?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
So you're asking me if I'd rather have dangerous criminals or dangerous crazy men in my city?
g1.
so you are telling me you are willing to "wager" that the criminals would not have shot HIM. Would you also be willing to "wager" YOU or your kids won't get shot when someone pulls a gun on you?Jaekus wrote:
The more we look at it with the information we have available to us the more the statement I made previously seems reasonable.Jaekus wrote:
I'd wager the kids would never have shot him and were all full of bravado, which is why the other ran, and the pharmacist was aching for the day he could execute someone, which is why he did it.
Hence, murder one fits this case perfectly.
Were you dropped on your head as a baby? Pay attention.
I cannot honestly believe that lowing fails to see what's wrong with executing a defenceless human being who patently poses no threat. Fucked up tbh.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Seriously. Coming back out to finish the job was the nail in both their coffins.
Clearly so, unless you have a one-dimensional view if the world.
one-dimensional, like your nose pressed up against a tv that's playing faux news 24/7?Jaekus wrote:
Clearly so, unless you have a one-dimensional view if the world.
Yeah, but only the stories that you agree with. Don't let the facts get in the way of an opinion, and none of this "let's look at this more objectively" hippy crap.burnzz wrote:
one-dimensional, like your nose pressed up against a tv that's playing faux news 24/7?Jaekus wrote:
Clearly so, unless you have a one-dimensional view if the world.
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and I honestly cannot believe that you fail to see that having a gun pointed in his face and threatened with death did something to the guy, that he normally wouldn't have done.Spark wrote:
I cannot honestly believe that lowing fails to see what's wrong with executing a defenceless human being who patently poses no threat. Fucked up tbh.
I really do love how you label the armed robbers as "defenseless human beings", almost as if they were just poor innocent victims of the pharmacist who decided to go on a shooting spree.
Errrrrrlowing wrote:
and I honestly cannot believe that you fail to see that having a gun pointed in his face and threatened with death did something to the guy, that he normally wouldn't have done.Spark wrote:
I cannot honestly believe that lowing fails to see what's wrong with executing a defenceless human being who patently poses no threat. Fucked up tbh.
I really do love how you label the armed robbers as "defenseless human beings", almost as if they were just poor innocent victims of the pharmacist who decided to go on a shooting spree.
The person was unarmed, yes? He was incapacitated, yes? Tell what possible threat this person presented to him in this state when he went back to get another gun with the express intent of execution.
What this guy deserves under the law is a very long, preferably permanent jail sentence.
What this guy deserves from a more basic-moral-instinctive point of view is to be thrown off a high cliff.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Ya know what I like, I like it when people come here that have been arrested, thrown in jail, OD'ed on drugs, or still do drugs and tell me how stupid and fucked up I am. Always amusing.
yes the criminal was unarmed, and yes he was incapacitated. I did not say he still posed a threat. I said 10 seconds earlier that poor "defenseless human being" was one of two people pointing a gun at the pharmacist threatening him with death, and the pharmacist snapped because of it. I never said it was not murder. All I have ever done was express sympathy for the guy and the situation he was put in and acknowledge the events that sent him over the edge. That was it Spark.Spark wrote:
Errrrrrlowing wrote:
and I honestly cannot believe that you fail to see that having a gun pointed in his face and threatened with death did something to the guy, that he normally wouldn't have done.Spark wrote:
I cannot honestly believe that lowing fails to see what's wrong with executing a defenceless human being who patently poses no threat. Fucked up tbh.
I really do love how you label the armed robbers as "defenseless human beings", almost as if they were just poor innocent victims of the pharmacist who decided to go on a shooting spree.
The person was unarmed, yes? He was incapacitated, yes? Tell what possible threat this person presented to him in this state when he went back to get another gun with the express intent of execution.
What this guy deserves under the law is a very long, preferably permanent jail sentence.
What this guy deserves from a more basic-moral-instinctive point of view is to be thrown off a high cliff.
You are the perfect human being, we all know it.lowing wrote:
Ya know what I like, I like it when people come here that have been arrested, thrown in jail, OD'ed on drugs, or still do drugs and tell me how stupid and fucked up I am. Always amusing.
May I call you Jesus?
How do you know it wa 10 seconds later?lowing wrote:
yes the criminal was unarmed, and yes he was incapacitated. I did not say he still posed a threat. I said 10 seconds earlier that poor "defenseless human being" was one of two people pointing a gun at the pharmacist threatening him with death, and the pharmacist snapped because of it. I never said it was not murder. All I have ever done was express sympathy for the guy and the situation he was put in and acknowledge the events that sent him over the edge. That was it Spark.Spark wrote:
Errrrrrlowing wrote:
and I honestly cannot believe that you fail to see that having a gun pointed in his face and threatened with death did something to the guy, that he normally wouldn't have done.
I really do love how you label the armed robbers as "defenseless human beings", almost as if they were just poor innocent victims of the pharmacist who decided to go on a shooting spree.
The person was unarmed, yes? He was incapacitated, yes? Tell what possible threat this person presented to him in this state when he went back to get another gun with the express intent of execution.
What this guy deserves under the law is a very long, preferably permanent jail sentence.
What this guy deserves from a more basic-moral-instinctive point of view is to be thrown off a high cliff.
How do you know the emotional state of the pharmacist?
How do you know he mentally snapped?
And none of this "if it were me" bullshit. Facts.
10 seconds, a minute later, does it really matter after having a gun shoved in your face?Jaekus wrote:
How do you know it wa 10 seconds later?lowing wrote:
yes the criminal was unarmed, and yes he was incapacitated. I did not say he still posed a threat. I said 10 seconds earlier that poor "defenseless human being" was one of two people pointing a gun at the pharmacist threatening him with death, and the pharmacist snapped because of it. I never said it was not murder. All I have ever done was express sympathy for the guy and the situation he was put in and acknowledge the events that sent him over the edge. That was it Spark.Spark wrote:
Errrrrr
The person was unarmed, yes? He was incapacitated, yes? Tell what possible threat this person presented to him in this state when he went back to get another gun with the express intent of execution.
What this guy deserves under the law is a very long, preferably permanent jail sentence.
What this guy deserves from a more basic-moral-instinctive point of view is to be thrown off a high cliff.
How do you know the emotional state of the pharmacist?
How do you know he mentally snapped?
And none of this "if it were me" bullshit. Facts.
Are you really asking how I know he was upset after having a gun pointed at him and threatened with death? Ummm cuz, we all would be?
Well, he was fine, his customers were fine and there was no danger of anyone getting shot until those criminals burst in waving a gun. Call it a guess
Well, if by perfect you mean never being on drugs, or in jail, yeah well I guess I am.Jaekus wrote:
You are the perfect human being, we all know it.lowing wrote:
Ya know what I like, I like it when people come here that have been arrested, thrown in jail, OD'ed on drugs, or still do drugs and tell me how stupid and fucked up I am. Always amusing.
May I call you Jesus?
Jaekus, if you haven't guessed by now, I don't give a fuck what you call me.
How about an hour later? Day later? Is there a time frame? Come on, tell us.lowing wrote:
10 seconds, a minute later, does it really matter after having a gun shoved in your face?Jaekus wrote:
How do you know it wa 10 seconds later?lowing wrote:
yes the criminal was unarmed, and yes he was incapacitated. I did not say he still posed a threat. I said 10 seconds earlier that poor "defenseless human being" was one of two people pointing a gun at the pharmacist threatening him with death, and the pharmacist snapped because of it. I never said it was not murder. All I have ever done was express sympathy for the guy and the situation he was put in and acknowledge the events that sent him over the edge. That was it Spark.
How do you know the emotional state of the pharmacist?
How do you know he mentally snapped?
And none of this "if it were me" bullshit. Facts.
So emotions make a crime not a crime in your book. Ah ok, got it.Are you really asking how I know he was upset after having a gun pointed at him and threatened with death? Ummm cuz, we all would be?
I can assure you I would not execute someone like he did if I were in his shoes. So it's probably best he's locked away before he can kill more people.Well, he was fine, his customers were fine and there was no danger of anyone getting shot until those criminals burst in waving a gun. Call it a guess
Ok, I take your word for it, Jesus.lowing wrote:
Well, if by perfect you mean never being on drugs, or in jail, yeah well I guess I am.Jaekus wrote:
You are the perfect human being, we all know it.lowing wrote:
Ya know what I like, I like it when people come here that have been arrested, thrown in jail, OD'ed on drugs, or still do drugs and tell me how stupid and fucked up I am. Always amusing.
May I call you Jesus?
Jaekus, if you haven't guessed by now, I don't give a fuck what you call me.
Don't take my word for it, I am not the one calling me perfect. Personally I think you are cheapening the word by claiming never doing drugs or being in jail means I am perfect. I am taking your word for that.Jaekus wrote:
Ok, I take your word for it, Jesus.lowing wrote:
Well, if by perfect you mean never being on drugs, or in jail, yeah well I guess I am.Jaekus wrote:
You are the perfect human being, we all know it.
May I call you Jesus?
Jaekus, if you haven't guessed by now, I don't give a fuck what you call me.
You can however, take my word for the rest. I don't give a shit what you call me