"Governor, please make my school a Prison"...

2011-05-25 10:19:43

#1

Graphic-J: The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J; +196|6386|So Cal

This saddens me...

A school superintendent in Michigan has written a public letter to the editor asking Governor Rick Snyder if his school can become a prison instead:

Letter wrote:
Dear Governor Snyder,

In these tough economic times, schools are hurting. And yes, everyone in Michigan is hurting right now financially, but why aren’t we protecting schools? Schools are the one place on Earth that people look to to “fix” what is wrong with society by educating our youth and preparing them to take on the issues that society has created.

One solution I believe we must do is take a look at our corrections system in Michigan. We rank nationally at the top in the number of people we incarcerate. We also spend the most money per prisoner annually than any other state in the union. Now, I like to be at the top of lists, but this is one ranking that I don’t believe Michigan wants to be on top of.

Consider the life of a Michigan prisoner. They get three square meals a day. Access to free health care. Internet. Cable television. Access to a library. A weight room. Computer lab. They can earn a degree. A roof over their heads. Clothing. Everything we just listed we DO NOT provide to our school children.

This is why I’m proposing to make my school a prison. The State of Michigan spends annually somewhere between $30,000 and $40,000 per prisoner, yet we are struggling to provide schools with $7,000 per student. I guess we need to treat our students like they are prisoners, with equal funding. Please give my students three meals a day. Please give my children access to free health care. Please provide my school district Internet access and computers. Please put books in my library. Please give my students a weight room so we can be big and strong. We provide all of these things to prisoners because they have constitutional rights. What about the rights of youth, our future?!

Please provide for my students in my school district the same way we provide for a prisoner. It’s the least we can do to prepare our students for the future...by giving our schools the resources necessary to keep our students OUT of prison.

Respectfully submitted,

Nathan Bootz, Superintendent, Ithaca Public Schools

http://bigthink.com/ideas/38573

2011-05-25 10:21:16

#2

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5497|Cleveland, Ohio

students live at school? what a stupid letter.

2011-05-25 10:22:55

#3

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5519|foggy bottom

I bet this guy makes a few hundred thousand a year as an administrator

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-25 10:24:48

#4

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

how many of those students will go on to be prisoners

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg

2011-05-25 10:25:12

#5

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

all of them, apparently . . .

2011-05-25 10:27:29

#6

tuckergustav: ...; +1,590|6174|...

Rick Snyder doesn't care. He will just declare a financial emergency there and appoint a dictator. No biggie.

...

2011-05-25 10:27:47

#7

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5497|Cleveland, Ohio

well i am all for spending 30k on kids if it keeps them locked up all day and night.

2011-05-25 10:29:32

#8

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5519|foggy bottom

. . .

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-25 10:29:33

#9

jord: Member; +2,382|6938|The North, beyond the wall.

$7000 per student and they don't even live there. Fuck kids, there's nothing you can't learn on wikipedia/google nowadays.

2011-05-25 10:32:05

#10

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

The A W S M F O X wrote:
This was all covered in my previous post.

2011-05-25 10:33:39

#11

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

just release all prisoners at the border

2011-05-25 10:34:02

#12

tuckergustav: ...; +1,590|6174|...

to Canada? ok

...

2011-05-25 10:46:05

#13

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5959

prison is slavery. anyone who tries to spin prison as something positive is fucking deluded.

2011-05-25 10:48:08

#14

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6997|Cinncinatti

In The Simpsons they made their school a prison

2011-05-25 10:49:47

#15

Graphic-J: The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J; +196|6386|So Cal

13/f/taiwan wrote:
prison is slavery. anyone who tries to spin prison as something positive is fucking deluded.

Murderers, Rapers, Thieves and Paris Hilton deserve to be "enslaved".

Last edited by Graphic-J (2011-05-25 10:50:19)

2011-05-25 10:51:33

#16

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

13/f/taiwan wrote:
prison is slavery. anyone who tries to spin prison as something positive is fucking deluded.

its a timeout chair

2011-05-25 10:56:57

#17

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6483|Escea

RTHKI wrote:
In The Simpsons they made their school a prison

Where students are held in place, with magnets!

2011-05-25 11:00:02

#18

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

M.O.A.B wrote:
RTHKI wrote:
In The Simpsons they made their school a prison
Where students are held in place, with magnets!

like in faceoff

2011-05-25 11:01:28

#19

13rin: Member; +977|6739

Prisons should be run like the one in AZ by Sheriff Arpaio.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-25 11:03:33

#20

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5846

Doesn't the U.S. government sink a shitload of money into poor schools through the department of education? I know that the Newark schools are some of the worst in the country but at the same time get shit loads of Federal money for various things as well as donations from philanthropist groups.

In any case funding doesn't matter when it comes to how well schools do.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/17/19633528_36ccdb5a40.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/15/19633529_7f6b6b01b1.jpg

http://educationnext.org/files/ednext20064_23fig1.gif

http://educationnext.org/files/ednext20064_23fig2.gif

Of course Cherry Hill is one of the states many "moneyed" suburbs while Newark is a shit stain on humanity but it goes to show that funding doesn't have anything to do with school performance. Neither does class size. In has to do with parental involvement and environment. It could be certainly be argued that the state of Michigan is doing the smart thing of trying to clean up the environment first rather than sinking money into the black hole that is Detroit schools.

As much as I love teachers, academia, learning etc. this is just another attempt of the teachers union to grab more money and power. _{for the love of god don't think I'm against teachers unions or their existence}

The truth about the American education system is that there isn't nearly enough parental involvement. If more parents here were involved in their students education our schools would shit all over European and Asian schools. But it's easy for people to complain about funding or take shots at teachers and their unions rather than say the harsh truth that Americans have to put in some fucking effort.

tl;dr Naggers need to take some responsibility.

2011-05-25 11:06:29

#21

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5846

jord wrote:
$7000 per student and they don't even live there. Fuck kids, there's nothing you can't learn on wikipedia/google nowadays.

Rah rah Ivy league rich kids rah rah.
They actually provide a lot of resources that anyone can use.
http://plato.stanford.edu/
Thousands of philosophy articles written by PhD holders in their field open to anyone to read. If you want to learn about stuff the resources are out there.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-05-25 11:49:46)

2011-05-25 11:39:59

#22

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

Every state should have a " education " lottery BUT more money from the lottery needs to get pumped back into the school system

2011-05-25 11:57:59

#23

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5618|London, England

I thought the letter was written by a 3rd grader. How is that guy in charge of teachers?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-25 12:00:31

#24

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5618|London, England

13/f/taiwan wrote:
prison is slavery. anyone who tries to spin prison as something positive is fucking deluded.

Slavery? Really? Prison is not slavery. They aren't forced to work for no pay. Prison is prison. A better comparison would be prison and the military. You volunteer to enter both, the pay is shitty, and you have your daily life micromanaged. Escaping leads to further imprisonment. So no, it's not slavery. That would imply there is no choice.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-25 12:11:37

#25

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|6999|Toronto | Canada

Jay wrote:
I thought the letter was written by a 3rd grader. How is that guy in charge of teachers?

this was my first thought as well. "make students big and strong"

BF2S Forums "Governor, please make my school a Prison"...

Letter wrote:

The A W S M F O X wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

RTHKI wrote:

jord wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

Jay wrote:

Board footer