Showing ID at the polls

2011-05-21 10:11:37

#1

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5962|College Park, MD

In Wisconsin they're trying to pass a law that will require people to show a government-issued photo ID (driver's license or state ID, for example) in order to vote. It's supposed to combat voter fraud.

Critics have argued that it's essentially a poll tax, since a lot of elderly and poor voters may not have IDs. Furthermore, they suspect that it's a play by the party in power to maintain that power by trying to lower the number of voters who tend to vote Democrat.

Thoughts?

Personally I don't quite see the big deal. Don't you need a photo ID to register anyway? I can understand the argument that the elderly and poor may not be able to get to a DMV or other such office, but what if they found a way to overcome that? There's an elderly care home near where I live that has an "MVA Bus" come every week or so, they provide license renewal and other services like that. I believe they also waive the renewal fees for poor people in many if not all states.

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2011-05-21 10:12:58

#2

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

I don't like. This prevents marginal Americans whom, for whatever reason don't have an ID, from voting.

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2011-05-21 10:30:58

#3

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5519|foggy bottom

ID's really arent supposed to be mandatory.

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2011-05-21 10:48:32

#4

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6706|Amsterdam‫

it depends, is having an IDs mandatory in the US? Here we have to show ID when you vote. but there were problems with older people with expired IDs. they changed it now so you can still vote with an ID that has expired 3years.

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2011-05-21 10:51:31

#5

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5519|foggy bottom

having an ID isnt mandatory but every where pretty much the only valid id that is accepted as proof of identfication is a government issued on.

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2011-05-21 10:56:43

#6

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6706|Amsterdam‫

so i can assume almost everybody has one, and for old ppl dont they have an old drivers license they can show. i think it is a good idea, but im used with having one with me all the time

2011-05-21 11:11:04

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SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

they have issued IDs that you would go to the DMV and pick up, looks exactly like a state issued drivers license except it has BOLD lettering that it is only a ID and not a drivers license

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2011-05-21 11:24:33

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Stimey: +786|6380|Ontario | Canada

Thats the rule here in canada. I worked at the last election (was pretty decent money for easy work).
It's one piece of government photo ID with Name and Address, or One non photo piece with name and another non photo with name and address.

Seems reasonable to me, who the fuck doesn't have the proper ID?
Also here in Canada the Health card is basically the same as the drivers liscense.

2011-05-21 11:34:16

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Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

menzo wrote:
so i can assume almost everybody has one, and for old ppl dont they have an old drivers license they can show. i think it is a good idea, but im used with having one with me all the time

Not everyone has a driver's license. Especially where I live.

Making all people get a state license from the court house or DMV/where-ever would be a huge pain in the ass for regular citizens; but all that influx of people is going to necessitate many new jobs to have them processed. So maybe, it's not so bad.

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2011-05-21 11:35:29

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menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6706|Amsterdam‫

but everybody sure has an official or semi official card with their name

2011-05-21 11:37:59

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FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6760|so randum

so you can vote without proof of 'being allowed to vote' ?

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2011-05-21 11:39:45

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Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

menzo wrote:
but everybody sure has an official or semi official card with their name

Some people have: EBT card, debit card, library card, metro card.

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2011-05-21 11:40:44

#13

Sturgeon: Member; +488|5201|Flintshire

You guys will bitch about anything.

You need I.D for a lot of things in life it'd be stupid not to have one.

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2011-05-21 11:41:12

#14

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

FatherTed wrote:
so you can vote without proof of 'being allowed to vote' ?

If I remember correctly, you give your voter card and they show you to your parties voting area.

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2011-05-21 11:42:52

#15

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6828|Mountains of NC

or just don't vote

2011-05-21 11:44:19

#16

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|6999|Toronto | Canada

Stimey wrote:
Thats the rule here in canada. I worked at the last election (was pretty decent money for easy work).
It's one piece of government photo ID with Name and Address, or One non photo piece with name and another non photo with name and address.

Seems reasonable to me, who the fuck doesn't have the proper ID?
Also here in Canada the Health card is basically the same as the drivers liscense.

only cause youre really young i have one of the old cards that doesnt have a picture or have to be renewed every 5 years

2011-05-21 11:44:49

#17

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

SEREMAKER wrote:
or just don't vote

Yeah, but not all non-id holders don't want to vote.

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2011-05-21 11:44:58

#18

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5846

You have to be registered to vote. You get a letter every election time that tells you where you have to go to vote.

Anyway I know Maddow is left and no I don't agree with all of her views but she did a good job here documenting the push to make voting more difficult. I don't agree with Maddow's views on a lot of things but her show is at least well researched.

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2011-05-21 11:45:48

#19

Stimey: +786|6380|Ontario | Canada

Winston_Churchill wrote:
Stimey wrote:
Thats the rule here in canada. I worked at the last election (was pretty decent money for easy work).
It's one piece of government photo ID with Name and Address, or One non photo piece with name and another non photo with name and address.

Seems reasonable to me, who the fuck doesn't have the proper ID?
Also here in Canada the Health card is basically the same as the drivers liscense.
only cause youre really young i have one of the old cards that doesnt have a picture or have to be renewed every 5 years

Me too.
The majority have pictures is what I was trying to say.

2011-05-21 11:47:07

#20

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

Winston_Churchill wrote:
Stimey wrote:
Thats the rule here in canada. I worked at the last election (was pretty decent money for easy work).
It's one piece of government photo ID with Name and Address, or One non photo piece with name and another non photo with name and address.

Seems reasonable to me, who the fuck doesn't have the proper ID?
Also here in Canada the Health card is basically the same as the drivers liscense.
only cause youre really young i have one of the old cards that doesnt have a picture or have to be renewed every 5 years

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The twnoie blew my mind.

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2011-05-21 11:47:13

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5846

No seriously watch the video, it's kinda long but it's really interesting and relevant to this dissuasion.

2011-05-21 11:47:43

#22

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6706|Amsterdam‫

Macbeth wrote:
You have to be registered to vote. You get a letter every election time that tells you where you have to go to vote.

Anyway I know Maddow is left and no I don't agree with all of her views but she did a good job here documenting the push to make voting more difficult. I don't agree with Maddow's views on a lot of things but her show is at least well researched.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5mi0tl5oU

why do yo have to register? cant they just sent your voting card in that letter.

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2011-05-21 11:48:35

#23

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6953

Macbeth wrote:
No seriously watch the video, it's kinda long but it's really interesting and relevant to this dissuasion.

Fine

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2011-05-21 11:49:09

#24

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|6999|Toronto | Canada

Superior Mind wrote:
The twnoie blew my mind.

the what?

2011-05-21 11:51:31

#25

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5846

menzo wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
You have to be registered to vote. You get a letter every election time that tells you where you have to go to vote.

Anyway I know Maddow is left and no I don't agree with all of her views but she did a good job here documenting the push to make voting more difficult. I don't agree with Maddow's views on a lot of things but her show is at least well researched.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5mi0tl5oU
why do yo have to register? cant they just sent your voting card in that letter.

Two reasons I'm guessing. One would be because they want to make sure people vote in elections they are actually allowed to.

Also people can lose their voting rights for felonies.

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