Poll

Does a Nuclear (Weaponized) Iran worry you?

Yes33%33% - 11
No60%60% - 20
Maybe (Explain)6%6% - 2
Total: 33
Kmar
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Overview

https://i.imgur.com/Cx56S.jpgIran became a unique Islamic republic in 1979, when the monarchy was overthrown and religious clerics assumed political control under supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini.

The Iranian revolution put an end to the rule of the Shah, who had alienated powerful religious, political and popular forces with a programme of modernization and Westernization coupled with heavy repression of dissent.

Persia, as Iran was known before 1935, was one of the greatest empires of the ancient world, and the country has long maintained a distinct cultural identity within the Islamic world by retaining its own language and adhering to the Shia interpretation of Islam.

In 2002, US President George W Bush declared Iran as part of an "axis of evil" . While Mr Bush's successor, Barack Obama, has softened his tone, Washington continues to accuse Iran of trying to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran, which has built its first atomic power station - at Bushehr, in the south of the country - with Russian help, says its nuclear ambitions are peaceful. President Ahmadinejad says Iran has an "inalienable right" to produce nuclear fuel.

In 2010, the UN voted to impose a fourth round of sanctions on Iran over the issue. Two months later, Tehran announced that engineers had begun loading fuel into the Bushehr plant and described this as a milestone in the country's drive to produce nuclear energy.
Politics: Conservatives have kept reformers at bay and retain power in the complex system of religious and democratic government
Economy: Iran holds 9% of world oil reserves; a critical shortfall in jobs has hit the young
International: Pressure continues to mount on Iran over its nuclear programme; the UN voted to impose further sanctions over the issue in June 2010
The country has an abundance of energy resources - substantial oil reserves and natural gas reserves second only to those of Russia.

Iran has been led by a conservative elite since 1979, but appeared to be entering another era of political and social transformation with the victory of the liberals in parliamentary elections in 2000.

But the reformists, kept on the political defensive by powerful conservatives in the government and judiciary, failed to make good on their promises.

Former President Mohammad Khatami's support for greater social and political freedoms made him popular with the young - an important factor as around half of the population is under 25.

But his liberal ideas put him at odds with the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, and hardliners reluctant to lose sight of established Islamic traditions.

The elections of June 2005 dealt a blow to the reformists when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Tehran's ultra-conservative mayor, became president.

Mr Ahmadinejad's controversial re-election in June 2009and the violent suppression of subsequent opposition protests has further widened the rift between conservatives and reformists within Iran's political establishment.
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Shahter
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i don't quite agree with the way you posed a question. basically, it's irrelevant wether or not nuclear iran worries anybody, because it should probably be taken as a fact - iran, if it doesn't already, will most probably have nukes in the near future.  what we should start worrying about is how to deal with it.

so, my answer is "no" as in "it's not worth it".
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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The question was absolutely fine. If I punched you in the face and asked you if you liked that, I'd still be curious as to how you felt about it.. despite the fact I punched you square in the mug.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7035|Moscow, Russia

Kmar wrote:

The question was absolutely fine. If I punched you in the face and asked you if you liked that I'd still be curious as to how you felt about it.. despite the fact I punched you square in the mug.
there are very few people who won't be bothered if somebody punched them in the face, and the one who punches would kinda know that in advance. the whole point of punching someone is to make that person feel certain things. asking if it worked would be just silly.
but it's a good example. kinda illustrates my point.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7035|Noizyland

Any country that strives to be nuclear armed concerns me.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:

The question was absolutely fine. If I punched you in the face and asked you if you liked that I'd still be curious as to how you felt about it.. despite the fact I punched you square in the mug.
there are very few people who won't be bothered if somebody punched them in the face, and the one who punches would kinda know that in advance. the whole point of punching someone is to make that person feel certain things. asking if it worked would be just silly.
but it's a good example. kinda illustrates my point.
That's the reason I used such an obvious example. Not to mention I just liked the idea. Even if something is going to happen, in fact, asking what that means or doesn't mean to people is a valid question.  Give it up bub.
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Kmar
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Ty wrote:

Any country that strives to be nuclear armed concerns me.
This is how I feel. I put no as my answer just because the country of Iran specifically doesn't stand out enough to make them exceptional. They are no more worrisome than Pakistan and NK imo.
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BVC
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Obama should offer to host Mahmoud Ahmadinejad & family at the whitehouse for a few nights.  THAT would be showing some balls.
Kmar
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Pubic wrote:

Obama should offer to host Mahmoud Ahmadinejad & family at the whitehouse for a few nights.  THAT would be showing some balls.
I won't go that far. Mahmoud is a clown. Not to mention reports of funding/supplying the insurgency.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7035|Moscow, Russia

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:

The question was absolutely fine. If I punched you in the face and asked you if you liked that I'd still be curious as to how you felt about it.. despite the fact I punched you square in the mug.
there are very few people who won't be bothered if somebody punched them in the face, and the one who punches would kinda know that in advance. the whole point of punching someone is to make that person feel certain things. asking if it worked would be just silly.
but it's a good example. kinda illustrates my point.
That's the reason I used such an obvious example. Not to mention I just liked the idea. Even if something is going to happen, in fact, asking what that means or doesn't mean to people is a valid question.  Give it up bub.
so you wish to have a "debate and serious talk" about how 2 plus 2 equals 4 and if it bothers people, eh? k, have fun.

Last edited by Shahter (2011-05-19 01:09:49)

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:


there are very few people who won't be bothered if somebody punched them in the face, and the one who punches would kinda know that in advance. the whole point of punching someone is to make that person feel certain things. asking if it worked would be just silly.
but it's a good example. kinda illustrates my point.
That's the reason I used such an obvious example. Not to mention I just liked the idea. Even if something is going to happen, in fact, asking what that means or doesn't mean to people is a valid question.  Give it up bub.
so you with to have a "debate and serious talk" about how 2 plus 2 equals 4 and if it bothers people, eh? k, have fun.
There's an obvious divide on the subject, and yes, the competing arguments will likely interest me. Goodbye.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7035|Moscow, Russia

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:


That's the reason I used such an obvious example. Not to mention I just liked the idea. Even if something is going to happen, in fact, asking what that means or doesn't mean to people is a valid question.  Give it up bub.
so you with to have a "debate and serious talk" about how 2 plus 2 equals 4 and if it bothers people, eh? k, have fun.
There's an obvious divide on the subject
really? there are many people who don't worry when someone punches them in the face? and they post here? well... maybe you are right - it' might actually be interesting, as in freakshow interesing.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:


so you with to have a "debate and serious talk" about how 2 plus 2 equals 4 and if it bothers people, eh? k, have fun.
There's an obvious divide on the subject
really? there are many people who don't worry when someone punches them in the face? and they post here? well... maybe you are right - it' might actually be interesting, as in freakshow interesing.
Jesus man.. obviously I was referring back to the topic.
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Dilbert_X
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Not really, no more so than nuclear America or Israel.
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Varegg
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I don't fear a nuclear Iran more than I fear a nuclear US or Russia ...

I think I actually fear a nuclear US more come think of it seeing as the US is the prime agressor and the number one instigator of global unrest in the world since 1953
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7035|Moscow, Russia

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:


There's an obvious divide on the subject
really? there are many people who don't worry when someone punches them in the face? and they post here? well... maybe you are right - it' might actually be interesting, as in freakshow interesing.
Jesus man.. obviously I was referring back to the topic.
"jesus man" yourself. all i did was turn your own analogy on itself.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Varegg wrote:

I don't fear a nuclear Iran more than I fear a nuclear US or Russia ...

I think I actually fear a nuclear US more come think of it seeing as the US is the prime agressor and the number one instigator of global unrest in the world since 1953
That and they have used nukes twice already for no real reason.
Fuck Israel
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Shahter wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Shahter wrote:


really? there are many people who don't worry when someone punches them in the face? and they post here? well... maybe you are right - it' might actually be interesting, as in freakshow interesing.
Jesus man.. obviously I was referring back to the topic.
"jesus man" yourself. all i did was turn your own analogy on itself.
No, somehow you misunderstood what I was referring to. Obviously I wasn't expecting a competing argument about getting punched in the face..lol. u funny
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6935|Canberra, AUS
Trolls already at work in this thread, I see.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Dilbert_X wrote:

Varegg wrote:

I don't fear a nuclear Iran more than I fear a nuclear US or Russia ...

I think I actually fear a nuclear US more come think of it seeing as the US is the prime agressor and the number one instigator of global unrest in the world since 1953
That and they have used nukes twice already for no real reason.
It's safe to say what we (the public in general) know about nuclear weapons now, and what we knew then is very different. The US leaders would have to answer to quite a bit more present day. They'd be held accountable.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6935|Canberra, AUS
Didn't you get the memo Kmar? Anything the US does is evil, for no reason than other than it's the US doing it.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Spark wrote:

Didn't you get the memo Kmar? Anything the US does is evil, for no reason than other than it's the US doing it.
Even when politician gaffe and seemingly allude to the use of nukes it's a major story here.


The implication of using nuclear weapons is sort of taboo. The most recent story I can remember is when Hillary said that if Iran nuked Israel we'd obliterate Iran. People somehow took that as she was warning of a first strike against Iran.
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Varegg
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Spark wrote:

Didn't you get the memo Kmar? Anything the US does is evil, for no reason than other than it's the US doing it.
I don't see anyone else but you making such a claim so far in this thread ... and you complained about trolling?
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6861|132 and Bush

Varegg wrote:

I think I actually fear a nuclear US more come think of it seeing as the US is the prime agressor and the number one instigator of global unrest in the world since 1953
World police. What can we say, we've got some catching up to do.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6935|Canberra, AUS

Kmar wrote:

Spark wrote:

Didn't you get the memo Kmar? Anything the US does is evil, for no reason than other than it's the US doing it.
Even when politician gaffe and seemingly allude to the use of nukes it's a major story here.


The implication of using nuclear weapons is sort of taboo. The most recent story I can remember is when Hillary said that if Iran nuked Israel we'd obliterate Iran. People somehow took that as she was warning of a first strike against Iran.
I would bet my house that a nation-state will not attack with nuclear weapons against another nationstate in my life time or until we have large scale colonies in space. Whichever comes first.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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