BF2S Forums question for the religious fanatics

another A+ thread by yours truly

AussieReaper wrote:

What other valid options are there?

Or can you at least answer a fairly simple question:

Can God create a rock so heavy that even He could not lift it?

Highly doubt you care what God can or cannot lift.  As to the other valid options, here's one.  God is not just omnipotent, He is also just and loving.  His commandments are reflections of His own character.

AussieReaper wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

So you're saying that there are no moral standards other than God's will: without God's commands, nothing would be right or wrong?

So thinking of God as a wise and rational being, one who always acts on good reasons only, is false. Because the acts first and the reason becomes good afterwards.

And you're also arguing that that anything could become good, and anything could become bad, merely upon God's command.

If God had so decided, then an action which is right today could easily become wrong tomorrow, if God so decides. He could make rape a completely morally right thing to do, for instance.

If all morality is a matter of God's will, then if God does not exist, there is no morality. Everything is permissible.

You don't see a problem in any of the above?

No, you assume to much.  Restating Plato overlooks other valid options regarding God and His decisions.

What other valid options are there?

Or can you at least answer a fairly simple question:

Can God create a rock so heavy that even He could not lift it?

man, ignorance is bliss

you misunderstand God's omnipotence.  god can't do everything, he can do everything that's logically possible.  his omnipotence exists along with all of his other attributes, and not as a stand-alone attribute.  we don't understand all of his attributes.  for example, some things he cannot do:

1. cease to exist.  an omnipotent being cannot stop existing, that's logically impossible.
2. cannot love evil.  an omnipotent being who's all-good cannot love evil, that's logically impossible.
3. create another god.  god is infinite, and 2 infinite beings cannot exist, that's logically impossible.
4. change himself.  an immutable being cannot change, that's logically impossible.

so the answer to your question?  see number 3.  god is infinite, and there can only be one infinite being.  if god and a rock were both infinite, neither would actually be infinite because they would be limited by each other.  but an infinite being has no limits, so they can't both be infinite.

if you created a rock that cannot be lifted by an infinite being, then the rock must be infinite.  but if you have an infinite being and an infinite rock, we have two infinite beings.  which is logically impossible.

you aren't clever.  these ridiculous questions pop up everywhere.

ignorance is bliss

truth

eleven bravo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

What other valid options are there?

Or can you at least answer a fairly simple question:

Can God create a rock so heavy that even He could not lift it?

Highly doubt you care what God can or cannot lift.  As to the other valid options, here's one.  God is not just omnipotent, He is also just and loving.  His commandments are reflections of His own character.

its a sin to not capitalize the g in god

also applies to the G in G-Unit!

Your sig is logically impossible!

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I'll assume you guys are excluding Baptists from "Religious fanatics" as you aren't stupid. Since all of you obviously haven't got a clue about them I know you aren't stupid enough to bash something you don't know a darn thing about

I was raised Baptist. Since Born Agains fall under their banner, yes, they are religious fanatics.

Westboro _______ Church.

lmao

RTHKI wrote:

lmao

gay people are sinful because some people believe it to be so

ITT:

ignorant atheists attacking and making fun of religion