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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Thankfully he is only breaking Twitter and nothing important.

i mean, tesla are under investigation for killing people with their cars. elon's top-down style of management has been pretty notorious for dismissing engineers' valid concerns about safety and quality control. it's really not only twitter that are coming under scrutiny.

and, because *markets*, the performance and bad news about twitter should be at least of peripheral concern to tesla shareholders. their stock prices are in some ways related, rational or not.

the guy is busy deluding himself that he understands the back-end of twitter's platform, whilst all the engineering leads he just fired quote tweet him on the very same platform and explain, in layman's terms, why is he talking total arrant nonsense. and this is a micro-blogging site, not a mars colony. it doesn't fill one with confidence that elon musk is the one single human being alive on this planet today who is best-equipped to talk us extra-terrestrial.

even on the level of basic business acumen, the financing of the twitter loan looks disastrous. i saw a breakdown of it earlier from a hedge fund expert and the financing deal is just horrendous. that coupled with the short-term evacuation of revenue that elon has caused with the main advertisers ... really, really not good. twitter could very well not exist in 6 months. he has to service $1.5 billion in interest almost a year alone. that's not a good situation and is not going to draw any more investment or support for the platform, whilst he waits to magically turn it into a subscription-based platform with high rates of customer sign-ups. who is going to put equity in a business when 80% of its annual revenues are paying down interest? lmfao.

uziq wrote:

even on the level of basic business acumen, the financing of the twitter loan looks disastrous. i saw a breakdown of it earlier from a hedge fund expert and the financing deal is just horrendous. that coupled with the short-term evacuation of revenue that elon has caused with the main advertisers ... really, really not good. twitter could very well not exist in 6 months. he has to service $1.5 billion in interest almost a year alone. that's not a good situation and is not going to draw any more investment or support for the platform, whilst he waits to magically turn it into a subscription-based platform with high rates of customer sign-ups. who is going to put equity in a business when 80% of its annual revenues are paying down interest? lmfao.

it is so bad that the banks can't even offload it at a 70% discount and yeah they're getting paid huge interest due to the size of the deal.

uziq wrote:

i think discord summoned a bit of that with its IRC-lite energy.

I think I agree. Also, discord is a platform that has spun out a lot of amusing c s b's about man-child moderator creepazoids and (less amusingly) outright stalkers. Especially nerd-bro game channels, especially streamer channels (lmao). A lot of forum vibe survives in discord, channeling a lot of what I remember from the 90s and aughts. BF2S is pretty much the only one I sit in on.

Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Thankfully he is only breaking Twitter and nothing important.

He's in the midst of a tesla shareholder lawsuit over his compensation and one of the questions raised was whether elon was focused enough on tesla.

Twitter became a communications platform for elected officials. Not to mention the livelihoods of unceremoniously dumped employees because Musk was in a tiff. Not to forget the above-mentioned lives affected by various issues at Tesla and with Tesla vehicles. Things hardly of no import.

If something happened that hurt dilbert or mac or damaged their careers (or dilbert's stocks), I'm sure we'd be hearing about it here as if it were the worst thing on the planet.

Every car maker kills people.

Autodrive is a step too far, but there's no progress without risk.

Up to now he's done pretty well, but, like you, his drug use has addled his mind.

Dilbert_X wrote:

He's clearly lost his mind, up to that point he wasn't doing that well was he, only creating multiple multi-billion-dollar companies.

how the mighty has fallen i guess

no, he didn't create tesla or spacex out of thin air? this is easily verifiable information?

but keep ranting. why don't you do a little bit of reading, pray child?

successful engineer? please give me examples of his engineering at tesla or spacex?

the only original contribution he made to a company was early net code for his dot-com era companies. he hasn't engineered a single thing for tesla or spacex.

i think a better question is why are you so deluded as to this man? taken by his PR?

you do realise he has entire teams who rewrite his biography and company information on wikipedia, right? you know that 'humanities twerps' are told in day 1 of their undergraduate studies not to cite wikipedia as an authoritative source, right? it's not hard to piece together the early chronology of tesla (which existed long before musk ever showed up) and spaceX without using wikipedia's highly groomed summary.

you are hopelessly stupid dilbert.

i also rant about bezos and zuckerberg all the time? i have firmly been of the opinion that all billionaires are policy failures and should not exist.

why aren't you ever as excited about the female engineer who did genuinely build spaceX as a successful going concern, and who really did bring the necessary expertise to the operation? there's another good question for you. pretending that elon musk understands rocket science, let alone contributed anything of engineering worth to the company, is fucking hilarious. elon musk hasn't even got a graduate degree in engineering.

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-15 03:00:15)

you really are an immature little twerp.

there are entire books written on the early days of tesla, and elon's actions and actual contributions. go look them up.

an 'engineering company' doesn't have to be helmed by anyone with engineering nous. are you really this dumb? the C-suite, outside of the CTO, don't have to know the first thing about rocket propulsion or EV batteries. elon's contributions, such as they have been, have mostly been to seek government subsidies and investor funding to scale-up his operations to their current size. he doesn't have a single fucking thing to do with engineering.

this is why i think elon is funny: because it's all pretense, all image, all PR bluster, all bullshit. 'elon personally interviewed all of the engineers at spacex'. lol, okay. because a guy with a bachelor's degree really knows how to vet world-class rocket scientists on their engineering skills, right? use your head you twerp. you want to believe in this guy so much that it honestly seems desperate. he's the figurehead and the money-man who everyone has to humour when he goes off on his make-believe 'polymath genius' act. he doesn't actually know anything of substance on these topics, dilbert.

i keep 'bringing up' musk? it's been one the top news stories in recent weeks. i'm not dragging up a recherche or zombie topic, here. it's not every day that some idiot burns $30bn dollars in real time and broadcasts it in a very public way to the watching world.

why do i need to talk about FTX in this conversation? what's the relevance? his entire circle were staffed by MIT engineers. i thought they were noble people? why are STEM eggheads partaking in crypto-scams, hmm? what's the logical relevance in this discussion? because he has a jewish surname? that sure builds a great argument!

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-15 03:12:31)

you have zero critical thinking skills. if i'm obsessed with elon musk, you clearly are very libidinally invested in this idea of the 'genius engineering CEO'. because that is not what elon musk is. you simply need to believe in such a figure because your own identity is based around it.

i'm not asking you to think harder about wikipedia sources for the sake of english essays, dilbert. i'm telling you to think critically about how musk controls his narrative and public image. that's because, when you're at the helm of several massively overvalued companies, the main necessary skill in business is to command the confidence of (future) investors. it's a confidence act. elon musk has cultivated an image of being a polymathic god-brain who has singlehandedly revolutionised 2/3 industries, to the point of amending the histories of his own companies (tesla especially). that's because the media lap it up. and being able to drop some engineering-sounding gobbledigook at a TED talk or in a VC meeting is indeed all the necessary skills he needs to continue growing his companies. he's not actually double-checking the work of rocket engineers, dilbert. for fuck's sake.

Musk has a physics degree, I'm confident he has more idea about rockets than you do.

he has a joint honours in physics and business, lol. if you think that equips someone to personally oversee groundbreaking research in EV and rocket science, you really are more clueless than i ever imagined. he enrolled on a PhD at stanford and dropped out very early in the course. in terms of education, he is basically on a tier with this stanford dropout.



who with her few years of undergraduate education was supposedly able to revolutionise biomedical sciences, amirite? think critically ffs. for someone who places a high value on scientific expertise, you sure do dupe yourself.

'he leads engineering companies'. lol. oh i guess he is intimately familiar with cutting-edge science in that case! i think even a CEO like carlos ghosn would say that business skills come way above any sort of engineering skills in their roles.

the guy quite evidently doesn't even understand the code behind a microblogging website, somehow i very, very much doubt he has an expert grasp or played a crucial hand in developing rockets that can land themselves.

Last edited by uziq (2022-11-15 03:39:42)

I'm looking forward to some Saudi princeling buying instagram with his pocket change so he can change the rules to preclude any pictures of women except in burkas.