Larssen
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Someone tried to tell me today that the neoconservative ventures into the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were worse than whatever Stalin and Pol Pot did.

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unnamednewbie13
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Not always as easy as just not talking to a person, I guess. All that stuff in the middle east is still a mess, though. It's hard to pretend that loading up towns with depleted uranium isn't terrible.
Larssen
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Only someone who doesn't know shit about either stalin or pol pot or the iraq and afghanistan wars would entertain this argument.

I don't usually consider making these things a pissing contest and don't remember how we got there again, but it's a good reminder that most of us have no idea how terrible reality can be (& much of history was).
SuperJail Warden
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Looks like shoddy construction was the cause of the Miami collapse.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Looks like shoddy construction was the cause of the Miami collapse.
There are causes behind shoddy construction, was it poor design or poor site practice? Seems to be poor design.

Whether that poor design was incompetence or cost-cutting who knows.

In my engineering career I've never had an experience where a customer has said "your bid is below what I was expecting, I'm happy to pay more to get better quality"

Plenty of experiences where I've told the customer "we can meet your price and exceed the spec, or equal the spec and cut the price" every time the response is "Do you think I'm stupid? Give me the cheapest"

Also what seem like trivial details like weatherproofing and drainage really are important, but few people give a shit because they know they'll be long gone before problems start to get serious.

And "in a timely manner" is engineer-speak for "really fucking urgently".
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SuperJail Warden
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From what I have read (and I admit I didn't read too deep into the NYT alert), there was less rebar in some columns in reality than there were in the blueprints for the building. They don't think the lack of rebar in that one area caused the collapse but it most likely is the start of them finding other areas where the blueprints don't match up with the building. I can only assume it was some cost cutting going on.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57711581

I think we need a "It can't be connected to global warming" thread.
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unnamednewbie13
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I'm sure Jay would have some disparaging words for the guy in that article feeling sad about his mother and grandmother.
Dilbert_X
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Where is Jay to tell us that the free market will deal with things like shoddy construction bringing down a building after the developer has died.
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unnamednewbie13
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I stopped following the story in earnest. Did it turn out to be shoddy construction, inappropriate blueprints for the land type, or just what happens to a perfectly good building when the land shifts like that causing it to sink?

Up front, I would be most suspicious of inspectors and building owners for just sitting on the warning signs. Now people are dead.
SuperJail Warden
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I thought you would be more interested in the story. 'My home falling on me' sounds like something you would spend time ruminating on.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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It's not that it isn't interesting, just that early reporting is pretty useless for stuff like this. Get a bunch of people writing about what maybe happened before investigation finds out what actually happened. Competing theories, some from non-experts. I figured I'd take a look awhile later rather than entertain BLM terrorist strikes or whatever.
Dilbert_X
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https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20 … n-lockdown

At least people are using extravert instead of extrovert, like they're supposed to.
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unnamednewbie13
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Pushing all that introvert/extr(o/a)vert nonsense, and the memes about ADHD, OCD, depression, "I'm pretty sure I have this undiagnosed disorder," and armchair psychology commentary about public figures are social media's cringiest contributions to casual conversation. If you want to wear something as an arbitrary badge, become a Star Wars fan or something. You're not an introvert, Linda. Introvert/extrovert "pride" isn't a real thing. That personality test you took on a quiz site is not a diagnosis. Vacuuming cobwebs off your ceiling isn't OCD. Biden doesn't have Alzheimer's because Tucker Carlson hinted at it.
unnamednewbie13
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Why introverts didn't actually 'win' lockdown
Many assumed that introverts would thrive during the solitary life of lockdown. Yet many are reporting enormous relief at their return to socialising.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20 … n-lockdown

Ronson’s views were shared by many others across the world. A journalist at the news site Bloomberg declared that introverts would find the experience of lockdown “liberating”.  Reuters ran with the headline “No parties, no problem: Introverts don't mind sheltering at home”. One columnist for the Daily Telegraph in Australia even chastised the “introvert pride” movement for “taunting” extraverts with their unalloyed enjoyment during the crisis. “Get some perspective. Please,” he wrote.

The reality, however, turns out to be far different. Psychologists have now tested the influence of personality on people’s mental health during the pandemic – and their results suggest that introverts found it much harder to cope with the isolation than many had expected. Besides highlighting some common misconceptions about different personality types and their need to socialise, the insights from these studies can help us all to navigate life post-lockdown, as we start to mingle once again.
uziq
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcast/ada … n-ayn-rand

one of my old professors laying into ayn rand. pretty amusing. where's jay galt?
Dilbert_X
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It would be good if it had been done by someone with an actual job.
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SuperJail Warden
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Considering the amount of money tied up in education, I don't see how frontline workers teachers aren't real workers. They even made teachers wear face mask in classrooms as if they are working the register at a McDonalds.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

It would be good if it had been done by someone with an actual job.
a professor and critically lauded sci-fi writer?

what do you do again?
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Considering the amount of money tied up in education, I don't see how frontline workers teachers aren't real workers. They even made teachers wear face mask in classrooms as if they are working the register at a McDonalds.
teaching is like 15% of a professor’s job, max.

the guy PhD’d at cambridge and worked his way up the slippery pole to full professor in his 40s. he’s published about 10 serious academic books. AND became a respected, famous sci-fi writer in his spare time. he’s been nominated or won every major sci-fi prize there is.

his expertise is such that he gets invited onto podcasts with national papers.

meanwhile dilbert has stagnated in the same job/company for about 10 years. rather than writing 10 books in that time period, he’s penned 10 pages of rage in the ‘job problems’ thread.

lol but okay. ‘professors don’t do real work’. you gotta sit at a lathe for that!
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Why introverts didn't actually 'win' lockdown
Many assumed that introverts would thrive during the solitary life of lockdown. Yet many are reporting enormous relief at their return to socialising.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20 … n-lockdown

Ronson’s views were shared by many others across the world. A journalist at the news site Bloomberg declared that introverts would find the experience of lockdown “liberating”.  Reuters ran with the headline “No parties, no problem: Introverts don't mind sheltering at home”. One columnist for the Daily Telegraph in Australia even chastised the “introvert pride” movement for “taunting” extraverts with their unalloyed enjoyment during the crisis. “Get some perspective. Please,” he wrote.

The reality, however, turns out to be far different. Psychologists have now tested the influence of personality on people’s mental health during the pandemic – and their results suggest that introverts found it much harder to cope with the isolation than many had expected. Besides highlighting some common misconceptions about different personality types and their need to socialise, the insights from these studies can help us all to navigate life post-lockdown, as we start to mingle once again.
There are levels to being an introvert. Not every introvert is an incel basement creature. I prefer to stay inside getting high alone and watching people go boom on reddit but I can be charming, social, and friendly too. I really liked WFH and would like to do that again but I did mention here that getting up and out of the house every day gave me more energy. It's also nice having options and being vaccinated you no longer have to look suspiciously at someone coughing while on line at the Walmart with you.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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most vaccines only give 70-80% immunity to the new variants. i would still avoid people coughing on me.

i intend to wear masks on public transport or in busy stores for the foreseeable future. as long as there’s air con, they are no bother to me whatsoever (wearing the double-layered masks in this summer heat+humidity is a total wipeout, by contrast).
Dilbert_X
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Its down nearer 60% after six months

This was only the beta released by accident, wait until China deliberately releases the fully weaponised version
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uziq
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most vaccines 'wear off' over time. that's just how it is with viruses that mutate often. stop being so fucking alarmist all the time.

and we don't have enough longitudinal data to really assert that. the best guess right now is at least 6 months, but possibly several years.

in any case, wheels are already in motion to create booster shots, to be distributed in autumn/winter. this was the standard operating procedure even before variants arrived. it's what the pharma industry does, year on year, with flu mutations, also. there was always an expectation that we would need to maintain serological analysis on covid for the foreseeable, and to tweak the vaccines accordingly.

for a scientist you sure do love hysteria. do you hyperventilate at the idea of needing booster jabs for various illnesses before you travel abroad, too?

Last edited by uziq (2021-07-13 07:11:31)

SuperJail Warden
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Cases are up 90% over a 2 week period in the U.S. That is not a good trend. People are mentally done with this though. I hear stories about countries going back into lockdown and find it strange by American standards. No way in hell is the U.S. going back into lockdown. Even blue state democrat Governors are all in on reopening.

I think Trump's subhuman followers are somewhat right when they argue COVID was used to take down Trump. I mean we had 200,000 deaths between January and now and not as much attention given to it. Probably because our hospitals aren't being overwhelmed at this moment. The big test will be when the north starts to freeze up in the winter.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg

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