Assuming this was a sincere question, I'm not as opposed to the idea as previously. I like to know people before I get into a relationship, so if that question was seriously being considered, I'd have to perceive some connection. Then comes the intriguing questions about the mouthfeel.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Would you date a trans woman?
Oh hell no
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Wow, that's really brave of you to admit you would be open to the idea. You would probably make some trans girl very happy. I guess a lot of them dream of having a boyfriend who treats them like a lady. I can see a trans girl being a more reliable partner than a lot of trashy girls going around.
i really don't care what people are into. seems with sexuality that all bets are off. there's a lot of freakishness and kinks out there. i don't really register personally on any of those scales in my own tastes/proclivities, but 'more power' to anyone who does. so long as its between two consenting adults and they're made happier/fulfilled/satisfied by it, then who can possibly care? there are far worse evils in this world than what people get up to with their private parts and dangly bits.
you notice that people who are excessively concerned with 'norms' or 'correct' behaviour are nearly always socially or psycho-sexually constipated in some way themselves. dilbert is an amazing example. a guy who probably has some low-level pet theories about 'white replacement theory' and how gays/lesbians and the blacks and the muslim are 'extinguishing white civilization'. meanwhile he's going to vanish without leaving a trace by way of that master-race white progeny.
you notice that people who are excessively concerned with 'norms' or 'correct' behaviour are nearly always socially or psycho-sexually constipated in some way themselves. dilbert is an amazing example. a guy who probably has some low-level pet theories about 'white replacement theory' and how gays/lesbians and the blacks and the muslim are 'extinguishing white civilization'. meanwhile he's going to vanish without leaving a trace by way of that master-race white progeny.
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I think a lot of incels should become open to the idea of homosexuality, dating ugly women, etc. A lot of life problems don't seem so bad once you start to get laid regularly. That could just be me being a weirdo though.
having unrealistic expectations and over-estimating self-worth/desirability is a prime trait of incels, though. cf. eliot rodgers.
there's a generation of men who are total goobers, who get angry that women don't find them attractive. but they meanwhile cultivate un-attractive personalities, pick-up artist bullshit, objectifying women, etc. meanwhile they have this toxic attitude about 'chads' whilst sitting on discord or IRC all day or whatever, bitching.
there's a generation of men who are total goobers, who get angry that women don't find them attractive. but they meanwhile cultivate un-attractive personalities, pick-up artist bullshit, objectifying women, etc. meanwhile they have this toxic attitude about 'chads' whilst sitting on discord or IRC all day or whatever, bitching.
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I have two incel guys I know in real life who used to be friends but don't talk anymore. I think they had a gay experience together and one of them doesn't want to live life as an open bisexual person. Someone mentioned something about a blow job and I didn't care enough to investigate the situation any further. Shame. They would have been good for each other.
A lot of incels profess beliefs about women that you have shared here, Macbeth. Just because you don't have the same self-loathing they do doesn't mean some of your views on women aren't toxic, buddy.
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I don't know what toxic views on women you think I have. I am a male feminist. That's why I got a job as admin of a women's shelter.
"I no incel, I jokey internet guy"
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Literally not an incel 🤷♂️
"I no supporter of toxic views of women, I just jokey internet guy"
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I am sure I have some views that wouldn't fly at a social justice event but I can't think of any specifically that are overly toxic.
are you bi or bi-curious or whatever? just wondering. i doubt the opportunity would ever come up but i wouldn't be opposed to the idea of a hot trans woman giving me a blowjob or handjob. i realize that's gay but i'm being real. i def wouldn't wanna kiss or have actual sex with one, even if they had a fake vagina or whatever. i honestly don't think i could get hard but idk. i respect transexuals or whatever and i will call them whatever pronoun they want but when it comes down to it they are technically still male to me so idk.DesertFox- wrote:
Assuming this was a sincere question, I'm not as opposed to the idea as previously. I like to know people before I get into a relationship, so if that question was seriously being considered, I'd have to perceive some connection. Then comes the intriguing questions about the mouthfeel.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Would you date a trans woman?
anyways i've spent a lot of time in really gay-ish areas etc and haven't even really had that many interactions with them. they are such a small part of the population like i don't get why ppl care what they do. it honestly doesn't matter lol
gang shit
It's just cute how overweeningly invested supposedly straight people are in what some men wear, especially when you analyze clothing through the lens of history (heels, skirts, etc).DesertFox- wrote:
I would think the mark of having moved past our existing schemas is when it no longer needs to be justified. I think it was on one article of schoolboys somewhere not being allowed to wear shorts so they took to wearing skirts instead that there was a bunch of dudes commenting how kilts are comfortable in various circumstances. I've never worn one, so I can't speak to any of the tradeoffs, though.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Any man can be judged on appearances. Clothing is just another variable. I remember when Star Trek TNG was new and a random male crewmember walking around in a uniform skirt stirred up all sorts of panic and condemnation. "Daring beyond belief!" "It's the year 2400 but how dare they don't conform to 20th century 'rules.'" I never did see a dude in a skirt on that show again, though I didn't complete the series.
There's a niche push to get the term "crossdressing" made obsolete, but I think it will still be relevant as long as male fashion trends differ from female. I think effort should instead be directed instead at changing it into something not pejorative. As lines continue to blur this could be something that happens on its own.
It's related to trans stuff I think because dressing up can be a big part of someone's effort to "pass" in part so the macbeths restroom defenders of the world won't notice and will leave them alone, letting them have a normal day.
You're also not wrong in that if no one cared about such things, trans people of all types would likely have less problems in their interpersonal interactions.
Cookie cutter "I identify as a helicopter" argumentation, thoroughly debunked as bad analogy but kept on lifesupport by homophobic dude-bros, mopey conservative boomers, and people who buy meme-marketed products for their balls.Dilbert_X wrote:
I would date a mermaid
90% of this trans/cross-dressing crap is people acting out to gain attention, the real transgender people just get on with it quietly.
"Look at me! Me! Me! Me!" We shouldn't be encouraging it.
I don't have any fixed views on mer-people, it seems harmless.
A lot of trans people are very self-conscious about their appearance, and desperate to "blend in" and draw less attention to themselves. There is a whole niche industry around it.
Questions like macbeth's "would you date a tranny" are valid (people are free to make their own decisions here), but almost always framed in a backhanded dig at transpeople, subtext: "oh, so you wouldn't? Proof that they're not a real <this> or <that>." Like come on, people have plenty of body type preferences outside of trans issues. Why does such a small demographic deserve so much definition and micromanagement from the outside?
"would you date a trans person" is a valid question, sure. Presenting it as, "find out which one is the tranny, haha tricked you guys" is specious and only serves to embolden a position where women cannot be women unless they look pretty, like the "youtuber trans person Desertfox posted". Which goes back to one of your points, that of people trying to fit in and make it a part of their identity. People will complain that trans people are dressing as the opposite sex, then complain that trans people don't look enough like the gender they see themselves as and as a result are gross.
It reeks of insecurity. Meanwhile Macbeth professes that he wants to be a cop so that he can marry a nice teacher. Imagine thinking that you have to join a certain shit occupation just to have a chance at settling down and getting married. Pathetic and all projection.
It reeks of insecurity. Meanwhile Macbeth professes that he wants to be a cop so that he can marry a nice teacher. Imagine thinking that you have to join a certain shit occupation just to have a chance at settling down and getting married. Pathetic and all projection.
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I don't know why you keep doubling back all of this to me. All I ever wanted to do was make the world safe for women. Trans women are women too and I want what's best for them also. Male teachers marry nurses by the way.
Remember when you compared your underage cousin to a porn star? How about when you talk about women in Islamic societies without discussing the agency of those women at all? How about your objectification and fetishization of Asian women.
Clearly you consistently demonstrate a want to keep women safe here. Should I actually go through some of your posts too? I'll start with the #metoo thread you started, k?
You aren't supposed to be a clown until next month, so how come you've been cosplaying as one for so long?
Clearly you consistently demonstrate a want to keep women safe here. Should I actually go through some of your posts too? I'll start with the #metoo thread you started, k?
You aren't supposed to be a clown until next month, so how come you've been cosplaying as one for so long?
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Are you having a bad day?
I wouldn't say so to either. I grant that last sentence is gratuitous, but I said it as a nod to the aforementioned YouTuber who made it somewhat of an in-joke applying wine-tasting terms to the penis. I'm entirely speculating based on how I think I would act, since I don't have experiential knowledge to draw from. If it seriously being considered whether or not I'd be doing something sexual with a transgender woman, a prerequisite to that stage would be that I'm at least somewhat emotionally invested. Hence, I think I'd need to figure out what I'd be open to in order to make the experience enjoyable for them.lil_droo wrote:
are you bi or bi-curious or whatever? just wondering. i doubt the opportunity would ever come up but i wouldn't be opposed to the idea of a hot trans woman giving me a blowjob or handjob. i realize that's gay but i'm being real. i def wouldn't wanna kiss or have actual sex with one, even if they had a fake vagina or whatever. i honestly don't think i could get hard but idk. i respect transexuals or whatever and i will call them whatever pronoun they want but when it comes down to it they are technically still male to me so idk.DesertFox- wrote:
Assuming this was a sincere question, I'm not as opposed to the idea as previously. I like to know people before I get into a relationship, so if that question was seriously being considered, I'd have to perceive some connection. Then comes the intriguing questions about the mouthfeel.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Would you date a trans woman?
anyways i've spent a lot of time in really gay-ish areas etc and haven't even really had that many interactions with them. they are such a small part of the population like i don't get why ppl care what they do. it honestly doesn't matter lol
It is interesting that you essentially repeated yourself by suggesting that doing some things would be "gay" but then also stated they are male to you, because essentially they would by definition need to be male for it to be gay, correct? I'm not gonna chastise you for that outlook or anything as if anything I think is any more "correct", but I suspect that is a fairly common reaction to what you rightly point out seems to be somewhat of a uncommon phenomenon in society.
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This is an interesting page. I am being serious with my line of questions. Do you feel the ContraPoints lady is attractive enough for you to be open to fooling around with her if you made an emotional connection? Have you ever found a trans lady you saw on the internet attractive?
Also I am very sorry if I ever said something about trans people that made you uncomfortable with being sexually open to them. I will be more considerate.
Also I am very sorry if I ever said something about trans people that made you uncomfortable with being sexually open to them. I will be more considerate.
I've seen plenty of trans women i would consider hot. IRL even!
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I have never met any in real life. I would probably be flattered if one gave me attention. I have been in situations where I was never interested in a girl until she showed interest/attraction to me. So I don't know how I would feel about a specific one if I got to know her.
I'd say she's attractive at present, though I can't say how much is related to physical appearance and how much is related to what I like about the personality she puts forth.. The tricky bit is where that line is drawn, though. She's had facial feminization surgery and earlier in her transition, her voice was a lot more masculine, to the point where I feel kind of embarrassed when I've see it like it's something I shouldn't be watching.
I don't really know many other trans people. I only know I clocked an actress in the Netflix show You based on her voice sounding weird, but as I think I said earlier, I don't know of many others besides Caitlyn Jenner.
Why are you apologizing to me? I'm just some dude. No offense to you, Mac, but I don't exactly come here looking for opinions to hold in the highest of esteem. Nothing anyone on this forum says is probably gonna send me over the edge emotionally. If you've said something denigrating about trans people in the past, they should be the ones who might appreciate that if you've changed.
I don't really know many other trans people. I only know I clocked an actress in the Netflix show You based on her voice sounding weird, but as I think I said earlier, I don't know of many others besides Caitlyn Jenner.
Why are you apologizing to me? I'm just some dude. No offense to you, Mac, but I don't exactly come here looking for opinions to hold in the highest of esteem. Nothing anyone on this forum says is probably gonna send me over the edge emotionally. If you've said something denigrating about trans people in the past, they should be the ones who might appreciate that if you've changed.
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Well I consider you very brave for being able to openly admit you would be willing to have a relationship with one. And you got Androo and Ken to admit to finding some attractive and in Androo's case willingness to engage sexually with one. I have kind of moderated my views towards the whole thing lately.DesertFox- wrote:
I'd say she's attractive at present, though I can't say how much is related to physical appearance and how much is related to what I like about the personality she puts forth.. The tricky bit is where that line is drawn, though. She's had facial feminization surgery and earlier in her transition, her voice was a lot more masculine, to the point where I feel kind of embarrassed when I've see it like it's something I shouldn't be watching.
I don't really know many other trans people. I only know I clocked an actress in the Netflix show You based on her voice sounding weird, but as I think I said earlier, I don't know of many others besides Caitlyn Jenner.
Why are you apologizing to me? I'm just some dude. No offense to you, Mac, but I don't exactly come here looking for opinions to hold in the highest of esteem. Nothing anyone on this forum says is probably gonna send me over the edge emotionally. If you've said something denigrating about trans people in the past, they should be the ones who might appreciate that if you've changed.
If you did meet the ContraPoints lady in real life and found her both physically and personally attractive what would you be willing to do with her sexually? Would you be open to touching her penis or more?