Jay
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Black and woman kills 2 birds
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The BBC article also says someone named Marian Anderson is going to be on the $5 bill. I had to look her up because I'd never even heard of her. If they're changing people on the banknotes, they should just revamp them all at once. It doesn't even really make sense currently with Ben Franklin because it's like "Presidents & Friends". (I realize we had Susan B. Anthony and others on coins and possibly paper money before, but none of those really survived.)
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They are also putting Eleanor Roosevelt and MLK on the $5.

They should have put Pocahontas on the $20 and took Jackson off. That would have been perfect. also
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H Tubs on the new dubs.  Nice

Also, i think it's a little silly how much people are pretending to care about switching up the portraits on our currency.  It's a feigned outrage, to be sure.
Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

They are also putting Eleanor Roosevelt and MLK on the $5.

They should have put Pocahontas on the $20 and took Jackson off. That would have been perfect. also
What in the world did Eleanor Roosevelt ever do to deserve having her face on money? She married a president. That's her claim to fame. Why not put Lady Bird Johnson on the $5? Stupid.
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Jay wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

They are also putting Eleanor Roosevelt and MLK on the $5.

They should have put Pocahontas on the $20 and took Jackson off. That would have been perfect. also
What in the world did Eleanor Roosevelt ever do to deserve having her face on money? She married a president. That's her claim to fame. Why not put Lady Bird Johnson on the $5? Stupid.
Following her husband's death, Roosevelt remained active in politics for the rest of her life. She pressed the United States to join and support the United Nations and became its first delegate. She served as the first chair of the UN Commission on Human Rights, and oversaw the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Later she chaired the John F. Kennedy administration's Presidential Commission on the Status of Women.
in fairness to you though, i had to check wikipedia. so your point still semi stands.
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Kate Middleton married a prince to become famous. Eleanor Roosevelt, neice of a president and from a wealthy family, married a distantly related politician who contracted polio and nearly left the political scene altogether. She supported him as he was eventually elected to the presidency. As First Lady, she was far more active than just hosting cotillions in the Rose Garden and became an early civil rights advocate for a number of groups. As such, she was deeply involved in creating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the UN Commission on Human Rights, which she chaired.

Really wasn't a looker, though. Yeesh.
Jay
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Still not impressed. Put Molly Pitcher on the $5, she deserves it more.
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I think one of the criteria for inclusion is being an actual person who existed. The UDHR is a great accomplishment. One of the few genuinely good things the west pushed into the world.
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Spain issues warrants for Russian officials alleged to be linked to crime gang
- https://www.yahoo.com/news/spain-issues … 55655.html

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Over the weekend, voters in McKinney, Texas voted to publicly finance the construction of a new $62.8 million 12,000-seat high school football stadium. The McKinney Independent School District proposition included issuing a $220 million bond to improve facilities at local public schools, among them what will be the most expensive high school football stadium in the country. “We’re visionaries,” the district superintendent said after the measure passed.
A high school with a 60 million dollar concussion factory. Local funding of schools through property taxes is once again shown to be an awful system.
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Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Over the weekend, voters in McKinney, Texas voted to publicly finance the construction of a new $62.8 million 12,000-seat high school football stadium. The McKinney Independent School District proposition included issuing a $220 million bond to improve facilities at local public schools, among them what will be the most expensive high school football stadium in the country. “We’re visionaries,” the district superintendent said after the measure passed.
A high school with a 60 million dollar concussion factory. Local funding of schools through property taxes is once again shown to be an awful system.
How? They voted on it. Dumb? Yes, but they're the ones paying for it so what do you care?
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you are very consistent MacBeth

it looks like that one turned out ok in retrospect (and after retrofits)
Jay
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Man, I hate reading my old posts. It's like watching myself on video, just gives me the willies.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

you are very consistent MacBeth

it looks like that one turned out ok in retrospect (and after retrofits)
I remember posting that and thought this was the same stadium. Texas is really a Christian Saudi Arabia the way they waste money.
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but is it a waste?  The first stadium seems to be doing well, and is on the way to turning a profit.

I'm not generally a fan of publicly financed stadiums, but the financing of PRIVATE stadiums should be far higher on your whine list.  It's professional sports teams that should draw your ire, not public high school stadiums.  Public financing of private stadiums has been studied extensively and the conclusion is almost always that it is a net negative for the public, but absolutely wonderful for the private beneficiaries.
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Profit or not, I don't think schools should be involved with sports in such a big way. High school to college, it doesn't matter. Frankly, I think American school sports culture is an embarrassment.
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Sports teach you about working with a large group, sacrificing personal goals for the good of the group, leadership, etc.  Team sports had a positive impact on me growing up into the well-rounded individual I am now.

Sure, sports culture in general is a little nonsensical, and I say this as a huge professional sports fan. But it's not all negative.

On the list of Things to be Concerned About, school sports culture is very far down.
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Texas literally has the lowest high school completion rate in the entire country. 79.9%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U … attainment

there is no way you can argue that the $120,000,000 for those stadiums was the best way to use that money. I know the local muppets wanted it which is half of the problem.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

but is it a waste?  The first stadium seems to be doing well, and is on the way to turning a profit.

I'm not generally a fan of publicly financed stadiums, but the financing of PRIVATE stadiums should be far higher on your whine list.  It's professional sports teams that should draw your ire, not public high school stadiums.  Public financing of private stadiums has been studied extensively and the conclusion is almost always that it is a net negative for the public, but absolutely wonderful for the private beneficiaries.
A field of corn is more productive than a stadium.

A simple mown field and a whistle is all you need to learn to be a team player, not a $60m stadium.

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Jay
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Texas literally has the lowest high school completion rate in the entire country. 79.9%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U … attainment

there is no way you can argue that the $120,000,000 for those stadiums was the best way to use that money. I know the local muppets wanted it which is half of the problem.
Because it's a mostly rural state. You don't need a diploma to drive a tractor or a truck. They aren't seeking the same life you are.
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Jay
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Dilbert_X wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

but is it a waste?  The first stadium seems to be doing well, and is on the way to turning a profit.

I'm not generally a fan of publicly financed stadiums, but the financing of PRIVATE stadiums should be far higher on your whine list.  It's professional sports teams that should draw your ire, not public high school stadiums.  Public financing of private stadiums has been studied extensively and the conclusion is almost always that it is a net negative for the public, but absolutely wonderful for the private beneficiaries.
A field of corn is more productive than a stadium.

A simple mown field and a whistle is all you need to learn to be a team player, not a $60m stadium.
It's a publicly funded amusement park that the local taxpayers are self-funding voluntarily. What exactly is there to criticize? If you don't like it, don't move there.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

but is it a waste?  The first stadium seems to be doing well, and is on the way to turning a profit.

I'm not generally a fan of publicly financed stadiums, but the financing of PRIVATE stadiums should be far higher on your whine list.  It's professional sports teams that should draw your ire, not public high school stadiums.  Public financing of private stadiums has been studied extensively and the conclusion is almost always that it is a net negative for the public, but absolutely wonderful for the private beneficiaries.
A field of corn is more productive than a stadium.

A simple mown field and a whistle is all you need to learn to be a team player, not a $60m stadium.
yeah well life would suck a whole lot if the only things we spent money on were measured based on Dilbert's scale of "productivity".  Amusement parks aren't "productive".  Shooting a gun at little targets isn't "productive".  Pounding away on the keyboard in your mom's basement isn't "productive".

Is it more than a little weird that Texas spends 10s of millions of dollars on high school football stadiums? Yeah, it's fucking mind boggling.  Should it concern you? Not more than other egregious public spending inefficiencies.
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I think a lot of resentment from school stadium expenses comes from the perception that other areas of schooling continue to suffer from lack of funding. The stereotype is a high school with a shiny new stadium with all the amenities, while history texts are twenty-five years out of date and science classes operate on shoestring budgets in the cheapest portable classrooms available.
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that leads me to believe the people with that resentment didn't read the article (which in this case is acceptable I GUESS since MacBeth pulled his usual act of not linking a source).

However, if you actually look up the information (doesn't take long on the internet these days), you can see that the top recommendations are:

Technology was at the top of the list with a suggested $35 million to be devoted to classroom and instructional technology, infrastructure, servers and similar items, and further funding of the district’s “1 to the World” program, which aims to supply laptops to every  high school student at MISD.

Also under consideration is a $39.6 million for a fine arts extension, which would include a new, expanded auditorium at McKinney High School, expansions to both Evans Middle School and Cockrill Middle School band halls, as well as the McKinney Boyd High School band hall and general district band infrastructure refreshment.
in addition to $42M in HVAC (shout out to Jay!) upgrades to various facilities, and $52.3M to elementary school upgrades.

But hey, drive by headlines and commenting is what internet participation is all about, so keep roasting boys!

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