Macbeth
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tough love boot camps are wrong



I'm glad those drill instructors found work after the military otherwise they might have ended up killing someone for drug money "because" of their PTSD.
unnamednewbie13
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Those drill instructors need to go to elocution class.
RTHKI
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do they even see combat
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unnamednewbie13
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Kid gets sent there because he smokes weed. Kid's first impulse is to smoke a blunt when he gets back to unwind. Fuck.

(Yeah, military-styled boot for kids will really clean them up because we all know the military doesn't have drug problems.)
Macbeth
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Kid gets sent there because he smokes weed. Kid's first impulse is to smoke a blunt when he gets back to unwind. Fuck.

(Yeah, military-styled boot for kids will really clean them up because we all know the military doesn't have drug problems.)
This reminds me of an episode of Intervention I once watched. A  pretty young Asian girl in her 20's was now addicted to crack. Her addiction was so bad that she and a friend would rent a hotel room in the seedy part of town and contact men on Craigslist to have sex with the Asian for money for drugs. To make her story even more heartbreaking her father sent her to a boot camp that abused her when she was a child. Her mother couldn't stop him because she abandoned the girl. But thing had a young child too.

She completed rehab treatment but later relapsed.
http://www.aetv.com/intervention/video/ … e-17145170
Her follow up video. It breaks my heart.
Cybargs
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just ambush the kids at their home with drill instructor rage

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Macbeth
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Benghazi, IRS, AP hacking. All three of these are going on right now. The surprising thing about it is that Obama's approval rating didn't change at all in the time between when these started and now. I think the right cried wolf a few too many times and many people are just bored of it. Which is interesting since I think the IRS issue is a semi-serious thing.
unnamednewbie13
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Some buddies tried to get me in on some anti-Obama furor over this. I just asked them what Republican legislation has been doing all these years.
Uzique The Lesser
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Macbeth wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Kid gets sent there because he smokes weed. Kid's first impulse is to smoke a blunt when he gets back to unwind. Fuck.

(Yeah, military-styled boot for kids will really clean them up because we all know the military doesn't have drug problems.)
This reminds me of an episode of Intervention I once watched. A  pretty young Asian girl in her 20's was now addicted to crack. Her addiction was so bad that she and a friend would rent a hotel room in the seedy part of town and contact men on Craigslist to have sex with the Asian for money for drugs. To make her story even more heartbreaking her father sent her to a boot camp that abused her when she was a child. Her mother couldn't stop him because she abandoned the girl. But thing had a young child too.

She completed rehab treatment but later relapsed.
http://www.aetv.com/intervention/video/ … e-17145170
Her follow up video. It breaks my heart.
it breaks my heart that a tv show which is that exploitative even exists, and is aired, in america... how extremely distasteful.
Uzique The Lesser
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Macbeth wrote:

Benghazi, IRS, AP hacking. All three of these are going on right now. The surprising thing about it is that Obama's approval rating didn't change at all in the time between when these started and now. I think the right cried wolf a few too many times and many people are just bored of it. Which is interesting since I think the IRS issue is a semi-serious thing.
the whole politics and 'agenda' of the IRS was explored really well in DFW's 'the pale king', actually. he did a lot of research into changes in the IRS structure and mission during the reagan era that made it to an organization with hideous political/social potential.
Dilbert_X
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So three out of four US citizens killed in drone strikes weren't even targets.

Land of the Free.
Fuck Israel
Macbeth
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Kid gets sent there because he smokes weed. Kid's first impulse is to smoke a blunt when he gets back to unwind. Fuck.

(Yeah, military-styled boot for kids will really clean them up because we all know the military doesn't have drug problems.)
This reminds me of an episode of Intervention I once watched. A  pretty young Asian girl in her 20's was now addicted to crack. Her addiction was so bad that she and a friend would rent a hotel room in the seedy part of town and contact men on Craigslist to have sex with the Asian for money for drugs. To make her story even more heartbreaking her father sent her to a boot camp that abused her when she was a child. Her mother couldn't stop him because she abandoned the girl. But thing had a young child too.

She completed rehab treatment but later relapsed.
http://www.aetv.com/intervention/video/ … e-17145170
Her follow up video. It breaks my heart.
it breaks my heart that a tv show which is that exploitative even exists, and is aired, in america... how extremely distasteful.
Oh man the one that is really bad is the first 46. I mentioned it a bunch of times here. Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to follow a murder investigation from the first phone call to the last arrest. They show bodies on that show.



it is cray
Uzique The Lesser
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like something from a dystopian infinite jest fan-fic
DesertFox-
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Macbeth wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


This reminds me of an episode of Intervention I once watched. A  pretty young Asian girl in her 20's was now addicted to crack. Her addiction was so bad that she and a friend would rent a hotel room in the seedy part of town and contact men on Craigslist to have sex with the Asian for money for drugs. To make her story even more heartbreaking her father sent her to a boot camp that abused her when she was a child. Her mother couldn't stop him because she abandoned the girl. But thing had a young child too.

She completed rehab treatment but later relapsed.
http://www.aetv.com/intervention/video/ … e-17145170
Her follow up video. It breaks my heart.
it breaks my heart that a tv show which is that exploitative even exists, and is aired, in america... how extremely distasteful.
Oh man the one that is really bad is the first 46. I mentioned it a bunch of times here. Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to follow a murder investigation from the first phone call to the last arrest. They show bodies on that show.



it is cray
Man, you gotta stop watching A&E.
Bertster7
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Wow. Nothing here about Islamist terrorists beheading a soldier on the streets of London...
Uzique The Lesser
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Bertster7 wrote:

Wow. Nothing here about Islamist terrorists beheading a soldier on the streets of London...
because we're not all knee-jerk reactionaries? it's an isolated incident. i see very little noteworthy about it to be honest. the media sure love it. the politicians sure love using it as an occasion to stress their importance. but i don't really see the "terrorism" threat here. a guy got brutally killed by 2 agitated men after a car-crash. i don't really see the shadowy conspiracy. it seems a little too spontaneous and spasmodic to really make me want to take up some political argument or some anti-islam tirade. it's a minor event, frankly. the only reason it has blown up so much is because it's a 'hate crime', and is incredibly good for TV.
DesertFox-
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It did strike me as strange that news outlets were calling it a "terrorist attack" when there was one guy killed by a couple others with a vague agenda at best. Hardly seemed like something that would have required Cameron to return to the UK for.
Uzique The Lesser
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it's because they said they "had enough" and enjoyed showboating to bystanders and the early reporters on the scene about politics, the wars in iraq/afghan, innocent people being killed, quoting the quran, etc.etc. yeah, all that seems fairly ideological, and constitutes a 'hate crime', but where's the line drawn nowadays between a 'hate crime' and a 'terrorist incident'? killing a soldier because you are virulently opposed to the wars in iraq may seem like a drastic and radical thing to do... but does it constitute terrorism? i don't think so. mouthing off to the camera with some typical anti-war sentiments, anti-Cameron sentiments (very common), and saying "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is hardly a fucking AQ terror-video recording, with a group of men sat on their knees reading out a manifesto. sounds like a bunch of angry/possibly high young men had a traffic accident, lost their shit, and let out a lot of rage and frustration about the war in iraq and muslim identity.

maybe it was even premeditated, and they planned to go out and kill a soldier. but is one person being killed by two particularly angry/loony dudes a 'terrorist attack'? i thought this needed some wider affiliation... a big program... manifestos, demands, motives, purposes... this had none of that. some pithy words about "your government don't care about you" hardly comes across to me like islamic preaching.
Uzique The Lesser
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what i think is interesting is that if two white EDL (english defense league) thugs/skinheads had gone out and stabbed a black dude, it would be a 'hate crime', typical, textbook, throw them through court. easy. but because it's two muslim people stabbing a white person, based on similarly racist/slanted ideologies, it's now 'terrorism'. there's a huge shady network at bay.

i think we can learn a lot from norway in this regard. the calmness and equanimity with which their people and their media shut-up about breivik and the island shootings. even though he was mouthing off with all this racist garbage as well, and hinting at a wider 'white power' conspiracy - all these shadowy knights templar organization fictions - at the end of the day they weren't all crying in the media about a giant terrorist attack/conspiracy. their treatment of him as an isolated individual (and his sanity/insanity) is a good example. we don't gain anything from terming this a 'terrorist' attack. unless the investigation unearths an actual serious network/cell, which is not yet clear.

"terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich" - peter ustinov.

Last edited by Uzique The Lesser (2013-05-23 12:28:09)

AussieReaper
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Bertster7 wrote:

Wow. Nothing here about Islamist terrorists beheading a soldier on the streets of London...
A 75 yr old Muslim man was killed by a white man with a machete in Birmingham 2 weeks ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/0 … ted-police


So tell me why you're only complaining about one of these insidents being covered here.
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13/f/taiwan
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bertster is usually on the other side of these arguments. i remember his back and forth with lowing and the "i don't hate muslims, just islam" crowd. he has not been on in a while so it is surprising for him to come and see people not giving the story much attention.
Macbeth
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So since the Boston bombers were not connected to any terrorist network their crimes were hate crimes? I think labeling this a terrorist attack is fair since the guy gave political reasons as to why he killed the victim. An EDL member stabbing someone because of they are a different race isn't the same as trying to force political change through violence.

I have heard this 'Why is X not terrorism' argument a bunch of times from American Muslims. While I sympathize with their situation, they have to at least admit that politically motivated attacks are just different than someone deciding to string up a nigger
Jay
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A girl in her early twenties with multi-colored hair and multiple facial piercings just knocked on my door and asked me to sign a petition banning fracking in New York State. I told her I was in favor of fracking and she gave me a sour look and walked away.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique The Lesser
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Jay wrote:

A girl in her early twenties with multi-colored hair and multiple facial piercings just knocked on my door and asked me to sign a petition banning fracking in New York State. I told her I was in favor of fracking and she gave me a sour look and walked away.
take it to the lame anecdotes thread
Macbeth
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I am in favor of fracking too. Anything that destroys rural communities is A-Okay with me.

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