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fuck that cunt
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i almost misread the bbc news-headline in my RSS feed this morning as 'thatcher dies following strike'. it was actually 'stroke'. thought that would have been amazing poetic justice.

i bet dilbert is cry-wanking into his thatcher cushion
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and fuck ronald reagan too
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

i almost misread the bbc news-headline in my RSS feed this morning as 'thatcher dies following strike'. it was actually 'stroke'. thought that would have been amazing poetic justice.

i bet dilbert is cry-wanking into his thatcher cushion
either heaps of people have made that mistake or it actually was that briefly.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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Jay
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I don't really understand the hatred directed at her. Why is she blamed for coal mines and steel mills being closed in the north? Why is she blamed for the financial system boom of the 80s that supposedly left others disenfranchised? The same things happened here in America at the exact same time. We went from top dog steel producer in the world to near naught in a decade. Now most of our steel comes from Japan and China. We had the same financial boom in the 80s as well with Wall Street bankers making money hand over fist and snorting blow out of hookers' snatches. So what? I think she's been unfairly blamed, it wasn't her fucking up the lives of UKers, it was the world changing. If there's anything I've noticed about people from the UK over the years it's the fact that they are stubborn as mules and will resist any change whatsoever while hating the forces that make them do so. They make punctual, routine based Germans look positively Bohemian by contrast.

Thatcher didn't fuck up your world, your cultural conservatism did.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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lol jay really understands. "cultural conservatism". as opposed to thatcher's cultural progressivism.

lol.
lol.
lol.

hahahaha germans less staunch than the british.

jay you should go to cornell and get a doctorate in european studies

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Cybargs
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tory thatcher saved britain from cultural conservatism. just think about that sentence for a sec.
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Jay
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Cybargs wrote:

tory thatcher saved britain from cultural conservatism. just think about that sentence for a sec.
I didn't mean conservative in a political sense, I meant it in a resistant to change sense.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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except nobody in britain was resistant to change. just resistant to a politics that eschewed consensus.
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weren't a lot of americans paranoid about obama's change that never happened?
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Roosevelt domestically saved America from communism even though he set up a leftist order for the resulting 40 years. Think about that for a second.
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Joseph Chamberlain – certainly the best prime minister Britain never had – said that the mark of political effectiveness was "the ability to change the weather". Measured by that criterion, Thatcher was one of the two greatest prime ministers of the 20th century – an eminence she shares with Clement Attlee.

Thatcher ended the consensus on economic and industrial policy that followed the second world war. The public utilities were privatised on a rejection of a mixed economy which was based on the belief that the market was the best way of ensuring efficiency and the fairest way of allocating resources. Her conviction that "the least government is the best government" never quite withstood her instinct to interfere when, as was so often the case, she thought she knew best – better than her colleagues, better than conventional wisdom and better than public opinion. But having read Hayek, she was as near to a neocon as a pathologically authoritarian politician can be. She left her footprints all over New Labour policy. The next election will decide if her "climate change" lasts as long as Clement Attlee's.
- roy hattersley.

yep, no wonder jay's dick is all textbook-hard and wet for maggie.

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Cybargs wrote:

weren't a lot of americans paranoid about obama's change that never happened?
The vast majority of people on this planet hate and resent change of any sort. Imagine the reaction when someone finds out their favorite restaurant has shut down, now extrapolate that 1000fold for things like taxes, jobs and living standards.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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jay can speak for himself. the left and progressivism has been dead in america since the 60's. not in europe. saying "the vast number of people are afraid of change" is some pop-psychology bullshit. there is a huge tradition in europe of progressivism - both reformist and revolutionary. we are not afraid of change. you can't dismiss thatcher's critics as people "afraid of change". that is idiotic in the extreme. most of thatcher's most virulent opposition were fucking marxists and the remnants of the new left. i mean, jesus. people afraid of change. this guy wants to "teach history" some day. laugh out loud.
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As much as I voice my displeasure with America and would jump on chance to live somewhere else, I love this song.

I blame television.

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was that video paid for by a focus group? looks like it was designed by committee.

also why does that dude have two first names?

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You wouldn't like his Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue song he made after 9/11.

"An' you'll be sorry that you messed with the U.S. of A.
'Cos we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way."
Uzique The Lesser
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the only people who listen to that dirge are hicks and rednecks anyway, so i can't see the harm.
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

was that video paid for by a focus group? looks like it was designed by committee.

also why does that dude have two first names?
rednecks usually have 2 first names. and most country singers are uber patriotic and love USA and wouldnt drive shitty nip cars.
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eleven bravo wrote:

and fuck ronald reagan too
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Uzique The Lesser wrote:

holy fuck she's finally dead. this is major major news in the uk.

this was my facebook cover photo a few weeks ago, pretty apt



rest in pieces you old crony
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eleven bravo wrote:

and fuck ronald reagan too
Jay
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George Will is normally very good, his take on Thatcher: http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Thatc … /id/498395
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Jay wrote:

George Will is normally very good, his take on Thatcher: http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Thatc … /id/498395
what a transparent piece of pro-free-market bilge. "As stable societies mature, they resemble long-simmering stews — viscous and lumpy with organizations resistant to change and hence inimical to dynamism. her program was sound money, laissez faire, social fluidity and upward mobility through self-reliance and other "vigorous virtues." jesus that is just cringeworthy. "inimical to dynamism". sounds like the way you'd manage a tech start-up. horrid rhetoric. sure it gets galt's dick hard though.

the fact is we are all reeling from the after-effects of reagan/thatcher's all-so-clever "the market will take care of itself" talk. it evidently has not. thatcher has departed a country that now has the misfortune of having a 'precariat' underclass, not even employed- or valued- enough to be considered 'working class' anymore.

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Nothing like watching a Dawkins college student atheist argue philosophy with a state college student republican.

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