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2013-02-05 21:07:59

#8976

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6717

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
rdx-fx wrote:
rdx-fx wrote:
In the US, the payment goes through when the bank feels like putting it through.
Anytime from same day to 5 days from now.
In the US, corporations are legally considered persons.
"We can't be infringin' on them thar corporate entities Cons-ta-too-shunal raights!..."
/sarcasm

"Corporations are People too!" - that has to be one of the top five most batshit insane legal precedents ever passed.
Legal person =/= person

it just means companies can be sued (and not just their owners) and have the right sue others (especially in cases of intellectual property laws).

but that's another whole topic
If you were half the legal/constitutional scholar you pretend to be, you'd know the consequences of considering coporations as citizens is very far reaching. The creep on the 14th amendment has been taking place for at least 20 years- and the citizens united case goes to show the creep isn't ending any time soon, in fact is getting worse. That bullshit you said about IP is just the tip of the iceberg - there are far more troubling issues (one of which is mentioned by rdx- all the positives, minimal amount of negative). In other words, cybargs you have no idea what you are talking about.

Yeah I said corporations = citizens

Ok lets not consider them as a legal person. If a company does some bad shit, who you're going to sue? the employees? the owners? shareholders? Who's going to be financially responsible? A corporation is just a representation of people. That is why a lot of companies are limited liability for it's shareholders.

What about NGOs? Legally they are corporations. You think the ACLU should not be given the same first amendment rights as every other citizen?

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2013-02-05 21:20:42

#8977

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5586

Chomsky thinks that corporations are not people but instead "super people". And considering their status they shouldn't be treated or have the same rights as people.

2013-02-06 00:48:51

#8978

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6153|what

You can't arrest a corporation.

2013-02-06 05:51:48

#8979

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6717

AussieReaper wrote:
You can't arrest a corporation.

But you can take away all their assets and throw their employees in jail.

2013-02-06 07:55:12

#8980

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6000|Vortex Ring State

Second grader suspended for imaginary grenade

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/05/co … imaginary/

2013-02-06 10:25:44

#8981

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6738|Oxferd Ohire

madness

2013-02-06 10:32:34

#8982

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,973|6632|949

Kid may be suspended for violating rules. The rules are ridiculous (no weapons, real or imaginary), but according to that article, he hasn't been suspended yet. Good sensationalism though, 10/10

2013-02-06 10:34:48

#8983

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6738|Oxferd Ohire

we werent allowed to pick up or kick pebbles

2013-02-06 11:12:25

#8984

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6223|Escea

Look out! He's got a finger!

2013-02-06 11:15:48

#8985

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6000|Vortex Ring State

pew pew pew

also alternate source says he has been suspended

http://wqad.com/2013/02/05/school-suspe … y-grenade/

A seven-year-old who threw an invisible, imaginary grenade as he pretended to save the world has been suspended from school.

Last edited by Trotskygrad (2013-02-06 11:16:21)

2013-02-06 11:42:53

#8986

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6223|Escea

Savin' the world used to mean something in this town. Honour. Respect. What do they believe in, huh? WHAT DO THEY BELIEVE IN!

2013-02-06 14:06:30

#8987

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6000|Vortex Ring State

M.O.A.B wrote:
Savin' the world used to mean something in this town. Honour. Respect. What do they believe in, huh? WHAT DO THEY BELIEVE IN!

a safe school environment

2013-02-06 14:07:50

#8988

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5586

What happened to the American dream? It came true. You're looking at it.

2013-02-06 14:08:01

#8989

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6223|Escea

Wonder if flatulence classes as chemical warfare...

2013-02-08 06:09:09

#8990

globefish23: sophisticated slacker; +334|6324|Graz, Austria

2013-02-08 12:36:02

#8991

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6772|PNW

Why is this called "Disaster Movie?" It was from the 1997 "Bean" movie.

2013-02-09 16:49:15

#8992

globefish23: sophisticated slacker; +334|6324|Graz, Austria

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Why is this called "Disaster Movie?" It was from the 1997 "Bean" movie.

2013-02-09 16:50:39

#8993

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6772|PNW

Like I'm going to remember the text they're hiding beneath BEAN.

2013-02-10 07:56:20

#8994

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4255

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/fe … ia-defence

A multinational security firm has secretly developed software capable of tracking people's movements and predicting future behaviour by mining data from social networking websites.

A video obtained by the Guardian reveals how an "extreme-scale analytics" system created by Raytheon, the world's fifth largest defence contractor, can gather vast amounts of information about people from websites including Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare.

video
terrifying and awesome.

2013-02-10 08:07:37

#8995

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5179|Sydney

Hardly surprised but found it interesting to see software like that in action. That being said I think it will make me reconsider how I use social media and my iPhone in future. Only a matter of time before it gets leaked.

Last edited by Jaekus (2013-02-10 08:11:55)

2013-02-10 08:25:13

#8996

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5358|London, England

And that, friends, is why you don't 'check in' anywhere.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-02-10 08:42:43

#8997

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4255

Jay wrote:
And that, friends, is why you don't 'check in' anywhere.

your ip information or mobile phone signal discloses where you are, geographically, anyway. not as if everyone is openly using facebook's 'check in' feature. just by having your phone on, you can be triangulated.

2013-02-10 08:45:21

#8998

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5358|London, England

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
Jay wrote:
And that, friends, is why you don't 'check in' anywhere.
your ip information or mobile phone signal discloses where you are, geographically, anyway. not as if everyone is openly using facebook's 'check in' feature. just by having your phone on, you can be triangulated.

I know. Well, not triangulated, but if you're using a mobile phone they can tell where you are based on which tower you are connected to at that point. You would have to have connections to multiple towers at the same time to be triangulated. I know the NYPD has software that allows them to do that.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-02-10 08:47:57

#8999

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5358|London, England

But in all seriousness, what is the point of software like Raytheons? Anybody that is seriously contemplating committing a crime is going to use a burner phone or a fake social media account. Seems less than useful in completing its stated goal, but incredibly useful if the goal is to track every citizen everywhere...

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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2013-02-10 08:50:39

#9000

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4255

for a libertarian you are surprisingly lax about software that can indiscriminately track anyone.

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