Could've sworn I said that...-Whiteroom- wrote:
Could have something to do with everything here being temporary, our buildings for example, we don't seem to build things to last... European things seem more permanent, something that can always be related back to.aynrandroolz wrote:
relax little persecuted cossack-slayer, i was commenting on american's focus on their history, not your individual comment, specifically. although the fact you even know a village got burned down, 5,000 miles away, is pretty funny. europeans are generally surrounded with their culture and heritage everyday, whereas americans view it through a looking glass.Superior Mind wrote:
I describe one eighth of my family history. (He emigrated because of the Cossaks, not the Nazi btw)
You faggits think I'm trying to segregate myself, for telling a Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me?
I'll say again, D&ST is a fucking joke.
It's all long winded trolling.
"antigay bills"?RTHKI wrote:
cool stuff like antigay billsShahter wrote:
dude, according to jay it's very interesting to know that kinda stuff, even when you've no real connection with any of it - just so you can compare yours with other people, like baseball card collections or magnets on the fridges. you know, kewl stuffz.M.O.A.B wrote:
I've no idea where my family came from. Nobody in my family seems to know either so I'll just say we fell out of the sky Bean style.
that's a few thousand years away though.Superior Mind wrote:
People have been building on top of each other in Europe for the past few thousand years. I'm sure in another 3k years America will feel the same way.
innit-Whiteroom- wrote:
that's a few thousand years away though.Superior Mind wrote:
People have been building on top of each other in Europe for the past few thousand years. I'm sure in another 3k years America will feel the same way.
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Yes our perception of our culture and history is deeply influenced by local zoning laws and city planningJay wrote:
Could've sworn I said that...-Whiteroom- wrote:
Could have something to do with everything here being temporary, our buildings for example, we don't seem to build things to last... European things seem more permanent, something that can always be related back to.aynrandroolz wrote:
relax little persecuted cossack-slayer, i was commenting on american's focus on their history, not your individual comment, specifically. although the fact you even know a village got burned down, 5,000 miles away, is pretty funny. europeans are generally surrounded with their culture and heritage everyday, whereas americans view it through a looking glass.
No, it has more to do with the fact that people are highly transient in our culture. People who stay in the same town all their life are derogatorily referred to as 'townies'. Go into any neighborhood in NYC or LA and the most of the people aren't from there, they're from somewhere else. Half the white people in Brooklyn seem to have been born in the Midwest. When we moved from a largely rural lifestyle to a predominantly urban lifestyle we lost... I dunno, grounding I guess would be the word. Why set down permanent roots and build stuff to last when our kids will just move away and abandon what we've built? People complain about our consumer driven lifestyle and the cheapness of everything built today, and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that we don't expect anything to be permanent or passed down, for better or worse.Macbeth wrote:
Yes our perception of our culture and history is deeply influenced by local zoning laws and city planningJay wrote:
Could've sworn I said that...-Whiteroom- wrote:
Could have something to do with everything here being temporary, our buildings for example, we don't seem to build things to last... European things seem more permanent, something that can always be related back to.
Nah, I feel like I would be missing out on too much stuffAussieReaper wrote:
Jay admit it, you want to be a redneck.
Once again, are you under the impression that there are no urban areas in Europe?Jay wrote:
No, it has more to do with the fact that people are highly transient in our culture. People who stay in the same town all their life are derogatorily referred to as 'townies'. Go into any neighborhood in NYC or LA and the most of the people aren't from there, they're from somewhere else. Half the white people in Brooklyn seem to have been born in the Midwest. When we moved from a largely rural lifestyle to a predominantly urban lifestyle we lost... I dunno, grounding I guess would be the word. Why set down permanent roots and build stuff to last when our kids will just move away and abandon what we've built? People complain about our consumer driven lifestyle and the cheapness of everything built today, and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that we don't expect anything to be permanent or passed down, for better or worse.Macbeth wrote:
Yes our perception of our culture and history is deeply influenced by local zoning laws and city planningJay wrote:
Could've sworn I said that...
No, not at all, but movement to cities wasn't the order of the day pre-industrial revolution. Europe was largely rural until recent times, same as our own countries.-Whiteroom- wrote:
Once again, are you under the impression that there are no urban areas in Europe?Jay wrote:
No, it has more to do with the fact that people are highly transient in our culture. People who stay in the same town all their life are derogatorily referred to as 'townies'. Go into any neighborhood in NYC or LA and the most of the people aren't from there, they're from somewhere else. Half the white people in Brooklyn seem to have been born in the Midwest. When we moved from a largely rural lifestyle to a predominantly urban lifestyle we lost... I dunno, grounding I guess would be the word. Why set down permanent roots and build stuff to last when our kids will just move away and abandon what we've built? People complain about our consumer driven lifestyle and the cheapness of everything built today, and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that we don't expect anything to be permanent or passed down, for better or worse.Macbeth wrote:
Yes our perception of our culture and history is deeply influenced by local zoning laws and city planning
Yeah, it's not like I'm saying to my Swedish friends on facebook "yo homey, you remember that time Karl Gustav fucked up ze Germans? That shit was rad!" It's just cool that I can trace my roots back to a physical place on a map somewhere.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I think the point trying to be made is- america is a new country, and we (you bloody euros) wiped out all the indigenous people, so we don't have much history. We look back to the continent or asia or wherever to make up for our own lack of history. It has nothing to do with zoning or temporary housing in my opinion. Its stupid for anyone to identify as 'swedish' as if they are a part of a pure swedish bloodline - but they aren't saying that - they are saying they are swedish to explain surnames, physical traits, cultural traditions. Sure, stupid jersey shore guidos pretend like they came off the ship from sicily at age 16, but those are stupid fucks that don't represent the average citizen.
no one is saying that. my family has a coat of arms - it's wood-carved and hangs in the hallway. lovely decoration, that.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Yeah and its not like euros celebrate coat of arms for their family or anything like that. Nostalgia, clan pride and geneology are an american invention!
Yeah we meet up and discuss it. Haha I have my italian-american weekly gathering tonight. On the menu- meatballs pomodoro from the motherland! Andiamo! Mangi!aynrandroolz wrote:
no one is saying that. my family has a coat of arms - it's wood-carved and hangs in the hallway. lovely decoration, that.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Yeah and its not like euros celebrate coat of arms for their family or anything like that. Nostalgia, clan pride and geneology are an american invention!
but we don't meet up and discuss with other americans, or mention on internet forums, "yo bro what's your background?" you fetishize a history that is 3,000 miles away from you. we are at least in contact with ours - immersed, even.
Don't forget to get your swoll on before attending. Gym, tan, laundry!KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Yeah we meet up and discuss it. Haha I have my italian-american weekly gathering tonight. On the menu- meatballs pomodoro from the motherland! Andiamo! Mangi!aynrandroolz wrote:
no one is saying that. my family has a coat of arms - it's wood-carved and hangs in the hallway. lovely decoration, that.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Yeah and its not like euros celebrate coat of arms for their family or anything like that. Nostalgia, clan pride and geneology are an american invention!
but we don't meet up and discuss with other americans, or mention on internet forums, "yo bro what's your background?" you fetishize a history that is 3,000 miles away from you. we are at least in contact with ours - immersed, even.
