must also be land owners tooTy wrote:
Now if only educated financially secure white men were able to vote democracy would truly thrive.
Hence the "financially secure" bit.Cybargs wrote:
must also be land owners tooTy wrote:
Now if only educated financially secure white men were able to vote democracy would truly thrive.
you can not own land and be financially secureDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Hence the "financially secure" bit.Cybargs wrote:
must also be land owners tooTy wrote:
Now if only educated financially secure white men were able to vote democracy would truly thrive.
How about "Adult, sane, no criminal record above misdemeanors and/or traffic tickets, no bankruptcy or defaulted debt over $10,000" as voting requirements.
And, at least as important, you may not hold public office unless you meet the above voting criteria
Democracy might be a bit healthier if the only people able to vote were those with self-discipline, sane life planning abilities, and financial responsibility.
Democracy doesn't work when the irresponsible just vote themselves more entitlement benefits from the public coffers,
or when the greedy hyperwealthy have their pocket congressman vote themselves another billion dollar porkbarrel project.
And, at least as important, you may not hold public office unless you meet the above voting criteria
Democracy might be a bit healthier if the only people able to vote were those with self-discipline, sane life planning abilities, and financial responsibility.
Democracy doesn't work when the irresponsible just vote themselves more entitlement benefits from the public coffers,
or when the greedy hyperwealthy have their pocket congressman vote themselves another billion dollar porkbarrel project.
So that would be rich white people only, and they're pretty good at voting themselves entitlements.
Still, thats the way the founding fathers wanted it.
Still, thats the way the founding fathers wanted it.
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
Democracy!
Hispanics, NPAs more likely to face noncitizen voter purge than whites, GOP
The state’s quest to get rid of noncitizens voters this election year has turned up 180,000 hits — but it incidentally targets minorities and Democrats while giving white Republicans a pass.
By Marc Caputo and Patricia Mazzei [email protected]
Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida’s voting rolls, a Miami Herald computer analysis of elections records has found.
Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal, the analysis of a list of more than 2,600 potential noncitizens shows. The list was first compiled by the state and furnished to county election supervisors and then The Herald.
The numbers change by the day. The state’s Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn’t have the most-updated information.
About 58% of those identified as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, the analysis of the list obtained by The Herald shows. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/12/2 … rylink=cpy
Hispanics, NPAs more likely to face noncitizen voter purge than whites, GOP
The state’s quest to get rid of noncitizens voters this election year has turned up 180,000 hits — but it incidentally targets minorities and Democrats while giving white Republicans a pass.
By Marc Caputo and Patricia Mazzei [email protected]
Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida’s voting rolls, a Miami Herald computer analysis of elections records has found.
Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal, the analysis of a list of more than 2,600 potential noncitizens shows. The list was first compiled by the state and furnished to county election supervisors and then The Herald.
The numbers change by the day. The state’s Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn’t have the most-updated information.
About 58% of those identified as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, the analysis of the list obtained by The Herald shows. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/12/2 … rylink=cpy
if theyre noncitizens they dont have a right to vote, and there's a lot of non-citizen hispanics. If they can prove their citizenship when voting there wouldn't be a problem innit.AussieReaper wrote:
Democracy!
Hispanics, NPAs more likely to face noncitizen voter purge than whites, GOP
The state’s quest to get rid of noncitizens voters this election year has turned up 180,000 hits — but it incidentally targets minorities and Democrats while giving white Republicans a pass.
By Marc Caputo and Patricia Mazzei [email protected]
Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida’s voting rolls, a Miami Herald computer analysis of elections records has found.
Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal, the analysis of a list of more than 2,600 potential noncitizens shows. The list was first compiled by the state and furnished to county election supervisors and then The Herald.
The numbers change by the day. The state’s Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn’t have the most-updated information.
About 58% of those identified as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, the analysis of the list obtained by The Herald shows. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/12/2 … rylink=cpy
Shame they're trying to get so many legal and registered voters to jump through these hoops.Cybargs wrote:
if theyre noncitizens they dont have a right to vote, and there's a lot of non-citizen hispanics. If they can prove their citizenship when voting there wouldn't be a problem innit.
Like, a 91 year old WWII vet Bronze Star recipient, for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/29/2 … y-gov.html
A Miami Herald analysis of the list found it was dominated by Democrats, independents and Hispanics. The largest number were from Miami-Dade, home to the state’s highest foreign-born population.
If they're citizens who are legal, adding this burden does nothing but disenfranchise voters and cause a low turnout. Who do you think that benefits when it's mostly Dems, independants and Hispanics who are targetted?
The system works.AussieReaper wrote:
Democracy!
Hispanics, NPAs more likely to face noncitizen voter purge than whites, GOP
The state’s quest to get rid of noncitizens voters this election year has turned up 180,000 hits — but it incidentally targets minorities and Democrats while giving white Republicans a pass.
By Marc Caputo and Patricia Mazzei [email protected]
Hispanic, Democratic and independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted in a state hunt to remove thousands of noncitizens from Florida’s voting rolls, a Miami Herald computer analysis of elections records has found.
Whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal, the analysis of a list of more than 2,600 potential noncitizens shows. The list was first compiled by the state and furnished to county election supervisors and then The Herald.
The numbers change by the day. The state’s Division of Elections says it initially identified roughly 180,000 potential noncitizens by performing a search of a computer database that doesn’t have the most-updated information.
About 58% of those identified as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, the analysis of the list obtained by The Herald shows. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/12/2 … rylink=cpy
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
they should just do it like aussie and give out your passport/citizenship number when you enroll in the election. solves all problems.AussieReaper wrote:
Shame they're trying to get so many legal and registered voters to jump through these hoops.Cybargs wrote:
if theyre noncitizens they dont have a right to vote, and there's a lot of non-citizen hispanics. If they can prove their citizenship when voting there wouldn't be a problem innit.
Like, a 91 year old WWII vet Bronze Star recipient, for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/29/2 … y-gov.html
A Miami Herald analysis of the list found it was dominated by Democrats, independents and Hispanics. The largest number were from Miami-Dade, home to the state’s highest foreign-born population.
If they're citizens who are legal, adding this burden does nothing but disenfranchise voters and cause a low turnout. Who do you think that benefits when it's mostly Dems, independants and Hispanics who are targetted?
You already have to give your state I.D. number. Our system has protections in place to prevent anyone from signing up.Cybargs wrote:
they should just do it like aussie and give out your passport/citizenship number when you enroll in the election. solves all problems.AussieReaper wrote:
Shame they're trying to get so many legal and registered voters to jump through these hoops.Cybargs wrote:
if theyre noncitizens they dont have a right to vote, and there's a lot of non-citizen hispanics. If they can prove their citizenship when voting there wouldn't be a problem innit.
Like, a 91 year old WWII vet Bronze Star recipient, for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/29/2 … y-gov.html
A Miami Herald analysis of the list found it was dominated by Democrats, independents and Hispanics. The largest number were from Miami-Dade, home to the state’s highest foreign-born population.
If they're citizens who are legal, adding this burden does nothing but disenfranchise voters and cause a low turnout. Who do you think that benefits when it's mostly Dems, independants and Hispanics who are targetted?
You really can't be this stupid.
Having state ID doesn't necessarily mean you have citizenship.Macbeth wrote:
You already have to give your state I.D. number. Our system has protections in place to prevent anyone from signing up.Cybargs wrote:
they should just do it like aussie and give out your passport/citizenship number when you enroll in the election. solves all problems.AussieReaper wrote:
Shame they're trying to get so many legal and registered voters to jump through these hoops.
Like, a 91 year old WWII vet Bronze Star recipient, for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/29/2 … y-gov.html
A Miami Herald analysis of the list found it was dominated by Democrats, independents and Hispanics. The largest number were from Miami-Dade, home to the state’s highest foreign-born population.
If they're citizens who are legal, adding this burden does nothing but disenfranchise voters and cause a low turnout. Who do you think that benefits when it's mostly Dems, independants and Hispanics who are targetted?
You really can't be this stupid.
*Cough* Not yet in Wisconsin *cough*.Macbeth wrote:
You already have to give your state I.D. number. Our system has protections in place to prevent anyone from signing up.Cybargs wrote:
they should just do it like aussie and give out your passport/citizenship number when you enroll in the election. solves all problems.AussieReaper wrote:
Shame they're trying to get so many legal and registered voters to jump through these hoops.
Like, a 91 year old WWII vet Bronze Star recipient, for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/29/2 … y-gov.html
A Miami Herald analysis of the list found it was dominated by Democrats, independents and Hispanics. The largest number were from Miami-Dade, home to the state’s highest foreign-born population.
If they're citizens who are legal, adding this burden does nothing but disenfranchise voters and cause a low turnout. Who do you think that benefits when it's mostly Dems, independants and Hispanics who are targetted?
You really can't be this stupid.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
This kind of voter fraud happens so rarely that there's no way that these measures won't block more legitimate voters than illegitimate ones.
Rarely? Really?Doctor Strangelove wrote:
This kind of voter fraud happens so rarely that there's no way that these measures won't block more legitimate voters than illegitimate ones.
Last edited by War Man (2012-06-05 13:35:57)
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
there was big concern of voter fraud in ohio for the 08 election and it turned out to be pretty miniscule
Ohio, miniscule based on numbers, yes. Now, if it were California, Florida, or Arizona, for example.
so i went to google to search what i remember reading and the first thing i see is voter fraud won ohio and penn in 2008 >.<
Did you vote today warman?
the unions cannot be stopped now
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Walker just won the recall. LOL
Enjoy Wisconsin. And good luck.
Enjoy Wisconsin. And good luck.
My Dad's in America on business and just had to get emergency surgery on an ankle joint which became infected. Cost him $6000. Had the problem happened here in NZ it wouldn't have cost anything. He is lucky to be in a position to be able to pay immediately and have the company he works for reimburse him but holy Hell.
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