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2012-02-20 21:27:16

#5176

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5810|London, England

Spark wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
lol, every time a discussion on smoking bans pops up on a forum, someone inevitably says "well what's next, maybe we should ban perfume since it makes some people nauseous!" as an argument against smoking bans.

well well well.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/dailydose/ … index.html

told ya so! next up? maybe a ban on fireplaces or charcoal grilling!
fuck i hate slippery slope arguments. laziest bullshit imaginable.

They're more often right than wrong.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-02-20 22:28:08

#5177

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7127|Canberra, AUS

Jay wrote:
Spark wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
lol, every time a discussion on smoking bans pops up on a forum, someone inevitably says "well what's next, maybe we should ban perfume since it makes some people nauseous!" as an argument against smoking bans.

well well well.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/dailydose/ … index.html

told ya so! next up? maybe a ban on fireplaces or charcoal grilling!
fuck i hate slippery slope arguments. laziest bullshit imaginable.
They're more often right than wrong.

There is almost no correlation, because there is rarely any actual logical connection. As I've said many, many times here, right for the wrong reasons doesn't impress me.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2012-02-20 23:23:32

#5178

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|7142|Tampa Bay Florida

http://evilempirebook.com/

2012-02-21 01:44:11

#5179

globefish23: sophisticated slacker; +334|6776|Graz, Austria

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
a ban on fireplaces or charcoal grilling!

Here in my city, in inner-city areas and in pretty much all appartment buildings charcoal grilling is forbidden.
Also, fireworks at New Years Eve are banned, although no one seems to care and it's barely enforced.

Also, there are speed limits on the highways and secondary heating with coal fireplaces or oil ovens is forbidden if the fine dust levels are too high.
The annually upper limit of fine dust is generally exceeded in January or February each year.

2012-02-21 04:15:57

#5180

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,746|7189|Cinncinatti

ban smokers

2012-02-21 05:30:33

#5181

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6154|College Park, MD

Spark wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
lol, every time a discussion on smoking bans pops up on a forum, someone inevitably says "well what's next, maybe we should ban perfume since it makes some people nauseous!" as an argument against smoking bans.

well well well.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/dailydose/ … index.html

told ya so! next up? maybe a ban on fireplaces or charcoal grilling!
fuck i hate slippery slope arguments. laziest bullshit imaginable.

umad

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2012-02-21 06:37:00

#5182

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6038

Those little perfume bottle things that girls liked to spray back in high school would set off my allergies like you wouldn't believe. Hated those fucking things. A single spray of one would fill an entire room. I would very much enjoy a fragrance free environment.

Before anyone goes on about freedom and all that crap- your 'freedom to wear perfume' is encroaching on my 'freedom to go about my day without having a runny nose'..

2012-02-21 10:57:17

#5183

13rin: Member; +977|6931

my wifee's building has a no perfume/candle/oils/glade plug in policy.

Place smells like doo doo.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2012-02-21 11:08:18

#5184

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6154|College Park, MD

maybe perfumes have changed in composition since the good old days, but I feel like this whole "violent reaction to perfumes" thing is a recent phenomenon.

2012-02-21 18:39:49

#5185

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6863|'Murka

The whole "fragrance free" workplace is kind of an old story, tbh. I can remember when they instituted it in some government offices in the DC area at least 5 years ago.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-02-23 15:36:59

#5186

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6154|College Park, MD

Good job, Maryland:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mar … _blog.html

2012-02-24 15:49:06

#5187

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,074|7224|PNW

Ann Romney ‘drives a couple Cadillacs,’ Mitt Romney says
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ann- … 56441.html

The remark, which probably doesn't help Romney downplay the fact he's one of the wealthiest Americans ever to seek the presidency, instantly became the talk of political Twitter.

I get why people are irritated at his talking up his expensive stuff during an economic shitstorm, but really. People would refuse to vote someone in for presidency because they're successful?

2012-02-24 18:10:20

#5188

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6605|what

Successful?

How much tax does he pay? How many off shore bank accounts does he have? How many businesses did he allow to collapse while at Bain?

The resentment isn't that he has done well. It's that he has done well off the backs of others.

2012-02-24 18:33:30

#5189

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,824|6558|eXtreme to the maX

More than that, he's done well at the expense of others wealth, jobs etc.

Fuck Israel

2012-02-25 10:53:15

#5190

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6863|'Murka

AussieReaper wrote:
Successful?

How much tax does he pay? How many off shore bank accounts does he have? How many businesses did he allow to collapse while at Bain?

The resentment isn't that he has done well. It's that he has done well off the backs of others.

Such a ludicrous, pedantic argument.

He pays millions in taxes and charitable contributions--far more than any other person running for President. To include Obama. His tax rate is lower because it's investment income, predominantly. So he pays the same amount, percentage-wise, as everyone else who gets income from the same source.

Where his accounts are located is irrelevant, so long as he follows the law--which he does.

How many jobs were created by Bain while he was there? Is it his fault that companies they invested in failed? Do you even know what investment--as opposed to running said companies--actually means? Clearly not.

The only people who find those things upsetting are those who don't care for him anyway, regardless of how successful he's been. And those same people will ignore the actual facts and play to the sound bites in order to foment some kind of "us vs them" class nonsense.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-02-25 14:30:15

#5191

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6038

There are plenty of disturbing things about anti-African American rant by two teen girls from Gainsville, Florida that went viral on YouTube last week. The post received millions of views, thousands of comments, and the girls have been bombarded with death threats and hate mail. They even were expelled from their high school over the video.

These girls make some good points.

Yes, good children. Let the hate flow through you.

2012-02-25 14:41:02

#5192

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|6151

Macbeth wrote:
These girls make some good points.

They're not going to fuck you because you complimented them.

2012-02-25 15:02:41

#5193

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6038

Dang, I thought I would be popular with 13 year olds. I have a car and can buy liquor after all.

2012-02-25 22:01:27

#5194

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6605|what

FEOS wrote:
Where his accounts are located is irrelevant, so long as he follows the law--which he does.

Where his accounts are does matter. They are off shore so he doesn't pay taxes on them. I'd have thought even you would understand that concept.

damn Liberal college professors.

2012-02-25 23:35:38

#5195

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7168

Spearhead wrote:
http://evilempirebook.com/

I disagree with the royals part... especially on the part of cost

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2012-02-25 23:39:18

#5196

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,074|7224|PNW

AussieReaper wrote:
Successful?

How much tax does he pay? How many off shore bank accounts does he have? How many businesses did he allow to collapse while at Bain?

The resentment isn't that he has done well. It's that he has done well off the backs of others.

Then that would be a better focus for his opposition, rather than the "oh, he's just a wealthy man. Can't have him in charge of a wealthy nation."

2012-02-25 23:51:34

#5197

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7168

AussieReaper wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Where his accounts are located is irrelevant, so long as he follows the law--which he does.
Where his accounts are does matter. They are off shore so he doesn't pay taxes on them. I'd have thought even you would understand that concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkjbJOSwq3A

damn Liberal college professors.

He does have a point about sending everyone to uni though. but he's just fucking retarded with the lib college professor comment. Australia does it pretty well imo where we have TAFE and Uni, allowing people to take up vocational training. Shit not every kid wants to be in high school let alone uni.

2012-02-26 19:22:04

#5198

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6863|'Murka

AussieReaper wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Where his accounts are located is irrelevant, so long as he follows the law--which he does.
Where his accounts are does matter. They are off shore so he doesn't pay taxes on them. I'd have thought even you would understand that concept.

damn Liberal college professors.

He actually does pay taxes on earnings from those accounts.

"If you file the forms and report the income, you are 100 percent legal," said Kevin Packman, a Miami lawyer who chairs the offshore tax compliance team at the law firm of Holland & Knight.
.................................
A Romney spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, said the Cayman funds "are taxed in the very same way they would be if those funds were established in the United States." She noted that because many of the funds are in a trust directed by a Boston lawyer, the Romneys played no role in deciding how the money was invested.

Saul said the decision to set up the funds in the Caymans was made by the funds' sponsors — in this case, senior partners at Bain Capital, not Romney. A Bain spokesman declined to comment on the funds' origins.

Tax experts and lawyers said using offshore funds to attract foreign investors is a legitimate and standard business practice. Increased foreign investment in a U.S. fund based abroad could increase financial returns for American investors. Offshore funds offer advantages for U.S. investors looking to diversify their portfolios and for foreign investors seeking to avoid U.S. reporting and tax-withholding requirements.
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Under American law, U.S. investors must pay taxes on profits made from offshore investment funds. However, U.S. investors may be able to defer those taxes until later as they bring the profits into the U.S., depending on how the fund is structured, said Kevin Packman, chairman of his firm's offshore compliance team at Holland & Knight of Miami.

Old--and debunked--news. You do know what "defer until later" means, don't you? It means the taxes can be paid later, but still must be paid. Sort of contradicts your "he doesn't pay taxes on them" analysis, doesn't it?

I'd have thought even you would understand that concept.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-02-26 19:49:03

#5199

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6038

If it wasn't for the income they bring in, I can't find any arguments in favor of having a royal family and some hereditary nobility. I know they have no real government power but the whole thing just looks backwards. It also looks really subservient.

2012-02-26 19:56:39

#5200

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,074|7224|PNW

If it really looked backwards and stupid, I bet gossip magazines wouldn't care about their personal lives and nobody would tour on the basis of seeing all their shit.

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