Cheeky_Ninja06
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I would hope that the US are pretty damn sure its the Iranians who have done it, dont think they really need the egg on their face of it being proved wrong.
Dilbert_X
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Its hard to see the face for the egg already.
Fuck Israel
13urnzz
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Polygamist Leader Warren Jeffs' Wife Escapes Polygamist Community

http://news.yahoo.com/warren-jeffs-wife … 32555.html

The other 83 wives couldn't be reached for comment.
Ty
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Harold Camping is back. World's going to end this Friday.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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CC-Marley
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sweet. I won't have to work. It's Friday!
Spark
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"surely this is a joke" says the url

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n … 6167552466

WHAT

THE

FUCK

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Cybargs
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lol victoria
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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You're a twat Michael O'Brien.
Fuck Israel
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6928|Canberra, AUS
gaddafi possibly captured + wounded
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Macbeth
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A record-high 50% of Americans now say the use of marijuana should be made legal, up from 46% last year. Forty-six percent say marijuana use should remain illegal.
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When Gallup first asked about legalizing marijuana, in 1969, 12% of Americans favored it, while 84% were opposed. Support remained in the mid-20s in Gallup measures from the late 1970s to the mid-1990s, but has crept up since, passing 30% in 2000 and 40% in 2009 before reaching the 50% level in this year's Oct. 6-9 annual Crime survey.
https://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/dq8bjss84e2ub3uwvjgeaa.gif
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Recor … juana.aspx
unnamednewbie13
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May have been mentioned somewhere:

AP wrote:

285 Indian girls shed 'unwanted' names

MUMBAI, India (AP) — More than 200 Indian girls whose names mean "unwanted" in Hindi chose new names Saturday for a fresh start in life.

[...]
Shocking
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I've been reading up more concerning the situation with Iran lately and I'm left wondering if it is at all possible to avoid conflict with this nation. At least 80% of its population gets its information from state-run media outlets and what's not state-run is still subject to government regulation. These have made it their mission to paint the west as some sort of arab/muslim-hating monster that is out to kill everyone and their media describes 'western-media' as some sort of homogeneous state-run entity that distorts the facts and feeds us propaganda.

Incredibly ironic but nevertheless extremely effective, it's not unlike the propaganda machines that were around during WW2. Victimize yourself, accuse your opponent of all sorts of stuff whilst simultaneously controlling any and all media in the country. People won't be able to fact-check anything you don't want them to and are subject to a constant stream of one-sided blather, result: you can brainwash masses easily.

This whole "Iran/arabs against the west" stance that's being perpetuated by them is probably beneficial for internal stability & cohesion but at the same time very harmful for us and any dealings we might have with them. Generations are growing up being fed complete assgravy.
inane little opines
FEOS
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Shocking wrote:

I've been reading up more concerning the situation with Iran lately and I'm left wondering if it is at all possible to avoid conflict with this nation. At least 80% of its population gets its information from state-run media outlets and what's not state-run is still subject to government regulation. These have made it their mission to paint the west as some sort of arab/muslim-hating monster that is out to kill everyone and their media describes 'western-media' as some sort of homogeneous state-run entity that distorts the facts and feeds us propaganda.

Incredibly ironic but nevertheless extremely effective, it's not unlike the propaganda machines that were around during WW2. Victimize yourself, accuse your opponent of all sorts of stuff whilst simultaneously controlling any and all media in the country. People won't be able to fact-check anything you don't want them to and are subject to a constant stream of one-sided blather, result: you can brainwash masses easily.

This whole "Iran/arabs against the west" stance that's being perpetuated by them is probably beneficial for internal stability & cohesion but at the same time very harmful for us and any dealings we might have with them. Generations are growing up being fed complete assgravy.
It's not just Iran that's in that situation, tbh.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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Shocking
sorry you feel that way
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I know, that's the worst part.
inane little opines
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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Shocking wrote:

I've been reading up more concerning the situation with Iran lately and I'm left wondering if it is at all possible to avoid conflict with this nation. At least 80% of its population gets its information from state-run media outlets and what's not state-run is still subject to government regulation. These have made it their mission to paint the west as some sort of arab/muslim-hating monster that is out to kill everyone and their media describes 'western-media' as some sort of homogeneous state-run entity that distorts the facts and feeds us propaganda.

Incredibly ironic but nevertheless extremely effective, it's not unlike the propaganda machines that were around during WW2. Victimize yourself, accuse your opponent of all sorts of stuff whilst simultaneously controlling any and all media in the country. People won't be able to fact-check anything you don't want them to and are subject to a constant stream of one-sided blather, result: you can brainwash masses easily.

This whole "Iran/arabs against the west" stance that's being perpetuated by them is probably beneficial for internal stability & cohesion but at the same time very harmful for us and any dealings we might have with them. Generations are growing up being fed complete assgravy.
The government is using propaghanda to keep its people in thrall. Unless they start attacking outside of their borders, who cares?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6253|...
Future leaders are influenced by propaganda as well. On the long term it motivates an evermore defiant stance towards us, which may end up being very detrimental to progress / interests we have in the region and them holding on to their nuclear aspirations. It's overall harmful, we haven't abandoned state run media for no reason. It might even help to support terrorist activity.
inane little opines
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Shocking wrote:

Future leaders are influenced by propaganda as well. On the long term it motivates an evermore defiant stance towards us, which may end up being very detrimental to progress / interests we have in the region and them holding on to their nuclear aspirations. It's overall harmful, we haven't abandoned state run media for no reason. It might even help to support terrorist activity.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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~ Richard Feynman
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I wonder what AJ in Arabic and Farsi is like. The balancing act that network must be preforming in their middle east coverage must be something.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Somewhere along the line al-Jazeera has actually turned themselves into quite a notable news outfit in its own right and not just a conduit for terrorist tapes.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Macbeth
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What if it was always a notable news outfit and we only recognized it at first because of the terrorist tapes? What if we're the ones in the bubble?
Spark
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Also a possibility, but until al-J English set up, it's not like we could tell.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
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I can't remember in which thread I predicted it but here it is:
Two US senators have proposed a plan to offer visas for foreigners buying homes worth $500,000 or more.

Democrat Chuck Schumer and Republican Mike Lee, sponsoring a bill, say it is a move to increase housing demand.

The proposal is similar to an existing Green Card program for foreigners who invest at least $500,000 in an American business that creates at least 10 jobs.

The US Chamber of Commerce has announced its support for the new legislation proposal.

"Our housing market will never begin a true recovery as long as our housing stock so greatly exceeds demand. This is not a cure-all, but it could be part of the solution," said Mr Schumer, a Democrat from New York.

Mr Lee, a Republican from Utah, described the bill as a "free market method for increasing demand for housing".

The proposal would provide a three-year residential visa for foreign owners.

Prospective buyers would need to spend at least $250,000 on one property that would serve as their primary residence, and could make up the $500,000 requirement with additional rental properties.

To qualify for the visa, however, the purchases must be in cash, and the owners would have to reside at the primary residences for 180 days out of the year.

They would also have to apply for a separate work visa in order to be employed in the US, and would not be eligible for government aid programs.

"The bill does not limit people from being productive," Mr Schumer said. "It simply prevents them from coming here and taking jobs that otherwise would go to Americans."

The idea has also been supported by billionaire investor Warren Buffett.

"If you wanted to change your immigration policy so that you let 500,000 families in but they have to have a significant net worth and everything, you'd solve things very quickly," Mr Buffett told PBS's Charlie Rose in August.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15406776
I guess the 'free-market' needs a bit of govt help now and then

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-10-24 00:24:55)

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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Shocking wrote:

Future leaders are influenced by propaganda as well. On the long term it motivates an evermore defiant stance towards us, which may end up being very detrimental to progress / interests we have in the region and them holding on to their nuclear aspirations. It's overall harmful, we haven't abandoned state run media for no reason. It might even help to support terrorist activity.
There's a lot more going on in Iran than just the state-run media. The infighting between the various factions and arms of government, especially between the Supreme Leader and President (and to a lesser extent the President and Parliament/Congress and its various arms) keep Iran fairly contained and dysfunctional. Makes the US look like a well-oiled machine, tbh.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5612|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

I can't remember in which thread I predicted it but here it is:
Two US senators have proposed a plan to offer visas for foreigners buying homes worth $500,000 or more.

Democrat Chuck Schumer and Republican Mike Lee, sponsoring a bill, say it is a move to increase housing demand.

The proposal is similar to an existing Green Card program for foreigners who invest at least $500,000 in an American business that creates at least 10 jobs.

The US Chamber of Commerce has announced its support for the new legislation proposal.

"Our housing market will never begin a true recovery as long as our housing stock so greatly exceeds demand. This is not a cure-all, but it could be part of the solution," said Mr Schumer, a Democrat from New York.

Mr Lee, a Republican from Utah, described the bill as a "free market method for increasing demand for housing".

The proposal would provide a three-year residential visa for foreign owners.

Prospective buyers would need to spend at least $250,000 on one property that would serve as their primary residence, and could make up the $500,000 requirement with additional rental properties.

To qualify for the visa, however, the purchases must be in cash, and the owners would have to reside at the primary residences for 180 days out of the year.

They would also have to apply for a separate work visa in order to be employed in the US, and would not be eligible for government aid programs.

"The bill does not limit people from being productive," Mr Schumer said. "It simply prevents them from coming here and taking jobs that otherwise would go to Americans."

The idea has also been supported by billionaire investor Warren Buffett.

"If you wanted to change your immigration policy so that you let 500,000 families in but they have to have a significant net worth and everything, you'd solve things very quickly," Mr Buffett told PBS's Charlie Rose in August.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15406776
I guess the 'free-market' needs a bit of govt help now and then
To overcome protectionist immigration policies? Umm, ok.
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-Frederick Bastiat

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