Doctor Strangelove
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FEOS wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Bunch of racists...just like this guy:

But Herman Cain actually is racist
Wat.
He hates Muslims. Now sure Islam isn't a race, but that's really only semantics. Either way he's isn't hiding the fact that he's a bigot.
Macbeth
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Jay wrote:

Spark wrote:

someone want to give me a plausible explanation for why the metrics measuring standard-of-life in the US such as median wage have been falling for over a decade?
Wages have been declining mostly due to loss of union manufacturing jobs and outsourcing. Also, we have absurdly high unemployment for the past four years.
Hard to think it's already been 4 years of this

It actually seems normal now.
FEOS
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:


But Herman Cain actually is racist
Wat.
He hates Muslims. Now sure Islam isn't a race, but that's really only semantics. Either way he's isn't hiding the fact that he's a bigot.
So are all the people on here who hate Christians racists, too? It's only semantics, of course.
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Spark
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Jay wrote:

Spark wrote:

someone want to give me a plausible explanation for why the metrics measuring standard-of-life in the US such as median wage have been falling for over a decade?
Wages have been declining mostly due to loss of union manufacturing jobs and outsourcing. Also, we have absurdly high unemployment for the past four years.
I really should have thought of that myself
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Kmar
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We want to keep jobs at home, have higher wages, but hate paying for higher goods and services. Underdeveloped countries can do it cheaper, so it may be noble and all to decry "stop outsourcing", but the consumer and their buying habits demands rock bottom prices. Yes there are some regulation issues that can help, but imo correcting that alone is not going to come close to making a more competitive global market. In underdeveloped countries those seemingly low wages (to us) goes much farther. Eventually those wages and jobs will go up as ours goes down.. that is not good news for first world jobs.

but you all knew that already
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KEN-JENNINGS
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have prices really gone down (or not risen comparably) due to outsourcing?
Kmar
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That's hard to tell. It's a natural conclusion though. Cheap labor is a powerful motivator.
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Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

have prices really gone down (or not risen comparably) due to outsourcing?
I'd say so, but it has more to do with the advanced factories being built overseas than the actual labor costs. Labor costs are a huge chunk of the picture, yes, but efficiency is key. Why build a factory here where you have to comply with OSHA and the EPA? Or deal with unions.

Last edited by Jay (2011-09-15 19:12:16)

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Kmar
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If it could be done cheaper locally it would.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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i'd honestly like to see comparison, not an 'i'd say so'.  But I'm too lazy to dig it up myself.

You build a factory here because you are investing in the US economy, creating jobs and opportunity for fellow countrymen.  Of course, as long as anyone can go build a factory somewhere else using cheap labor it's going to be hard to compete, especially when profit is largely the sole motivator.
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i'd honestly like to see comparison, not an 'i'd say so'.  But I'm too lazy to dig it up myself.

You build a factory here because you are investing in the US economy, creating jobs and opportunity for fellow countrymen.  Of course, as long as anyone can go build a factory somewhere else using cheap labor it's going to be hard to compete, especially when profit is largely the sole motivator.
Who gives a fuck about nationalism when you can live in a gated community sealed off from the rest of the country? Stock response: "If they want jobs and opportunity, let them create it for themselves".
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kmar
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Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i'd honestly like to see comparison, not an 'i'd say so'.  But I'm too lazy to dig it up myself.

You build a factory here because you are investing in the US economy, creating jobs and opportunity for fellow countrymen.  Of course, as long as anyone can go build a factory somewhere else using cheap labor it's going to be hard to compete, especially when profit is largely the sole motivator.
Who gives a fuck about nationalism when you can live in a gated community sealed off from the rest of the country? Stock response: "If they want jobs and opportunity, let them create it for themselves".
I suppose you should worry about those jobs if you intend on paying for the privilege to live in that gated community. Your stock response is exactly what China, India, and South America is doing.
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13rin
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/ … 7292.shtml

Pretty cool.. White house brews its own beer....
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
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13rin wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/16/earlyshow/main20107292.shtml

Pretty cool.. White house brews its own beer....
I would buy a bottle
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13rin
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Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/16/earlyshow/main20107292.shtml

Pretty cool.. White house brews its own beer....
I would buy a bottle
I think I would too.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Macbeth
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13rin wrote:

Jay wrote:

13rin wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/16/earlyshow/main20107292.shtml

Pretty cool.. White house brews its own beer....
I would buy a bottle
I think I would too.
After asking for it's brewing certificate
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Macbeth wrote:

13rin wrote:

Jay wrote:


I would buy a bottle
I think I would too.
After asking for it's brewing certificate
*its

And in DC you can house brew beer.
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Macbeth
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My phone auto corrects to it's. +1 for not getting the joke by the way.
cl4u53w1t2
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur … story.html

"The Vatican is brushing aside threats of a boycott by a number of German lawmakers when Pope Benedict XVI addresses the German parliament next week.

About 100 members of the Left Party and other opposition parties in parliament say they’ll boycott the German-born pope’s appearance at the Reichstag in Berlin on Thursday, at the start of the four-day trip.

Many of the lawmakers feel the appearance violates the principle of separation of church and state.

Other guests will fill the seats so the pope will have a full house in the 620-member parliament.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi told reporters Friday that Benedict has been invited to speak and “if someone has objections it doesn’t depend on us or the pope."

edit: i think he shouldn't be allowed to hold a speech in the parliament. he can do this wherever he wants in berlin, just not there

Last edited by cl4u53w1t2 (2011-09-16 12:36:10)

Jay
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Why not? He's a Head of State.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Jay wrote:

Why not? He's a Head of State.
^This. I guess the Germans who are objecting forgot that...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
cl4u53w1t2
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FEOS wrote:

Jay wrote:

Why not? He's a Head of State.
^This. I guess the Germans who are objecting forgot that...
only very few heads of state have spoken in front of the german parliament. it was only allowed because it was to be a gesture of reconciliation related to former enemies

http://www.bundestag.de/service/glossar … edner.html
Macbeth
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FEOS wrote:

Jay wrote:

Why not? He's a Head of State.
^This. I guess the Germans who are objecting forgot that...
Yeah the pope is more of a national leader than a religious leader anyway. o wait never mind
cl4u53w1t2
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Macbeth wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Jay wrote:

Why not? He's a Head of State.
^This. I guess the Germans who are objecting forgot that...
Yeah the pope is more of a national leader than a religious leader anyway. o wait never mind
plus, in terms of equality you would have to let every religious leader speak in front of the parliament

btw, that's the reason they didn't let the dalai lama speak there
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Its funny to see Geithner lecturing the europeans on coming to an agreement for the sake of the global economy.
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