1. Man-made climate change isn't a certainty...that's what they are arguing, not that "global warming isn't happening." There is a distinct difference.AussieReaper wrote:
"I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."FEOS wrote:
Utter bullshit, AR.
How many of the other GOP candidates agree with Huntsman on global warming and evolution? Do any?
Have you read my Rick Perry thread? AR you are an example of limited mindless, like it or not. You've been trying to pigeon hole me ever since we started this discussion. Frankly I think you should know better than that by now.AussieReaper wrote:
Like it or not the GOP is quickly becoming the anti-science party. You don't need to look into the religious affiliation of Rick Perry to see what he thinks about Creationism and Intelligent design, he'll preach that himself to you. So if you want to compare the Wright affiliation to Obama and electability, take a look at the other side of politics and their religious "affiliation".Kmar wrote:
As I said earlier in this thread, religious affiliation was not important enough to significantly sway voters. We're talking about what we knew before he was president, clearly. It's the idea of what having a religious affiliation that is out there that is important with regards to electability. What he has or has not done since winning the Presidency is completely irrelevant to the point. You're seemingly defending Obama and Wright just for the sake of doing so.AussieReaper wrote:
As I said earlier in the thread, name something religiously motivated that Obama has done which you disagree with as it is bad for America.
I can bet you all money that it is nothing in comparison to what the GOP front runners would be willing to do. Save for perhaps"call me crazy" Huntman.
Be willing to do? You sound like the omg Obama is a Muslim people now.
Maybe it's the inevitable outcome when the "omg Obama is a Muslim" rhetoric is so heavily pushed by certain groups that you wind up with a young Earth creationist President...
i don't care what anyone says, the fact that Our President happens to be a native born black Kenyan drives the extreme right in this country batshit.Kmar wrote:
Never mind the black man occupying our highest office.
give me a break lowing, the tea party is open to any and all, even though it's not a caucus, everyone knows the tea party is a big tent that accepts allFEOS wrote:
So are you arguing that the Tea Party is racist?
Try to keep up...I'm not lowing. I honestly was trying to figure out what you were trying to say.13urnzz wrote:
give me a break lowing, the tea party is open to any and all, even though it's not a caucus, everyone knows the tea party is a big tent that accepts allFEOS wrote:
So are you arguing that the Tea Party is racist?
white, 45+, right of republican, wholesale bought by the Koch Brothers © "i n d e p e n d e n t" votes.
13urnzz wrote:
i don't care what anyone says, the fact that Our President happens to be a native born black Kenyan drives the extreme right in this country batshit.Kmar wrote:
Never mind the black man occupying our highest office.
it's like teabaggers believe the right owns the White House, and gave it that name for a reason.
because it's white
Let's get real people, racialism in America is a moot point. you either aren't, or a teabagger.
Relevant parts highlighted. do you think i'd be so dumb as to argue the positions of any "extreme" group as described by you? In fact, the very use of the word extreme illustrates my point.Kmar wrote:
certain parts of the media love to paint Americans as largely intolerant (as a whole) .
never.Jay wrote:
Since when does one person define the demographics of a group?
It doesn't exist. Not for the tea party anyway, nor for either of the two major political parties. Does Olympia Snow represent the Republican Party as a whole even though she has an (R) next to her name?13urnzz wrote:
never.Jay wrote:
Since when does one person define the demographics of a group?
some forum posters act like one single representative doesn't exist.
Yeah. Except the Tea Party started before Obama was elected. Like back when Bush was still in office. As a response to his "out of control" spending.
this is real, my nephew took a picture of a real teabagger. he's a nuts on your chin, right of the right rail honest to goodness voted for Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Jason Chaffets (TeaBagger-Utah party) God fearing, Sarah Palin ogling, John Birch Society is too left for me teabagger.
he believes all the black people in Utah wear a Jazz jersey to work, is still pissed at Lincoln, and is fairly representative of the grass roots movement to get a black American out of the highest elective executive office.
Some forum posters understand statistics and realize one single representative doesn't mean shit.13urnzz wrote:
some forum posters act like one single representative doesn't exist.
And it was a libertarian movement to boot. Good job MSM painting them all as ultra right wing Christian zealots hell bent on installing a theocracy and reinstituting slavery.FEOS wrote:
Yeah. Except the Tea Party started before Obama was elected. Like back when Bush was still in office. As a response to his "out of control" spending.
this is real, my nephew took a picture of a real teabagger. he's a nuts on your chin, right of the right rail honest to goodness voted for Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Jason Chaffets (TeaBagger-Utah party) God fearing, Sarah Palin ogling, John Birch Society is too left for me teabagger.
he believes all the black people in Utah wear a Jazz jersey to work, is still pissed at Lincoln, and is fairly representative of the grass roots movement to get a black American out of the highest elective executive office.
So...
g1cJay wrote:
I try my damndest not to paint entire groups with the same brush. Not only is it ignorant, but it causes a helluva lot of unnecessary problems.
the Republican Party that i grew up with and supported for thirty years is gone. The Republicans introduced the moral majority, brought religion to the right when carter rebuffed them.Jay wrote:
And it was a libertarian movement to boot. Good job MSM painting them all as ultra right wing Christian zealots hell bent on installing a theocracy and reinstituting slavery.
http://www.deneenborelli.com/Deneen Borelli wrote:
There isn't one main group or one main leader of the tea parties. There are thousands of different groups composed of thousands of individuals, so it clearly is an independent movement, which means you are going to have independent agendas across the board. The overall concern of Tea Party members is fiscal responsibility and government spending too much. People want lower taxes because when you have less taxes you have more money in your pocket to do what you need to do for yourself and your family. We want less spending and accountability. What's not good for the country is a government spending too much money that we clearly don't have, which means we are in debt and obligated to other countries to pay for that debt. Less interaction for government on individuals means more freedom and choices for individuals.
Its that every US govt seems compelled to start a war.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
i do find it fascinating that all these international citizens have knowledge of and take interest in American government, right down to the party level. I have a degree in international relations and while we studied massive individual political systems never did we get down to the detail you see people here going to. Is the US just that ?
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But Herman Cain actually is racistFEOS wrote:
Bunch of racists...just like this guy:
Wages have been declining mostly due to loss of union manufacturing jobs and outsourcing. Also, we have absurdly high unemployment for the past four years.Spark wrote:
someone want to give me a plausible explanation for why the metrics measuring standard-of-life in the US such as median wage have been falling for over a decade?
Wat.Doctor Strangelove wrote:
But Herman Cain actually is racistFEOS wrote:
Bunch of racists...just like this guy:
