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Jay wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jay wrote:

True, but European history is still about as relevant as Asian or African or the history of Oceania to us as a nation. i.e. it's elective worthy, not focus worthy.

Obsessing about the minutae of the founding fathers is somewhat irrelevant too.

It would be like the British studying solely what Queen Elizabeth I said and did to the exclusion of what went before and what was happening in parallel in other countries.

We don't obsess over the minutae. The American History taught in schools is rather broad. I don't remember learning anything about the FF's personal lives in school, just enough to recognize their names. I do happen to live in the northeastern US, so we did take class trips to Boston and Philadelphia which included seeing the old Revolutionary War sites. So what? You didn't learn British-centric history in grade school? I'll bet you did.

australian history fucking sucks.

US history is pretty interesting, best eras are american revolution, civil war, american imperialism (spanish american war, manifest destiny and shit), and roaring 20s.

I did more world history in high school than US history. strange that I went to an American international school.

FEOS wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

I did more world history in high school than US history. strange that I went to an American international school.

Yeah. Strange...innit.

No our curriculum was American based. I say international school since that's what it is classified (me living in taiwan and all studying american style).

We did APs and shit and got a US certified High School diploma.

Kmar wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Wright wasn't a turnoff for Obama, that is. At least not a significant one. Wright's name was attached to Obama, and the GOP certainly tried to use the Pastor against him. Obama spent 20 years listening to his preaching and described him as his own spiritual adviser. Were you in a coma in 2008?

As I said earlier in the thread, name something religiously motivated that Obama has done which you disagree with as it is bad for America.

I can bet you all money that it is nothing in comparison to what the GOP front runners would be willing to do. Save for perhaps"call me crazy" Huntman.

As I said earlier in this thread, religious affiliation was not important enough to significantly sway voters. We're talking about what we knew before he was president, clearly. It's the idea of what having a religious affiliation that is out there that is important with regards to electability. What he has or has not done since winning the Presidency is completely irrelevant to the point. You're seemingly defending Obama and Wright just for the sake of doing so.

Be willing to do? You sound like the omg Obama is a Muslim people now.

Like it or not the GOP is quickly becoming the anti-science party. You don't need to look into the religious affiliation of Rick Perry to see what he thinks about Creationism and Intelligent design, he'll preach that himself to you. So if you want to compare the Wright affiliation to Obama and electability, take a look at the other side of politics and their religious "affiliation".

Maybe it's the inevitable outcome when the "omg Obama is a Muslim" rhetoric is so heavily pushed by certain groups that you wind up with a young Earth creationist President...

FEOS wrote:

Utter bullshit, AR.

"I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

How many of the other GOP candidates agree with Huntsman on global warming and evolution? Do any?

Cybargs wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Utter bullshit, AR.

"I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

How many of the other GOP candidates agree with Huntsman on global warming and evolution? Do any?

I'm sure Ron Paul does.

I'm sure he doesn't.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/ … 8876.shtml

i do find it fascinating that all these international citizens have knowledge of and take interest in American government, right down to the party level.  I have a degree in international relations and while we studied massive individual political systems never did we get down to the detail you see people here going to.  Is the US just that ?

Jay wrote:

Why is that even relevant? It's not like he can force schools to teach creationism.

Oh well that's a relief?

What do you think is likely to happen when scientific research no longer has the support of a government because it goes against the teachings of the Bible and intelligent design? You might as well be governed by Theocracy.

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

Why is that even relevant? It's not like he can force schools to teach creationism.

Oh well that's a relief?

What do you think is likely to happen when scientific research no longer has the support of a government because it goes against the teachings of the Bible and intelligent design? You might as well be governed by Theocracy.

Presidents don't make decisions on such matters. Scientific research is usually funded through universities anyway.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i do find it fascinating that all these international citizens have knowledge of and take interest in American government, right down to the party level.  I have a degree in international relations and while we studied massive individual political systems never did we get down to the detail you see people here going to.  Is the US just that ?

yeah, that does kind of puzzle me.

do you guys spend years learning about US gov't or just learn about it during your own time? some of non-americans know more about our government then a small piece of US citizens.

13/f/taiwan wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

i do find it fascinating that all these international citizens have knowledge of and take interest in American government, right down to the party level.  I have a degree in international relations and while we studied massive individual political systems never did we get down to the detail you see people here going to.  Is the US just that ?

yeah, that does kind of puzzle me.

do you guys spend years learning about US gov't or just learn about it during your own time? some of non-americans know more about our government then a small piece of US citizens.

He reads HuffPo and watches the daily show why else do you think an aussie sounds like a democrat in every thread?

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Oh well that's a relief?

What do you think is likely to happen when scientific research no longer has the support of a government because it goes against the teachings of the Bible and intelligent design? You might as well be governed by Theocracy.

Funding for scientific research is enshrined in our constitution.

Are vacinations?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard … pv-vaccine

"The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35m doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record."

Ignoring scientific studies is more than stupid, it's dangerous.

Yep, but all too common. The argument against vaccines is normally made by lefty hippies and new agey yuppies. Bachmann is just as retarded as those groups. You're surprised?