Shocking
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Wars started by Obama - 0
Then what is Libya? Military interventions don't matter?

Dilbert_X wrote:

Torture Camps opened by Obama - 0
Well he hasn't closed Gitmo either has he?

Dilbert_X wrote:

Financial collapses triggered by Obama - 0
Was one "triggered" by Bush then? No. By the way people are talking about a double dip now and that's happening under O's watch.

Dilbert_X wrote:

AQ attacks on America on Obama's watch - 0
1 on Bush's watch, and that wasn't something he could've helped. Any previous attacks paled in comparison to 9/11, it brought worldwide attention to terrorism.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Number of opportunities to kill Bin Laden missed - 0
The whole effort to track down Bin Laden started under the Bush administration, Obama just took over once the plan succeeded.

Look, I'm not a fan of Bush, most of the stuff he's done I don't like, but Obama hasn't been all that great either. Besides, all the points you raise here are... idiotic at best. If you want to give valid critique you might want to compare the two in depth instead of throwing out such bland remarks (loel trollbert)

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My arguments are as valid as those who blame Obama for everything which happened since the day he became President.
"zomg the economy isn't awsm, its Obama's fault"
He certainly hasn't done worse than Bush, despite taking on a whole pile of shit.
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Cybargs
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It's not that, more like he's prolonging the crisis with his policies and bills he signed ala roosevelt.
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i guess the dog kicks the cat . . .
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hmm, steve jobs resigned from apple, maybe now they will actually stop being the bane of humanity.
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13rin wrote:

Hmmm... Steve Jobs resigned from apple.  I wonder if he's terminal.
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Cybargs wrote:

It's not that, more like he's prolonging the crisis with his policies and bills he signed ala roosevelt.
Its hard to prove that though, the crisis could have been deeper and longer, higher unemployment, more bankrupt banks, or not.
Doing nothing was not an option, whatever the Tea Party likes to say.
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

No, you apply the same critical thought to each situation.

If, according to you, wars are wars and involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is exactly the same as a bystander role in Libya, but deficits aren't all the same - it does matter that Obama's deficit is larger than Bush's - even though the circumstances are very different - then clearly you're not applying critical thinking.
But we aren't in a bystander role in Libya.

So I guess that shoots your logic right in the ass.

Your move.
How many thousand ground troops does the the US have in Libya?
Is it 100,000?

Are any US troops actually fighting in Libya?
War =/= ground troops
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

It's not that, more like he's prolonging the crisis with his policies and bills he signed ala roosevelt.
Its hard to prove that though, the crisis could have been deeper and longer, higher unemployment, more bankrupt banks, or not.
Doing nothing was not an option, whatever the Tea Party likes to say.
Um...  You're conveniently forgetting that the Bamster had a super majority.  They could and did whatever they wanted.  Remember the huge stimulus bill, and healthcare?  I do. They both failed miserably and one hasn't even started yet.  What did the bamster want to do after his stimulus failed?  Spend more!  Asinine idea at best, but gross incompetence would be more accurate of a description.

Doing nothing was definitely an option.  If jr. high memories serves me correctly it's called Laissez-faire.
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Who says they failed? How could one fail before it begins?
Its impossible to say if they did or didn't, or will or won't.
We just don't know how serious the collapse could have been, or if there would have been no difference if they hadn't been implemented.
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FEOS wrote:

War =/= ground troops
I'm talking about the magnitude of the involvement so your point is moot.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Who says they failed? How could one fail before it begins?
Its impossible to say if they did or didn't, or will or won't.
We just don't know how serious the collapse could have been, or if there would have been no difference if they hadn't been implemented.
Well, the US isn't on the road to recovery and the credit rating has been downgraded.  'Universal Healthcare' has all ready failed seeing as looms over the economy, businesses not wanting to hire because of it.  Furthermore, look at the amount of 'waivers' Obama has granted to his cronies' companies and unions.

More than one person with a degree in economics has come out and said the stimulus is basically what pushed the US over the cliff.

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DC earthquake damage.


Obama claims the rich didn't suffer their fair share of earthquake damage.


Obama says DC unprepared for earthquake due to Bush tax cuts.


Quake caused John Kerry to drop a drink on his foot. Inquiring about a Purple Heart.


and on facebook : UPDATE: The east coast earthquake apparently was caused by an unknown fault line running under D.C. and through Virginia. It is now being called Obama's Fault, though Obama will say it's really Bush's Fault. Other theories are that it was the founding fathers rolling over in their graves or that what we all believed to be an earthquake was actually the effects of a 14.6 trillion dollar check bouncing in Washington.
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lowing wrote:


DC earthquake damage.


Obama claims the rich didn't suffer their fair share of earthquake damage.


Obama says DC unprepared for earthquake due to Bush tax cuts.


Quake caused John Kerry to drop a drink on his foot. Inquiring about a Purple Heart.


and on facebook : UPDATE: The east coast earthquake apparently was caused by an unknown fault line running under D.C. and through Virginia. It is now being called Obama's Fault, though Obama will say it's really Bush's Fault. Other theories are that it was the founding fathers rolling over in their graves or that what we all believed to be an earthquake was actually the effects of a 14.6 trillion dollar check bouncing in Washington.
Chair down. CHAIR DOWN!!!!
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EPA to fine Virginia for unauthorized seismic activity
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tuckergustav wrote:

lowing wrote:


DC earthquake damage.


Obama claims the rich didn't suffer their fair share of earthquake damage.


Obama says DC unprepared for earthquake due to Bush tax cuts.


Quake caused John Kerry to drop a drink on his foot. Inquiring about a Purple Heart.


and on facebook : UPDATE: The east coast earthquake apparently was caused by an unknown fault line running under D.C. and through Virginia. It is now being called Obama's Fault, though Obama will say it's really Bush's Fault. Other theories are that it was the founding fathers rolling over in their graves or that what we all believed to be an earthquake was actually the effects of a 14.6 trillion dollar check bouncing in Washington.
Chair down. CHAIR DOWN!!!!
gotta admit, the DC earthquake damage made me laugh pretty hard.
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lowing wrote:


DC earthquake damage.


Obama claims the rich didn't suffer their fair share of earthquake damage.


Obama says DC unprepared for earthquake due to Bush tax cuts.


Quake caused John Kerry to drop a drink on his foot. Inquiring about a Purple Heart.


and on facebook : UPDATE: The east coast earthquake apparently was caused by an unknown fault line running under D.C. and through Virginia. It is now being called Obama's Fault, though Obama will say it's really Bush's Fault. Other theories are that it was the founding fathers rolling over in their graves or that what we all believed to be an earthquake was actually the effects of a 14.6 trillion dollar check bouncing in Washington.
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

War =/= ground troops
I'm talking about the magnitude of the involvement so your point is moot.
You're claiming that magnitude of involvement somehow determines whether it is a war or not. That's so absurd as to barely warrant response.

As Daffy if he thinks NATO was at war with him. Ask the rebels if they think NATO was at war with Daffy. I'm pretty sure the two sides will agree on that, at least. And disagree with you.

Just because coalition ground troops weren't involved (much) doesn't mean there wasn't warfare going on.
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lowing wrote:


DC earthquake damage.


Obama claims the rich didn't suffer their fair share of earthquake damage.


Obama says DC unprepared for earthquake due to Bush tax cuts.


Quake caused John Kerry to drop a drink on his foot. Inquiring about a Purple Heart.


and on facebook : UPDATE: The east coast earthquake apparently was caused by an unknown fault line running under D.C. and through Virginia. It is now being called Obama's Fault, though Obama will say it's really Bush's Fault. Other theories are that it was the founding fathers rolling over in their graves or that what we all believed to be an earthquake was actually the effects of a 14.6 trillion dollar check bouncing in Washington.
Republican Congress manages to get Obama impeached for allowing an earthquake on his watch.

President Palin nukes Holland in retaliation.
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Dilbert_X
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FEOS wrote:

You're claiming that magnitude of involvement somehow determines whether it is a war or not.
No I'm not, I'm saying the magnitude has some bearing when comparing Bush and Obama's Presidencies.
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