Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Off the top of my head
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair
You went back 125 years in order to prove a point? Lol.

People died during the Iranian crackdown on protestors. Do you not remember all the youtube videos and the outrage? For the Iranian government to then say 'don't hurt the protestors' is irony at its best. Quit with the dilbert impression.
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He mentioned rewriting history and history clicked into my mind. Eat a cock.

How bad the Iranian government cracked down on the protesters wasn't my point. I don't give a shit. O and again eat a cock.
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Macbeth wrote:

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13urnzz wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I'm talking about how people find it 'ironic' that Iran is mouthing off during the U.K. riots but think it's SOP for their governments to sling shit during any other international event.

'oh how ironic, they are acting like us'
Last time I checked, the US didn't violently disperse protest crowds and then tell other countries not to do the same thing.
nah, never happened.
Guess that's his point. back then was a lot different than now I guess with proper riot equipment.
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I lol'd at the Iranian comment that the government should acquiesce to the "protesters" demands. Think the "protesters" are fulfilling their demands quite happily on their own, tbh.
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Uzique wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Sure, we'll see.
here you go dilbert. tip on the way out, please.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/0 … olice-ipcc

seems the person that doesn't judge someone because a) they're black b) they have tattoos and c) they deal drugs is the one that is right.

what a surprise!

the funny thing is that if this exact same story happened in america you would have a 5 page argument with a yankie about police brutality.

fuck you, dilbert.
Not really, he was a drug dealer carrying an illegal gun, he should have got twenty years just for those two.
I don't care too much if a criminal carrying a loaded gun in public got shot, he made the choice and paid the consequence.

Where I've commented on other Police brutality, eg Menendez or the guy whose dog was shot over a small bag of cannabis, its been pretty clear the Police were in the wrong.

I'm sure you're upset that your cocaine supply is going to be a little disrupted for the next few weeks. QQ.

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Uzique
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yeah resort to personal attacks because racist contrarian dilbert was proven wrong...

if this happens in america -> the law is the law, innocent until proven guilty, police brutality, this is a consequence of lax gun laws, etc.

happens in britain -> fuck the law, he's black and deals coke, he should be culled as vermin, hurrah to the trigger happy police

why does the law apply differently in different situations? as i said there is a way to deal with an armed person that doesn't involve shooting them when they pose no threat.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I don't care too much if a criminal carrying a loaded gun in public got shot, he made the choice and paid the consequence.
.
from anti-american borefest dilbert to flag-waving Lowing in one post... oh how the contortionist squirms when the facts turn against him
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How do you know he posed no threat, carrying a loaded gun in public?

lol wiki has been hijacked again.

Duggan's fiancee Semone Wilson and mother of part of his brood suggested police, faced by Duggan pointing a gun at them, should have shot him in the hand to disarm him. Yeah right, cut off the thug's goolies that is what they should do !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan

Armed drug dealers should be culled IMO. (lowing is the guy who gets off on suspected burglars being shot in the back)

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yeah great lets cite the changing wikipedia as evidence that something is amiss... you do realise this country is full of angry white moronic racists right now, yeah? i'm sure sentiments at a time like this are really convincing. just stick to the ipcc report, please. they said nothing at all to incriminate mark duggan in a situation that warranted being shot and killed. his status as being 'armed' means nothing in the eyes of the law other than a possession of an illegal firearm charge. dealing cocaine is a drug charge. neither of these deserve the death penalty. there is no evidence whatsoever that a man with a fiancee and two kids would have committed a sure-fire suicide by pulling a gun on police. the fact is that for the last 3 pages you've assumed he got wrapped up in a gunfight because you posted pictures of a black man with tattoos and then judged from there. 'innocent until proven guilty'. you're suddenly forgetting all of your lovely anti-american skepticism...
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It seems the country is pretty full of violent black criminals too.

Why was he carrying a loaded illegal gun if he was such a homebody?
He was well known for carrying a gun and dealing cocaine, thats pretty incriminating. Its an invitation to be shot, by other gangsters let alone the fuzz.

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Uzique wrote:

yeah great lets cite the changing wikipedia as evidence that something is amiss... you do realise this country is full of angry white moronic racists right now, yeah? i'm sure sentiments at a time like this are really convincing. just stick to the ipcc report, please. they said nothing at all to incriminate mark duggan in a situation that warranted being shot and killed. his status as being 'armed' means nothing in the eyes of the law other than a possession of an illegal firearm charge. dealing cocaine is a drug charge. neither of these deserve the death penalty. there is no evidence whatsoever that a man with a fiancee and two kids would have committed a sure-fire suicide by pulling a gun on police. the fact is that for the last 3 pages you've assumed he got wrapped up in a gunfight because you posted pictures of a black man with tattoos and then judged from there. 'innocent until proven guilty'. you're suddenly forgetting all of your lovely anti-american skepticism...
Sounds like you are angry enough to do something about it. I know, how about you take to the streets, run over some people, burn down some businesses, loot some of the more popular things you want and antagonize the police by throwing rocks and shit at them. All in the name of your views against violence.

Gotta love angry young protesters taking advantage of any situation they can in order to get that new Ipad and new clothes for free. Even pretending they give a fuck about some drug dealer shot by police.

My favorite part is Uzi, after all that is happening, is only outraged by the police action against a drug dealer pointing a gun at them. Everything else is perfectly understandable apparently.
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where am i defending the rioting anywhere? you fucking dolt.

if im all about upholding legal principles, why would i be condoning burning down businesses and vehicles?

read a book lowing

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Uzique
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Dilbert_X wrote:

It seems the country is pretty full of violent black criminals too.

Why was he carrying a loaded illegal gun if he was such a homebody?
He was well known for carrying a gun and dealing cocaine, thats pretty incriminating. Its an invitation to be shot, by other gangsters let alone the fuzz.
drug dealers carry weapons for defense, not offense. their business is making money, not getting life sentences.

carrying a gun does not mandate a death sentence, im sorry. there are laws for illegal possession of a firearm. the tariff does not extend to 'be killed unlawfully'. the ipcc report thus far seems pretty mute and damning of the police's actions... a definite tone of a fuck-up, here. if the investigators themselves are pretty quiet, why are you so loud?
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I'm simply saying I don't give a shit the guy was shot.

Why would a drug dealer need a gun for defence? Surely he'd had a lot of friends and people would like him on account of the public service he's carrying out.

Or did he need to protect himself from his fellow drug-dealers who also had guns? Its a circular argument you can't win.

if the investigators themselves are pretty quiet, why are you so loud
The IPCC are invariably quiet, besides being as corrupt as the PCA, its not a surprise.

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Uzique wrote:

where am i defending the rioting anywhere? you fucking dolt.

if im all about upholding legal principles, why would i be condoning burning down businesses and vehicles?

read a book lowing
well, you could start by expressing more outrage over the violence ( protesting violence ) than you do over the cops having the nerve to actually defend themselves against a gun wielding known drug dealer. Maybe you could be outraged over the murder of 3 people who wasn't a drug dealer or carrying guns, in the name of peace. How about a little outrage over the burned out businesses and theft? Nehhhh, reserve your anger for the dead drug dealer. What was he, your uncle, brother, what? Or are you still trying to come to grips with the death of bin laden?

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Shocking wrote:

Fantastic DST chats page, 10/10.
great post, would read again
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Macbeth wrote:

13urnzz wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Last time I checked, the US didn't violently disperse protest crowds and then tell other countries not to do the same thing.
nah, never happened.
Nothing to see here folks.
Of course, a response from forty years ago that wasn't government policy (Kent State) and a couple from two hundred years ago (NYC draft riots/Haymarket riots) make the US the same as countries that regularly violently suppress any protests?

Of course.

Get some perspective, ffs.
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Sorry theres a few things here.

Police followed the family chap in question and decided they needed firearms officers to bring him in which isn't exactly a common occurrence in the UK.

He had in his position a loaded firearm which is illegal in the UK.

To have been killed illegaly there would have to be a convincing argument that the family man with the loaded gun did not prove a threat to life at the time of his arrest.

It doesn't matter whether he got a shot off 1st or not, if he was known to be armed and did not act absolutely perfectly to police requests then he deserved to be shot.
Jay
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I don't like this woman's politics, but holy shit, what a bad picture.

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She looks like a corpse.
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Here's some real Hope... not dope

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ … story.html

It's nice to see how mainstream media outlets are finally giving Ron Paul more attention. Last election he was basically ignored, but it seems that people can no longer cover their ears to the sensible stances he has on issues. People might not agree with everything he says but I think almost anyone can find things they agree with him on. Conservatives ought to like his less-spending mantra and surely liberals should like his anti-drug war mantra.
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When one of those zombies is devouring your still-beating heart, it will be those eyes staring through you.

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