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VYWang wrote:

No you're missing my point. What would happen in science if no one had faith in the results? It wouldn't be believed. Now, say that the evidence was OVERWHELMING, but still no one had faith in it. It still wouldn't be believed. This actually happened when a person invented bikes that shifted gears. Most, if not all, professional bikers refused to believe that it was better dispite the fact that the owner beat many, many of these professional bikers. They just didn't have faith in the results. Or the case with weight lifter's shoes. For the longest time they had a peice of wood in the sole for support, in 2008 (I believe) Nike had invented a better pair, one that was scientifically proven through tests, to provide better support, cushioning, etc. Yet weight lifters still switched back to the wooden shoes after trying out the scientifically superior one. They just didn't have faith in the results.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

There's two sides of the coin. The faithful can't prove that he exists, and disbelievers cannot prove that he or something like him cannot.

DefCon-17 wrote:

The whole "prove me wrong" argument has to be the dumbest/weakest ever.

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Studies show there was a ton of other prophets wandering aroud too preaching different stuff and trying to get folks to jointheir clubs but apparently this guy was a genuine salesman since he got the big crowd.

VYWang wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

VYWang wrote:

Hey guys, it's HaiBai's friend. I finally remembered that I had an account. Lol oops.

To address the evolution point:
The theory of evolution is incomplete. That's why people are still arguing about the types of evolution. A slow gradual change vs. period of stability then rapid change (the names elude me at the moment). You can believe one or the other if you believe in evolution, but this belief is simply based on faith. You have faith in the evidence that it's correct. Science definitely still has roots in faith. Those ties might be weaker, but people always have faith in SOMETHING. No matter how many times you test a hypothesis and theory, you still have faith in the results. If not, then there is no point in testing it. Same deal with religion, except you need more faith.

The theory is not incomplete.

Take a look at the breeds of dogs and tell me they didn't evolve from wolves. Go on.

The bulldog was especially bred to look the way it does. That's evolution through selective breeding. Same has happened through cows, wheat, cats every other domestic animal and every other foodstock man has cultivated. We have used the process of evolution to change flora and fauna to suite as better.

We don't need faith in the results. We don't need faith in the theory of evolution. We have evidence it works. We have millions of years of evolutionary science to back this up. There is no faith required in anything at all to do with evolution because the evidence is so overwhelming.

You need faith in God, the Church and religion, because there is no evidence. If there was, you wouldn't need faith.

No you're missing my point. What would happen in science if no one had faith in the results? It wouldn't be believed. Now, say that the evidence was OVERWHELMING, but still no one had faith in it. It still wouldn't be believed. This actually happened when a person invented bikes that shifted gears. Most, if not all, professional bikers refused to believe that it was better dispite the fact that the owner beat many, many of these professional bikers. They just didn't have faith in the results. Or the case with weight lifter's shoes. For the longest time they had a peice of wood in the sole for support, in 2008 (I believe) Nike had invented a better pair, one that was scientifically proven through tests, to provide better support, cushioning, etc. Yet weight lifters still switched back to the wooden shoes after trying out the scientifically superior one. They just didn't have faith in the results.