http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 … e_usa.htmlHurricane2k9 wrote:
The FBI (et al) can dig up almost anything on you if they really want to, and they do when you apply for top secret clearances (and especially for clearances like Yankee White).
Surely the Federal Election Commission would have found out if Obama was not a natural born citizen.
This is America, where the pundits start debating whether the winner of an election will be reelected an hour after the results come in.DrunkFace wrote:
There's still like 18 months(?) till an election, why is this shit even happening?
gubmint corruption blablabla <fill in the blank>Hurricane2k9 wrote:
The FBI (et al) can dig up almost anything on you if they really want to, and they do when you apply for top secret clearances (and especially for clearances like Yankee White).
Surely the Federal Election Commission would have found out if Obama was not a natural born citizen.
You can have them, the ginger one is more fun.rdx-fx wrote:
No more Bushes, no more Clintons, no more Kennedys, no more familial dynasties - unless England wants to send us Kate 'n that dude she's marrying.
Source"Look at Libya. Look at this mess," an exasperated Trump said.
"We go in, we don't go in, he shouldn't be removed, we don't want to remove him, we don't want to touch him, but he should be removed. Nobody knows what they're doing on Gaddafi.
"I'd do one thing. Either I'd go in and take the oil or I don't go in at all," he said.
"In the old days, when you have a war and you win, that nation is yours."
It's pretty clear he is detatched from reality.RTHKI wrote:
dont really understand your comment, he was pretty clear in what he said.
I know the president was born here and all but that's really stupid reasoning. That's pretty much like saying a guy could remain a police officer since he made it through the interviews and the academy even though he lied about being a convicted felon.Stimey wrote:
Thats stupid. He shouldn't be impeached. They let him run and he ran fair and square, meaning he is now President.
but see the rules are quite clear there and they didn't do the necessary research before admitting him.Macbeth wrote:
I know the president was born here and all but that's really stupid reasoning. That's pretty much like saying a guy could remain a police officer since he made it through the interviews and the academy even though he lied about being a convicted felon.Stimey wrote:
Thats stupid. He shouldn't be impeached. They let him run and he ran fair and square, meaning he is now President.
Out constitution states that only people born on US soil can become president. It's a law as old as the country.Stimey wrote:
but see the rules are quite clear there and they didn't do the necessary research before admitting him.Macbeth wrote:
I know the president was born here and all but that's really stupid reasoning. That's pretty much like saying a guy could remain a police officer since he made it through the interviews and the academy even though he lied about being a convicted felon.Stimey wrote:
Thats stupid. He shouldn't be impeached. They let him run and he ran fair and square, meaning he is now President.
if beforehand the rules did not specify that a felon was unable to join the police force, they can't legally deny him.
But the rules do specify he has to be a U.S. citizen as does the rules for becoming a police officer say you can't be a convicted felon. The fact that you didn't disclose you weren't a citizen or were a felon just means you got the job through deception.Stimey wrote:
but see the rules are quite clear there and they didn't do the necessary research before admitting him.Macbeth wrote:
I know the president was born here and all but that's really stupid reasoning. That's pretty much like saying a guy could remain a police officer since he made it through the interviews and the academy even though he lied about being a convicted felon.Stimey wrote:
Thats stupid. He shouldn't be impeached. They let him run and he ran fair and square, meaning he is now President.
if beforehand the rules did not specify that a felon was unable to join the police force, they can't legally deny him.
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Well I'm saying I don't agree with that. Just because they didn't dig up enough information on him BEFORE they let him into office doesn't mean that they can just throw him out midterm and be like "Oh actually we didn't do our research back in Nov 08 so that means that the last 2 and a half years of you doing stuff to the worlds most powerful nation doesn't actually count."Jay wrote:
Out constitution states that only people born on US soil can become president. It's a law as old as the country.Stimey wrote:
but see the rules are quite clear there and they didn't do the necessary research before admitting him.Macbeth wrote:
I know the president was born here and all but that's really stupid reasoning. That's pretty much like saying a guy could remain a police officer since he made it through the interviews and the academy even though he lied about being a convicted felon.
if beforehand the rules did not specify that a felon was unable to join the police force, they can't legally deny him.
If it was found out after he became president that he was born elsewhere, it would invalidate his presidency and Congress would be forced to impeach him. Do I believe Obama was born elsewhere? No. But in this case shifty was correct and you were wrong. Kindly learn more about America before creating posts regarding it. Thanks.
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"Oh well hello I would like to apply to be a doctor at your hospital."Macbeth wrote:
Your post here
yep. If you join the Army and lie about something on your form, and it's later found out you lied, the Army has the full right to dishonorably discharge you. Same with the federal government IIRC (or at least for security clearance jobs).Macbeth wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that he still lied and broke the law...
